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Quote from: Script3d on January 18, 2019, 05:02:15 AM

Quote from: semobo on January 17, 2019, 03:21:17 PM

Quote from: Script3d on January 16, 2019, 06:04:14 AM

Quote from: Andrey13101991 on January 15, 2019, 12:26:58 PM

Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

Getting an exchange hacked doesn't mean they want to steal their user coins and they can make that money in the long run or even more, You never know who is the hacker, an entity or the exchange.

But cryptopia looks shady for few months and now most of the people expected there is a hack happened.Lot of veterans habe suspicion that they did by themselves for exit scam without much bad name for the brand but anyway all the people who kept their funds at that exchange forget about it and move on it is unlikely to get into you.

probably because im just a small trader, i actually find their service good, when i withdraw funds it actually send the funds a second later, i didn't expect this to happen, this would serve me as an example to not keep funds in exchange.

Keeping funds online isnt bad as long as you know that the wallet or exchange is legit and you dont also need to blame yourself if ever they got hacked because its an accident anyway and its not your fault , its also not their fault because they arent lacking of security precuations . its just hacker are more smart than regular individuals .

I know cryptopia before and they were totally legit so theres no chance that they could turn into scam .

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service thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptopia-cryptocurrency-platform-services-and-development-1669443

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Quote from: Andrey13101991 on January 15, 2019, 12:26:58 PM

Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

Still Waiting... [skeleton.gif]

It maybe near time to report to NZP the exchange has having stolen all our coins (because they have effectively) and at least it would force them to release a detailed statement of the situation.

https://online.police.govt.nz/ "Missing Property" report station
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/5392901?backurl=%2Fcompanies%2Fapp%2Fui%2Fpages%2Fcompanies%2Fsearch%3Fmode%3Dstandard%26type%3Dentities%26q%3DCryptopia

I maybe daft, but if someone steals a candy bar from Circle-K, it is common practice to shutter the doors for weeks while Law Officials twittle twattle about the "on-going" investigation?

https://elementus.io/blog/cryptopia-hack-transparency/

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Nobody seems to know:

   How the theft took place: How, when, and where were the funds taken?
   How much was lost: Cryptopia has not disclosed how much was stolen. Media reports on the total value of stolen assets range from $3m to $13m.
   The current status of the stolen funds: We've seen a few blips about exchanges freezing stolen funds, but nothing on how much was frozen or where the rest of the funds sit.

This hack impacts thousands of people who have funds in Cryptopia's custody. While Cryptopia may have their reasons for remaining quiet, we think it's important for the facts to be known.

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Quote from: semobo on January 17, 2019, 03:21:17 PM

Quote from: Script3d on January 16, 2019, 06:04:14 AM

Quote from: Andrey13101991 on January 15, 2019, 12:26:58 PM

Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

Getting an exchange hacked doesn't mean they want to steal their user coins and they can make that money in the long run or even more, You never know who is the hacker, an entity or the exchange.

But cryptopia looks shady for few months and now most of the people expected there is a hack happened.Lot of veterans habe suspicion that they did by themselves for exit scam without much bad name for the brand but anyway all the people who kept their funds at that exchange forget about it and move on it is unlikely to get into you.

probably because im just a small trader, i actually find their service good, when i withdraw funds it actually send the funds a second later, i didn't expect this to happen, this would serve me as an example to not keep funds in exchange.

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Now Know little Vloggers are ranting on Craptopia.
Coincide with Grin and Constantinople ETH fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0M2G4BtqhY
Bobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKmZ4rMaETc
possiable she a chick

Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on April 05, 2017, 04:05:58 PM

You can follow their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptopia-cryptocurrency-platform-services-and-development-1669443
I'm not use them yet, I'm still in watching, but sooner I will use their service. Looks like their developer active on this forum, but I can't say it's legit.

Seems like they have already do a regulation: cryptopia limited.

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Quote from: Script3d on January 16, 2019, 06:04:14 AM

Quote from: Andrey13101991 on January 15, 2019, 12:26:58 PM

Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

Getting an exchange hacked doesn't mean they want to steal their user coins and they can make that money in the long run or even more, You never know who is the hacker, an entity or the exchange.

