Topic: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper - page 2. (Read 1644 times)

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Thanks, Captain Obvious. And what makes you think he can meet all of the other requirements needed to succeed in any legal action?

Let's table the discussion about how Craig Wright would obviously face legal disputes over original authorship if he tries to leverage the copyright.

More fundamentally, who could he even take legal action against when -- according to him -- he himself already distributed the the source code under a free software license a decade ago? He has no grounds to extract rent now.

Quote from: sgbett on May 23, 2019, 09:33:31 AM

Trust, but verify.

What exactly have you verified?

It's amazing the level of proof y'all demand of CSW, and the lengths you go to hand wave away the mountain of evidence. He's spent decades, and billions on building nChain, filing patents documenting his inventions, fighting lawsuits from those that would seek to try and blackmail and or defame him.

In other words, he's done a bunch of hand-waving and nothing else.

In the free open-source software world, code talks. CSW brings nothing to the table at all.

His legal arguments are completely bogus, too. This is all going to blow up badly in his face one day.

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It's amazing the level of proof y'all demand of CSW, and the lengths you go to hand wave away the mountain of evidence. He's spent decades, and billions on building nChain, filing patents documenting his inventions, fighting lawsuits from those that would seek to try and blackmail and or defame him.

All you libertarian, anarchist types so sure that Bitcoin is going to upset the status quo, but then can't make the glaringly obvious connection as to why so much time and effort would be put into trying to discredit CSW and stop BSV.

But somebody posts some theory about how he's just going to perjure himself to the USCO, and trying defraud the court system, in order to "pump BSV" and you all just nod and pat each other on the back. Good job bois, you figured it out!

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Quote from: Ailmand on May 21, 2019, 07:37:29 AM

Quote from: sgbett on May 21, 2019, 07:21:33 AM

https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

Well, Craig is a complete fraud and who cares if US reconized him as satoshi. Craig himself cannot prove that he is satoshi so it's a baseless recognition. People claiming to be satoshi will not end not as long as the real satoshi reveals himself which I doubt will never happen.

Right mate and only stupid people in crypto will believe and justify Craig Wright being Satoshi Nakamoto,because why took him years before claiming to be the one while people here are seeking for the creator for how long now
Obviously he claims to be Satoshi because of the growing population and capitalization of this forum so he can milk a lot from us.how foolishness he was

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To my mind, this was done to pump BSV by Craig Wright. I don't believe he is real satoshi, as there's no logic in creating btc and stating "hey, I'm a real satoshi." Real satoshi have a lot of btc, so whether this is a single person or a corporation, he (they) mustb't disclose his (their) identity as it might be not safe.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on May 23, 2019, 04:39:46 AM

Everybody should read the news, properly and refer to all the sources. So much wrong information going on and come on, the US government recognizing him as Satoshi, so what? US government recognizes US dollar. It also said Iraq had chemical bombs but then never found it. Since when have we put all our trust in the US government anyway? They can say whatever they want. So can Craig Wright. Let us not be sheep and follow blindly.

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The U.S. Copyright Office clarified today that it does not recognize Craig Wright as Satoshi Nakamoto—the pseudonymous author of the Bitcoin whitepaper—only that Wright has filed a form claiming that he’s Satoshi.

https://decryptmedia.com/7145/copyright-office-craig-wright-bitcoin

That is to clarify all the confusion. I feel bad to those investors caught up with this ruckus. I hope they should investigate first before jumping into some false news that this CW camp released.

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Well there could be a chance that Craig is part of the making with bitcoin as he do copied the way how.bitcoin was created even its total supply in the market. It seems that this man had knowledge with the pseudo name Satoshi. Whatever it may be either craig is satoshi or not what matter here is that bitcoin is still alive and kicking. We all going to hope that the surge of bitcoin market price is the start of bitcoin bull run.

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Well speculate no more lofty platitude wielder, you'll figure out far more if you follow your own advice. Who told you it was "meaningless" or did you imagine it? Why did they tell you it was meaningless? What was their *motive* for doing so. Guys need to start thinking for yourselves and doing the research... *YOURSELF* you won't always get the facts laid out on a plate for you, but here this one's for free...

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#411

"(b), no civil action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall be instituted until preregistration or registration of the copyright claim has been made in accordance with this title."

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Trust, but verify.

That way you find out how you can trust later. It's how you build reputation, a network built around honesty. Otherwise you have to verify everything all the time which is totally unpractical. Kinda like Bitcoin.

