Topic: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development (Read 172850 times)

If I remember correctly, at the beginning it was not mandatory to enter any name there.

But everything is possible, as well as the fact that they will look for any reason to refuse KYC.
It would have to be a serious amount to give personal information to a hacked exchange like Cryptopia.

Dont know really and you have to ask the Support about that.

Unfortunately, as I understand low balance accounts are not entitled to claim their remaining assets, as I understand. What is/will be the threshold for that? Does anyone knows it?

Completing a KYC process will be mandatory but what will happen if you haven't put your real name in your account?

I see there is a soft "cut-off date" at the end of June and a "final" one at the end of the year(2024). What does it mean?

There are news from the Liquidators!
https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/cryptopia-limited/update-for-cryptopia-claimants-and-stakeholders-5-march-2024/

Here you will find 2 pdf Links:
https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/globalassets/_markets_/nzl/media/ruscoe-v-houchens-distribution-2024-nzhc-419.pdf
https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/globalassets/1.-member-firms/new-zealand/pdfs/f20240301-sealed-orders-for-distribution-of-cryptocurrencies.pdf

Low Account Balances: Account holders who have an account balance equivalent to or less than the actual or anticipated cost of the trust administration as at the date of any proposed distribution are deemed to have no right to participate in the distribution of cryptocurrencies by the liquidators.

Distribution Process: The Liquidators are permitted to make distributions of cryptocurrency held on trust to account holders, subject to certain conditions including:
the submission of claims before ‘cut-off date’ in line with section 3 of the update found here includes orders that allow for top-up distributions from unclaimed holdings up to 100% of account holdings after some time  
completion of identity verification

Review Process: If the liquidators reject a claim in whole or in part, these orders set out a process where if an account holder is dissatisfied with the Liquidators’ decision with respect to their claim, the account holder may request a review to determine if the decision should stand.

The court who appointed such a liquidator should be investigated, subpoenaed, and prosecuted by a higher govenmental authority.  

How about Tom Udall (I lived near a Udall road in West Islip, NY.   Ambassador of the United States to New Zealand/Officeholder

There are no coincidences. 

Well, you have to ask yourself about the function of any administrator/liquidator that has been appointed to collate the assets of any company they are investigating. How many are primarily profit agencies that end up taking a huge amount of the assets to cover their own expenses while they investigate the matter?

After they take the funds for themselves, what remains is distributed (in most cases) unfairly across investors. If Cogito are taking advantage of the current situation it does not mean investors should give in to their offer.

I remember my balance being around $100 to $150 at the time of the hack.

Why would I want to sell that for a questionable token like they are offering that I would only be able to sell for around $5??

I mean, isn't that the math being this?

Dear Cryptopia Account Holder,

We are emailing you directly to provide an update on the liquidation plans for 2024. This update addresses:
Communications from third parties (Epic Trust Limited, the Cogito Metaverse, Principality of Cogito) and assigning/selling your claim.
The use of Cryptopia's confidential information.
The intended timeline for distribution.
An update on the claims process.
1. Communications from third parties (Epic Trust Limited, the Cogito Metaverse, Principality of Cogito) and assigning/selling your claim
We understand that third parties have contacted account holders offering to purchase their Cryptopia entitlements in exchange for an obscure digital currency. This agreement requires the assignment or transfer of coins to that third party. 

We have been contacted by a number of account holders who have been confused about whether these third parties are related to the liquidators, Grant Thornton or Cryptopia.  These communications are not from the Liquidators and Account Holders should be very wary and cautious of any unsolicited third-party offers, especially from any named above.

We would like to remind all account holders that the only channels that we use to communicate with account holders about the Cryptopia liquidation are:
• Our website, https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/cryptopia-limited/
• Emails sent from [email protected]
• The claims portal being https://portal.cryptopia.co.nz/
• Our Zendesk customer support portal being https://cryptopia.zendesk.com/

If you are unsure whether a communication is an official communication from us, please raise a helpdesk ticket in Zendesk. 

Assignment of claims
The sale and purchase agreement offered by these third parties mentioned includes the assignment of coins to that third party.

Under the historic terms and conditions of Cryptopia we note that clause 18.2(b) of Cryptopia's terms and conditions says that account holders “may not assign, transfer and/or subcontract any of your rights or obligations under these Terms.” Gendall J relied on these terms and conditions in the liquidators' first directions application in 2020 when he decided that the cryptocurrencies were held on trust by Cryptopia for the benefit of account holders.

Our position is that the Terms and Conditions remain in force, meaning that any assignment or transfer (including by sale) of an account holder's entitlements is not binding or enforceable. 

In regards to the assignment of claims we note that Epic Trust Limited, a Montenegrin company claiming to act for the Principality of Cogito, applied to be joined to the liquidators' directions application.  The Court declined Epic Trust Limited's application to be joined as a party.  The Court's judgment suggests that it is possible that:
The sale and purchase agreements might not be valid, because they do not have legal signatures on them and because the agreement is subject to the laws of the Principality of Cogito, a metaverse that is not a foreign jurisdiction recognised by the Court.
Account holders might not be able to assign their Cryptopia entitlements because of clause 18.2(b) of the terms and conditions.
We recommend that any account holders who have entered into a sale and purchase or assignment agreement with any of these third parties seek independent legal advice.