But cryptopia looks shady for few months and now most of the people expected there is a hack happened.Lot of veterans habe suspicion that they did by themselves for exit scam without much bad name for the brand but anyway all the people who kept their funds at that exchange forget about it and move on it is unlikely to get into you.

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Quote from: Andrey13101991 on January 15, 2019, 12:26:58 PM

Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

Unfortenly, most likely this is a game over for Cryptopia. Who knows, whom is a real hacker, maybe Cryptopia owners just stealed user funds by themselves and all this news is only fairy tale. Now is not an easy time for a little exchanges and they want to survive anyways.

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As i understand they stole just ERC20 tokens. It is sad story and a reminder that the coins need to be stored only on the wallet, the private keys of which you own yourself.

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Quote from: Andrey13101991 on January 15, 2019, 12:26:58 PM

Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

Getting an exchange hacked doesn't mean they want to steal their user coins and they can make that money in the long run or even more, You never know who is the hacker, an entity or the exchange.

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This really a sad news, I hope this will be a lesson to people who leave funds on an exchange, i loss 32$ worth of ETH. But i don't feel guilty because this is all my fault.. Sad

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We should not hold our funds on exchanges as they could be hacked any time and not all the exchanges refund their
customers in such situations. Hardware wallets like Ledger Nano or trezor are the safest solution for storing your funds.
Only the funds for trading should be kept on exchanges.

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that are not good news for cryptopia. i was always very happy with cryptopia and liked to use it. to read that they were hacked is really sad.

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Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 12:38:34 PM

Quote from: bathrobehero on January 15, 2019, 12:12:24 PM

Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 11:09:20 AM

Very few could grade above it's level in terms of transparency.

What do you mean here? Let's be honest, no centralized, closed source exchange could ever be really transparent at all.

CRAPTOPIA broadcasted exactly and per account it was holding.

Articulating the sum total in each account, exactly for post haxor accounting, would be beneficial.

Cryptopia was 1 of few exchanges to actually publish the docket of coins on deposit.

It was the most glass of houses.

The tragedy here is the most transparent of blockchain exchanges still fuck'd it up.

Cryptopia has always been actually very good except with shit coins getting forked out. I would not have expected this to have happened in this way.

If it really is an internal job that will be shocking.

Who has the real figure of the hack yet. I keep seeing 30M then 3M .... ? 50M? 5m?

They obviously did not bother taking the low value low volume shit coins anyway so most of the penny traders will be okay if they reopen and allow trading to continue or withdrawal of peoples coins.

Are they still trying to see exactly what was taken or they now know?

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Quote from: bathrobehero on January 15, 2019, 12:12:24 PM

Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 11:09:20 AM

Very few could grade above it's level in terms of transparency.

What do you mean here? Let's be honest, no centralized, closed source exchange could ever be really transparent at all.

CRAPTOPIA broadcasted exactly and per account what they were holding.

Articulating the sum total in each account, exactly for post haxor accounting, would be beneficial.

Cryptopia was 1 of few exchanges to actually publish the docket of coins on deposit.

It was the most glass of houses.

The tragedy here is the most transparent of blockchain exchanges still fuck'd it up.

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Now you need to wait for announcement from the exchange. I hope that they will return all the stolen funds to their users.

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Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 10:23:49 AM

https://etherscan.io/address/0xaa923cd02364bb8a4c3d6f894178d2e12231655c

$3.6 m of eth

It's not that much (now), but anyway... Hopefully we will never see some TOP exchange hack - that would be a real disaster kinda mt.Gox. As for crAptopia - I've never traded there, but even if so I wouldn't deposit more than 0.1% of my funds, cuz it's totally crappy exchange.

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Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 11:09:20 AM

well that by your logic applies to ALL exchanges given whatever a "shitcoin exchange" can be defined as.

It's safe to say that every single exchange will eventually get hacked. Most of them already were, probably many more times than they'd report it publicly if the losses weren't that great.

Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 11:09:20 AM

Very few could grade above it's level in terms of transparency.

What do you mean here? Let's be honest, no centralized, closed source exchange could ever be really transparent at all.

Even some basic transparency would imply knowing how much coins were in hot and cold wallets. But exchanges don't even share that. And realistically, how could they had all those coins in hot wallets AND let the system withdraw it automatically (if that wasn't circumvented)? After all these years and so many hacks that's just either utter stupidity or a cover.

