Craig Wright is missing, over charge to face probe for alleged perjury - page 2.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on July 20, 2024, 03:38:21 AM

Quote from: DaveF on July 19, 2024, 08:34:18 AM

Without locking him up there is no way to really stop someone from leaving.

We could have asked the court to seize his passport, but the judge surprised us with a ruling from the bench. He was gone from the country a bit to fast to react. There is no guarantee we would have been granted the passport seizure, but I think there would have been reasonable odds of it.

and not that seizing his passport would have made it impossible to run, but it would have made it harder. Oh well.

Seizing a passport from somebody like CSW might not be that simple anyway. I'd say he has Australian and UK passports at least, possibly Antiguan thru Calvin Ayre, and I think his wife is Singaporean?, so he could possibly have one of these as well. He's probably been preparing for this eventuality for a while. If he appeals would he be required to actually appear at court? I think in the last case he only appeared on days when he was being sworn in or giving evidence.

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Quote from: DaveF on July 20, 2024, 02:13:18 PM

Harder? Nah, more expensive but not harder. Not for anyone with any kind of money.
Too many ports / docks with no security and too many people with private jets that don't ask questions.

A distinction would be that he'd have frustrated further travel-- could he get out and hunker down? Sure. It would also mean that he'd be vulnerable to an immediate arrest when we did track him down. As is, he's just lawfully jetting around, which is less preferable.

Aside, the house he was renting in the UK is now listed again: https://search.savills.com/gg/en/property-detail/gbcorecbs170012l

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 20, 2024, 03:25:53 PM

I am happy that finally; we can all rest,

Yeah not quite. He's claiming he will appeal in a couple weeks and he's still "at large" and not at all sending signs that he intends to stop.

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Quote from: Accardo on July 18, 2024, 11:59:37 AM

Question about Craig Wright's place as Bitcoin founder can now be dismissed in the forum, the UK law made it clear that he lied under oath. A London high court Judge “James Mellon" has decided to push Wright's case to
the British Crown Prosecution Service “CPS" after a deep look into the overwhelming evidence of Criag's forgery and lies during the Crypto Open Patent Alliance (COPA) trial; a lawsuit for Wright to stop suing Bitcoin developers.

Because he's bound to face serious legal consequences for his lies and forgery, Wright's whereabout is unknown and he's fled from his previous residence in Wimbledon, London. He could face Arrest or extradition, depending on his location.

Well, I am not surprised because this is a something I feel Is long overdue, craig wright is not just a lier, a forger, an impersonator, but he is also a thief, an unrepentant one for that matter.
So I am particularly not surprised the the dude is already on the run, this is to show us all that no matter how long it might take, the law will always take its course.

I am happy that finally; we can all rest, because to be honest, that man was already a nuisance in the bitcoin community, bitcoin miners can now do their job with peace of mind.
Another Satoshi nakamoto impersonator is down, who's next on the line in the Satoshi nakamoto impersonating game? 😁

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Quote from: Lucius on July 19, 2024, 04:38:54 AM

I honestly don't care if he runs away and hides for the rest of his life

While I understand your point, I think that you are not right.
CSW must now pay damages for those who have lost a lot for standing up for the truth.
CSW must now face the justice for all his lies and forgeries.
Then he can go to... wherever he wants to hide.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on July 20, 2024, 03:38:21 AM

Quote from: DaveF on July 19, 2024, 08:34:18 AM

Without locking him up there is no way to really stop someone from leaving.

We could have asked the court to seize his passport, but the judge surprised us with a ruling from the bench. He was gone from the country a bit to fast to react. There is no guarantee we would have been granted the passport seizure, but I think there would have been reasonable odds of it.

and not that seizing his passport would have made it impossible to run, but it would have made it harder. Oh well.

Harder? Nah, more expensive but not harder. Not for anyone with any kind of money.
Too many ports / docks with no security and too many people with private jets that don't ask questions.

It's just the way it is. Anyone who this otherwise is just making themselves feel better.

It's like the people here in the US that think "securing the border" will even slow down illegal drugs coming into the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aPLXdtbLZ0

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Quote from: DaveF on July 19, 2024, 08:34:18 AM

Without locking him up there is no way to really stop someone from leaving.

We could have asked the court to seize his passport, but the judge surprised us with a ruling from the bench. He was gone from the country a bit to fast to react. There is no guarantee we would have been granted the passport seizure, but I think there would have been reasonable odds of it.

and not that seizing his passport would have made it impossible to run, but it would have made it harder. Oh well.

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Quote from: franky1 on July 18, 2024, 06:18:24 PM

CSW decided to leave the UK to avoid getting caught in a CRIMINAL charge

*the common sense theory is the judge sought out to check if his passport was used at an airport without csw consulting the courts, rather than CSW consulting the court with a forwarding address of residency due to wanting to shy away from public eye

He's eventually going to be served, unless he wants to find himself on an INTERPOL Red Notice.