Maybe I'm stupid and if that's the case, I apologise for it, but I don't understand what does your statement proves.
From what I understand, this is what happened in a timeline,

Hodlonaut reportedly starts #CraigWrightIsAFraud on Twitter
Craig puts a bounty to whoever finds Hodlonaut's real identity (democracy at its best)
Vitalik referred to Craig as a scammer and as a fake publicly (more than once!)
Craig's lawyers send a Letter of Claim to Vitalik asking him to back out of his comments, apologies publicly and admitting that Craig is Satoshi Nakamoto
Vitalik ignores the Letter
Craig's lawyer are legally allowed to sue Vitalik after the Letter's deadline
[Personal Guess] Craig asks his lawyers to pursuit a legal suit against Vitalik but they advice him that he doesn't have a chance to win a suit if first he doesn't apply for the copyright
[Personal Guess] The next news we'll hear will be a suit against Vitalik who doesn't accept him as Satoshi which is the title he's trying to copyright

I don't know what Craig is trying to achieve, but just think of why would he want to know Hodlonaut's identity? He wouldn't send a hitman after him I hope. He probably wanted to sue Hodlonaut for calling him fraud.
Since this didn't work out, he decided to go after a man who's identity is known and who has also publicly called him fraud; and that's Vitalik.
To me, Craig seems desperate to pursuit a legal action of some sort. Maybe he's hoping to at least win an apology for the damage that was caused to his image so that he can twist this into "I won a legal suit, I am recognised as Satoshi"?

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Quote from: squatter on May 23, 2019, 02:14:35 AM

https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

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In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? Cheesy

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

Quote from: squatter on May 23, 2019, 02:14:35 AM

What is the purpose of him claiming this?

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."

Well speculate no more lofty platitude wielder, you'll figure out far more if you follow your own advice. Who told you it was "meaningless" or did you imagine it? Why did they tell you it was meaningless? What was their *motive* for doing so. Guys need to start thinking for yourselves and doing the research... *YOURSELF* you won't always get the facts laid out on a plate for you, but here this one's for free...

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#411

"(b), no civil action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall be instituted until preregistration or registration of the copyright claim has been made in accordance with this title."

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Trust, but verify.

That way you find out how you can trust later. It's how you build reputation, a network built around honesty. Otherwise you have to verify everything all the time which is totally unpractical. Kinda like Bitcoin.

He applied for it because he knew it would cause a massive spike for bitcoin sv and a lot of speculation. He knew social media would jump into it like flies jump into shit.

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Craig Wright is going to end up as the biggest loser in cryptospace. Honestly the guy has no shame, he really is embarrassing. I can’t wait to see his demise, he’s a laughable conman.

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https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

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In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? Cheesy

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

Quote from: coin-investor on May 22, 2019, 02:02:03 AM

What is the purpose of him claiming this?

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."

Well speculate no more lofty platitude wielder, you'll figure out far more if you follow your own advice. Who told you it was "meaningless" or did you imagine it? Why did they tell you it was meaningless? What was their *motive* for doing so. Guys need to start thinking for yourselves and doing the research... *YOURSELF* you won't always get the facts laid out on a plate for you, but here this one's for free...

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#411

"(b), no civil action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall be instituted until preregistration or registration of the copyright claim has been made in accordance with this title."

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Trust, but verify.

That way you find out how you can trust later. It's how you build reputation, a network built around honesty. Otherwise you have to verify everything all the time which is totally unpractical. Kinda like Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Pursuer on May 21, 2019, 09:01:09 AM

Quote from: DooMAD on May 21, 2019, 08:40:42 AM

On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi,...

nobody has recognized him as dick, it is just that OP for some reason decide to choose this misleading title for his topic! what CW has done is just submission of a copyright which is not even accepted. and submission is not such a complicated or exclusive thing to do so anybody can do it.

That's a good way to attract more readers and comments if we have one good lawyer who does not believe in what Craig is doing he can object to that and charge Wright as personating a popular figure, somebody should stand up against this impostor, he will get a lot of support here if someone stand against this idiot.

Everybody should read the news, properly and refer to all the sources. So much wrong information going on and come on, the US government recognizing him as Satoshi, so what? US government recognizes US dollar. It also said Iraq had chemical bombs but then never found it. Since when have we put all our trust in the US government anyway? They can say whatever they want. So can Craig Wright. Let us not be sheep and follow blindly.

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Quote from: squatter on May 23, 2019, 02:14:35 AM

https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

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In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? Cheesy

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

What is the purpose of him claiming this?

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."

It was a formula to pump his shitcoin.
The formula is made of,
- many BSV shillers,
- a lot of stupidity for people to believe them without prior research,
- and a few opportunist traders who ride the fun and will hopefully get out before the price collapses.

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https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

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In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? Cheesy

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.