Many crypto services and tools were ended in the last few months, it's not impossible this is how they wanted to get out. Though we'll never know for sure.

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The exchange was small, but really high-quality and professional. I was confused only by the exchange support service. The fact that the exchange has been hacked is extremely sad, I hope that the owners of the exchange will honestly refund the funds, because it is their mistake (if it is not manipulation).

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Crypto currency exchanges have very low security levels. This arrangement will make many investors suffer. Crypto currency exchanges should now be better inspected and controlled Undecided

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seems like real coins not tokens will be left in tact for their owners

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Quote from: DanWalker on January 15, 2019, 10:30:43 AM

First of all let's be frankly - cryptopia was a shitcoin exchange and the "hack" was just a matter of time. I don't believe that some hacker was able to hach cold wallets from outside. It's definitely the work of cryptopia founders.

In terms of security 2Fa, multiple check points, cryptopia was A++;
in terms of customer support, they started to suck mid-2018.

just a matter of time.
well that by your logic applies to ALL exchanges given whatever a "shitcoin exchange" can be defined as.

This was a serious exchange. was.

Again A++;
Very few could grade above it's level in terms of transparency.
In terms of jurisdiction.
In terms of functionality.

ETH specifically be hacked is a giant red flag.

This looks slippery deeper than non-nonchalant just a "shitcoin" exchange comments.

{It's definitely the work of cryptopia founders.}

Looks like that is the reasonable explanation.
Founders don't know. But some one with keys.

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First of all let's be frankly - cryptopia was a shitcoin exchange and the "hack" was just a matter of time. I don't believe that some hacker was able to hach cold wallets from outside. It's definitely the work of cryptopia founders.

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https://etherscan.io/address/0xaa923cd02364bb8a4c3d6f894178d2e12231655c

$3.6 m of eth

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Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 07:43:39 AM

$13,000,000
stolen

Quote from: BitGrind3r on January 15, 2019, 07:21:05 AM

From a r/Cryptopia thread:

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r/Cryptopia
•Posted byu/toldjahP
1 hour ago
Cryptopia Hack analysis (min. $13,000,000 stolen)

Hi there

I checked etherscan and collected some informations below. In total min $13,000,000 were stolen.

Transfer of 19,390 ETH from Cryptopia ($2,468,043) (Jan-13-2019 01:30:35 PM +UTC): https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8a7c2b34f23eee02401e7c3fa1ea2ce8d3132e7ca3811d673ca35898c9535aae

Transfer of 48,029,305 ($1,072,362) CENNZ (Jan-13-2019 01:40:17 PM +UTC) Wallet is tagged as Cryptopia Wallet by Whale Alert: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x31a58df14ea3420878267e2b9cdd242d983b5298ef48c5cd9a799ed10605f393

Transfer of 3,844,247,574 ($304,181) DAPS (Jan-13-2019 01:40:17 PM +UTC): https://etherscan.io/tx/0x61b2ca4911750eb3278945f80e0c3f8a7f94578ba20b0e9240e5a86faaa166ae

CENNZ and DAPS where transfered to https://etherscan.io/address/0x9007a0421145b06a0345d55a8c0f0327f62a2224 which is not the same adress where the ETH went on. But later this adress made a transfer to the ETH adress https://etherscan.io/address/0xc8b759860149542a98a3eb57c14aadf59d6d89b9 (which is the adress the ETH went).

Token Balance 2. adress: ($11,072,793) https://etherscan.io/address/0x9007a0421145b06a0345d55a8c0f0327f62a2224

Please help to collect further details.

so it is safe to say that, The lose is significant as We are losing all of our money?
what a great news for us, just remembered when Mt.Gox went scam a couple of years ago. They did it in an early Q1 2014, just like today. Will history repeat its story again?
a rumor about ETF, Hacked exchange, what is more?

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Quote from: HardFireMiner on January 15, 2019, 09:06:52 AM

Quote from: khufuking on January 15, 2019, 09:05:06 AM

I don't know what is up with Cryptopia and only used them a couple of times and have no coins there at all. But speaking about decentralized exchanges, I am a big fan of them and I wish they can do better but some decentralized exchanges are just bad and have a lot of problems that can lead to huge loss in money for traders there too. But there are really good decentralized exchanges that I use on a daily bases too. so ya until now there is no perfect solution for us yet.