Does even INTERPOL have to tell him that he is not Satoshi? SMH.

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Quote from: shield132 on July 19, 2024, 05:39:17 AM

Quote from: franky1 on July 18, 2024, 06:18:24 PM

the JUDGE used his own authority to investigate the whereabouts of CSW and found that he left his residence and there is evidence he left the UK*

I don't understand this, why did they let him to leave the UK? When the government knows that situation is like this, they have to immediately ban the person from leaving the country.

Without locking him up there is no way to really stop someone from leaving.
From Dover it's a couple of hours by boat to France. With the kind of money he has taken from people it should be no issue to have someone with a decent sized boat take him across with no questions asked and find a private dock where nobody is really looking.

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My hat goes off to the many victims of his lies and the lives of the poor people that had to endure his persecution. I respect all the people who stood up for the truth and those who worked tirelessly to prove it. (You know who you are.... )

Thank you for standing in the firing line and taking the punches for the rest of us. I hope you can get some rest to prepare for the civil claims to bankrupt this guy.... because he deserve nothing less.

Now we can concentrate on building Bitcoin to something that are much bigger than CW's ego... Wink

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Quote from: Nwada001 on July 18, 2024, 12:10:31 PM

What's the point for him to run, if I may ask? What's he afraid of? Why not stand and face the consequences of his actions since he had the chance to stop parading himself as Satoshi did a did a long time ago, which he refused to take? Instead, he keeps on pushing and suing who ever comes his way.

What can keep a man running and hiding for a long period of time is the amount of wealth he has at his disposal, of which I doubt he has much yet to be seized as ordered by the court to seize all his own assets. So how long does he think he can run before he is found and brought back to face judgement?

He was lying about being Satoshi for years, he was lying about everything and wanted to force Bitcoin Core developers to give him access to Satoshi's coins. Imagine what would happen if this liar had won, he is a scammer, a liar, everything that man shouldn't be. He has to run, to hide to escape.

Quote from: franky1 on July 18, 2024, 06:18:24 PM

the JUDGE used his own authority to investigate the whereabouts of CSW and found that he left his residence and there is evidence he left the UK*

I don't understand this, why did they let him to leave the UK? When the government knows that situation is like this, they have to immediately ban the person from leaving the country.

Quote from: nutildah on July 18, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

There's also a chance the "money men" recruited by Calvin Ayre to fund the whole Faketoshi fiasco are now out for blood, and 'ol Craiggy has legit gone into hiding to escape their wrath. Remember we are dealing with a consortia of cold-blooded psychopaths here, not the run-of-the-mill crypto scammers.

Is Calvin Ayre really pissed off? I don't know because this is his tweet about Craig Wright - https://x.com/CalvinAyre/status/1768277332014358942
I think he has a very low IQ and earned lots of money by doing illegal things.

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I am happy to see that the success of COPA lawsuit has paved the way for further legal action against Craig Wright. Perjury charges make sense to me, and a criminal investigation like that will also serve as a preventive measure for people not to claim they are someone they aren't. It's convenient that Craig has left the country, but living a life of a fugitive is also a pretty good punishment for his actions. I think he'll reappear, though, because he loves attention and probably can't actually lie low.

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I honestly don't care if he runs away and hides for the rest of his life, rats like him don't deserve anything better after everything they've done. What is important is that the truth was proven in court only because the judge, unlike some others, clearly understood what it was about and decided to put an end to that factory of lies.

For me, Faketoshi is not the only one who should pay the price for his deception, but all those who supported him all along should also. When someone commits a terrorist act, they are undoubtedly guilty of their crime, but the authorities are always looking for those who financed the crime. This is a criminal joint venture in which Faketoshi is only one of the prominent figures.

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Quote from: Accardo on July 18, 2024, 11:59:37 AM

Because he's bound to face serious legal consequences for his lies and forgery, Wright's whereabout is unknown and he's fled from his previous residence in Wimbledon, London. He could face Arrest or extradition, depending on his location.

Do not worry wherever he goes or hides he will get caught. He cannot flee or hide from the authorities for long. He tried everything to make the world believe that he is the creator of Bitcoin but destiny had other ways to prove that he was not. He is out of his lies and his now getting the same treatment that he used to do with others after the ruling.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on July 18, 2024, 12:10:31 PM

Quote from: Accardo on July 18, 2024, 11:59:37 AM

Because he's bound to face serious legal consequences for his lies and forgery, Wright's whereabout is unknown and he's fled from his previous residence in Wimbledon, London. He could face Arrest or extradition, depending on his location.

What's the point for him to run, if I may ask? What's he afraid of? Why not stand and face the consequences of his actions since he had the chance to stop parading himself as Satoshi did a did a long time ago, which he refused to take? Instead, he keeps on pushing and suing who ever comes his way.