Last year, etherdelta was "hacked" by same hackers who "hacked" now cryptopia.

no sauce given

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very bad news for the market today, why this incident must occur. I feel sorry for those who still have assets in cryptopia. luckily i didn't use cryptopia from mid 2018. when the market was falling and there was news about the market being hacked like this. this will have a negative impact on prices.

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Quote from: JavaScrypt on January 15, 2019, 02:54:51 AM

Down for 48 hours.

Poof!

Why don't they sell the exchange to interested buyers instead of packing up. I never really used cryptopia that much but I knew it was a resting place for most shit tokens

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We just reached the middle of the first month of this new year and this kind of events is already taking place, this is really bad especially for those who has lots of funds in the exchange.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptopia/

another channels

https://twitter.com/hashtag/cryptopia?
https://twitter.com/hashtag/cryptopiadown?

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$13,000,000
stolen

Quote from: BitGrind3r on January 15, 2019, 07:21:05 AM

From a r/Cryptopia thread:

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r/Cryptopia
•Posted byu/toldjahP
1 hour ago
Cryptopia Hack analysis (min. $13,000,000 stolen)

Hi there

I checked etherscan and collected some informations below. In total min $13,000,000 were stolen.

Transfer of 19,390 ETH from Cryptopia ($2,468,043) (Jan-13-2019 01:30:35 PM +UTC): https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8a7c2b34f23eee02401e7c3fa1ea2ce8d3132e7ca3811d673ca35898c9535aae

Transfer of 48,029,305 ($1,072,362) CENNZ (Jan-13-2019 01:40:17 PM +UTC) Wallet is tagged as Cryptopia Wallet by Whale Alert: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x31a58df14ea3420878267e2b9cdd242d983b5298ef48c5cd9a799ed10605f393

Transfer of 3,844,247,574 ($304,181) DAPS (Jan-13-2019 01:40:17 PM +UTC): https://etherscan.io/tx/0x61b2ca4911750eb3278945f80e0c3f8a7f94578ba20b0e9240e5a86faaa166ae

CENNZ and DAPS where transfered to https://etherscan.io/address/0x9007a0421145b06a0345d55a8c0f0327f62a2224 which is not the same adress where the ETH went on. But later this adress made a transfer to the ETH adress https://etherscan.io/address/0xc8b759860149542a98a3eb57c14aadf59d6d89b9 (which is the adress the ETH went).

Token Balance 2. adress: ($11,072,793) https://etherscan.io/address/0x9007a0421145b06a0345d55a8c0f0327f62a2224

Please help to collect further details.

cr7

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It's not the first time hackers break into this exchange. And I'm stepping on that rake a second time! Now my shitcoin has fallen into the wrong hands. I made appropriate conclusions about the team...! Sad

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opsy!... lucky me that I don't have coins on that exchange, hopefully their exchange will fix soon... but it could be exit scam. Undecided

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Quote from: Awesomus Maximus on January 15, 2019, 06:28:46 AM

Aren't there some security flags and/or security mechanisms when you initiate 19,000 ETH withdrawal from a hot wallet on cryptopia? Anyhow that is why we desperately need some good decentralized exchanges to replace these traditional exchanges.

security flags like duh!
big question.

They limit withdraw amounts on many shitcoins, but for ETH and TET pull Millions and not placed in pending for review.

SRSLY?

How is it even possible to 'allow' draw downs that exceed even the biggest account?
The scrypts would automatically ping a big red flag on such.

If that was true and that's indeed if that was a real garbage exchange site and the worst team in the world.
Just curious about is there a report on security of cryptopia? Let's say no to the crappy shitty low volume exhange site.

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oh well there's go my tokens and alts..

I am curious how they gonna fix this situation..

but approx 3 mil lost? that like a standard ICO soft capt

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Quote from: HardFireMiner on January 15, 2019, 06:55:57 AM

More such "hacks" I expect on other such exchanges. Soon

If there is an ETH exploit, which is what this indicates, and note novaexchange delisted all ETH products siting security issues, get your popcorn ready.

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Quote from: Awesomus Maximus on January 15, 2019, 06:28:46 AM

Aren't there some security flags and/or security mechanisms when you initiate 19,000 ETH withdrawal from a hot wallet on cryptopia? Anyhow that is why we desperately need some good decentralized exchanges to replace these traditional exchanges.

security flags like duh!
big question.

They limit withdraw amounts on many shitcoins, but for ETH and TET pull Millions and not placed in pending for review.

SRSLY?

How is it even possible to 'allow' draw downs that exceed even the biggest account?
The scrypts would automatically ping a big red flag on such.

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More such "hacks" I expect on other such exchanges. Soon

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FREEDOM RESERVE

they are a team of amateurs

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I have some minor amounts of ETN coins with cryptopia, so I won't have any regret if they go down for good. Any details as to how the hack was performed? Aren't there some security flags and/or security mechanisms when you initiate 19,000 ETH withdrawal from a hot wallet on cryptopia? Anyhow that is why we desperately need some good decentralized exchanges to replace these traditional exchanges.

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My goodness. What is the point of requiring users of adding security to their accounts like 2FA when the exchange itself is hacked?
I am glad I pulled out most of my coins there due to wallet being on maintenance most of the time.

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I saw the news on social media I didn't believe it was real, but an announcement was made from the exchange account. The Ethereum accounts seem to have been emptied.

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Cryptopia put on hold and at the same time, there will be an investigation from their local law. Based on our history, it is very unlikely to go live soon.
and they said 'significant losses', which means almost all of their assets were gone.
the probability for this exchange to open again is almost zero. do not put too much your hope into it,

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https://steemit.com/steempress/@nederob/hackersobtainatleast36millionfromcryptopia-svhwgdlwch

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Transactions found on Etherscan suggest that Cryptopia lost at least 19.309 ethereum, which would equal a current value of 2.5 million dollars. The amount was moved from a Cryptopia wallet around the alleged time of the hack. Another major coin transfer from around that time involved 48 thousand CENNZ, which is $1.1 million. Which would suggest that Cryptopia lost at least 3.6 million dollars, but the actual amount is likely to be a lot more.

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stolen tokens
https://etherscan.io/address/0x9007a0421145b06a0345d55a8c0f0327f62a2224#tokentxns

https://etherscan.io/address/0x9007a0421145b06a0345d55a8c0f0327f62a2224
value $11M

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This has happened several times already in the past, I'm glad I don't have coins on this exchange anymore, with so many exchange coming out fresh from ICO security should be the concern, the one that can give out the best security is the one that will stood up.

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It's posted on their twitter handle.

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1085084168852291586

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Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 05:17:57 AM

crowdsource points at ETH wallet
https://etherscan.io/address/0x2984581ece53a4390d1f568673cf693139c97049

Cryptopia is packing up? I find it hard to believe believe because they are going to earn more than just these ETH if they will continue to keep operating. They can make improvements of this exchange. Or it could also mean a whale is up for holding those withdrawn ETH or perhaps moving it to an exchange where there is more volume.

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Lucky i don't have any coins there except my bitsend week coins, which i withdraw weekly so rip 50 cents if my coin was also stolen, there's no security that is secure enough to not get hacked.

Quote from: four3200 on January 15, 2019, 05:20:24 AM

Exhibit #2
15 million tether transfered to Kraken whoozie
https://omniexplorer.info/search/640a454da464bbf104b00176f895d9fba971cb3a4756d0b70eca1df10ffd1cbf
https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1085077813605163008 … sauce

lmao, the hacker will get caught for sure, if this is the hacker.

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Exhibit #2
15 million tether transfered to Kraken whoozie
https://omniexplorer.info/search/640a454da464bbf104b00176f895d9fba971cb3a4756d0b70eca1df10ffd1cbf
https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1085077813605163008 … sauce

four3200

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crowdsource points at ETH wallet
https://etherscan.io/address/0x2984581ece53a4390d1f568673cf693139c97049

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Aside from that statement, is there a statement to how much money has been lost on Cryptopia? I have a little bit of funds on Cryptopia that I did not take out since long time ago. Should've taken them out when I could. Damn Cry