What can keep a man running and hiding for a long period of time is the amount of wealth he has at his disposal, of which I doubt he has much yet to be seized as ordered by the court to seize all his own assets. So how long does he think he can run before he is found and brought back to face judgement?

The point of CSW to run is because he knows the game is up, his lies have
finally come back to haunt him.

Whats he afraid of? imprisonment, the shame of being convicted and how he
is seen by his supporters, backers and followers - although im sure there are
plenty who would follow him to the grave believing he is still Satoshi. Also as
nutilda pointed out there is money owed to his backers now as they see it,
things could get very ugly for faketoshi!

He wont stand and face the consequences because he knows its futile, he has
been found out, the house of cards has toppled and they are in mid air on their way
to the ground.

Only a matter of time before the house of cards got too big for CSW and that
they would come crashing down, justice is on its way to being served.

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The UK Supreme Court forced Craig Wright to declare himself a Satoshi impersonator and the charges he faced were:

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- Craig Wright is not Satoshi.
- He is neither the author nor the owner of the Bitcoin White Paper.
- He is not the creator of Bitcoin.
- Finally: Craig Wright must admit that he is impersonating Satoshi.

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Visit the following link to see the full and detailed judgment.
https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/copa-v-wright/

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Quote from: Nwada001 on July 18, 2024, 12:10:31 PM

What's the point for him to run, if I may ask?

That is because he thought he was gonna get away with it. Now that he did not in fact convince anyone that he is the real Satoshi, he does not want to own up to his actions and instead went running away.

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What's he afraid of?

To be fair, no one would want to be locked up and punished. But him running away just says that he is indeed guilty.

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There's also a chance the "money men" recruited by Calvin Ayre to fund the whole Faketoshi fiasco are now out for blood, and 'ol Craiggy has legit gone into hiding to escape their wrath. Remember we are dealing with a consortia of cold-blooded psychopaths here, not the run-of-the-mill crypto scammers.

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on July 18, 2024, 04:12:44 PM

In case that legal notice on his website disappears, here is the Internet Archive address of it https://web.archive.org/web/20240718065152/https://craigwright.net/

When he tried to do many things, publicly on Internet, his traces won't be erased. There is a Wayback Machine's archives in your link and there are more other websites, scrapers to do their jobs and scrape all the bullshits from Craig Wright.

How many wrongs make a wright?
Nothing is right from Wright at all, justice reserved and he deserves with judgement he got.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2024, 01:13:33 PM

I don’t know if I’d say not knowing his whereabouts is the same as him missing. As far as I’m aware the guy doesn’t have to share where he is and especially not to random people on the internet. So I think it’s a little premature to consider him missing instead of just saying he’s avoiding the public eye, which is understandable.

the JUDGE used his own authority to investigate the whereabouts of CSW and found that he left his residence and there is evidence he left the UK*

so its not a silly drama thing of evading media/'public eye'.. its actual about leaving the country to avoid the judicial system that is currently investigating whether to charge him with a CRIME, (as oppose to previous suits which were only civil.)

yep the crown prosecution service (like the US 'states attorney') whom decide which cases of possible criminality should proceed to court via deciding on charges and requirements of warrants and such

CSW decided to leave the UK to avoid getting caught in a CRIMINAL charge

*the common sense theory is the judge sought out to check if his passport was used at an airport without csw consulting the courts, rather than CSW consulting the court with a forwarding address of residency due to wanting to shy away from public eye

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Quote from: Accardo on July 18, 2024, 03:26:26 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 18, 2024, 01:13:33 PM

I don’t know if I’d say not knowing his whereabouts is the same as him missing. As far as I’m aware the guy doesn’t have to share where he is and especially not to random people on the internet. So I think it’s a little premature to consider him missing instead of just saying he’s avoiding the public eye, which is understandable.

When a person is nowhere to be found he's missing. It doesn't matter if he's hiding or taken away from the public eye. Every missing person is somewhere surrounded by people, who probably doesn't know him or don't want to communicate with the world of the person's location. Literally, to those in search for him, he's missing. The last I checked, "avoid" reflected as a strong synonym for missing. Since he's avoiding the Judge, it's preferable to say he's missing. Additionally, on the hunt for him, the Judge actually went to his house, not on the internet.

Whether he is missing or not, we know that he's a fraud even before the sentencing. Now, he may be avoiding or hiding people because more people are learning the truth about his personality. We don't know his reasonings why he is out of the limelight. But people should be very careful in believing what's out in the cyberspace. Don't screw up your funds for some strangers telling you that they know about an investment you can reap high profits.

Also, I am thinking that CW may have realized that he can't escape in the eyes of law this time as they are the ones proving that he is indeed committing perjury. He can say all he wants but the law is stating otherwise. So which one will dictate where his life will be?

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