The full judgment regarding the joinder application can be read here:  Epic Trust Limited v Ruscoe [2024] NZHC 21 (24 January 2024)

2. Use of confidential Cryptopia information
In 2020, Victor Cattermole obtained confidential Cryptopia information from the High Court.  He was ordered to delete and return the information. He was held in contempt of court for breaches of Court orders relating to the information and gave undertakings to the Court intended to protect that information.

The liquidators believe that third parties related to him or controlled by him are using the confidential information to contact Cryptopia account holders.  Please be assured that we are taking appropriate steps to protect Cryptopia's and account holders' confidential information.
 
Relating to this matter the judgment and recent interim injunction orders against Mr Cattermole, Epic Trust Ltd and others can be read here:
• Judgement - Ruscoe & Others v Epic Trust Ltd & Others [2024] NZHC 165
• Interim Orders - Ruscoe & Others v Epic Trust Ltd & Others [2024] NZHC 165

Account holders should be very cautious about providing your Cryptopia account information to third parties.  The claims portal has been designed to verify each account holder's account ownership and identity, and it is very important that this sensitive process is protected. 

3. Intended timeline for distribution
We remain hopeful that most distributable assets will be returned to eligible account holders by the end of the 2024 year, but the timeframe for distribution will depend on when and what directions the Court makes following the directions hearing in November 2023. 

We encourage account holders to read the full submissions to understand the liquidators' intended distribution process: https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/cryptopia-limited/update-for-cryptopia-claimants-and-stakeholders-2-november-2023/
 
We have also provided a brief summary below.  Please note that the Court has not made any orders yet.

Directions Application – the Court heard the liquidators' application for directions about distributing the cryptocurrency to account holders in November 2023.  The application was about:
How the cryptocurrency should be distributed to account holders.
How the costs associated with administering the cryptocurrency trusts should be fairly spread across each coin type and each account holder.
That, after giving reasonable notice, the liquidators are not required to distribute cryptocurrency to account holders who do not register in or complete the Claims process despite the liquidators' best efforts.
Interim Distributions – the first distributions planned by the liquidators will be to account holders with a DOGE or Bitcoin balance of higher than a certain threshold.  The distribution will be of 50% of those account holders' cryptocurrency entitlement. 

Soft Cut Off Date – after the Court has made a decision on the directions application, the liquidators will give account holders notice of the Soft Cut Off Date. After the Soft Cut Off Date, any cryptocurrency belonging to account holders who have not registered in the claims portal will be considered "unclaimed holdings". The liquidators will use the unclaimed holdings to pay for the costs of trust administration, in the first instance. 

Phase 1 Distribution – all account holders who have a balance higher than their initial allocation of trust administration costs and who have completed the claims process will receive a distribution of their entitlement (with a deduction for trust administration costs, if there are any costs left after using the unclaimed holdings).  Subject to receiving legal directions this would occur after the interim distribution currently anticipated Q3 /Q4 2024.

Final Cut-Off Date -  the liquidators will give account holders notice that all account holders who have registered must complete the claims process.  After the Final Cut-Off Date, any cryptocurrency belonging to account holders who have not completed the claims portal will be considered 'unclaimed holdings".  The liquidators will use the unclaimed holdings to pay for the costs of trust administration. 

Phase 2 Distribution – the liquidators will recalculate how much of the unclaimed holdings can be used to pay for trust administration costs.  Account holders may receive a second distribution of cryptocurrency to refund them for all or part of the trust administration costs deducted in the Phase 1 distribution. 

We have asked the court to permit us to take no steps to distribute Cryptocurrency that has no value and is unable to contribute to the costs of trust administration.

The diagram below was attached to the submissions filed as part of the liquidators' directions application in November 2023.  It sets out a suggested timeline for distribution of cryptocurrency to eligible account holders: 

4. Claim process update
The Liquidators are advanced in the development of stage ‘4a.’ of the claims process:
#   Process   Details
1   Claims registration   Allows the registration of account holders' details
2   Identity verification   Verifies account holders' identities to the necessary verification standard
3   Balance acceptance   Provides account holders the opportunity to agree that Cryptopia records represent amounts due
4a   Asset Distribution – Wallet Address Collection   Allows eligible account holders to submit wallet addresses for each balance qualified to participate in Asset distribution
4b   Asset Distribution – Crypto-asset Return   Returns account holders assets proportional to distribution calculation
Wallet Address Collection will be launched for those qualifying and registered Bitcoin and Dogecoin holders in the coming weeks.

General information
As previously communicated to you if you are having trouble with the Claims Portal, please raise a ticket through the Cryptopia Customer Support Portal. This support portal is separate from the claims portal and can be accessed by any account holder, provided they register and click the “Sign Up” button on the page.

Lastly, we remind you that the only official communication from the Liquidators will be sent from the [email protected] email.  We will not send any communications relating to your claim from a different address.  Any communications not sent from this email are not from us and may be scams.

A New Update for Cryptopia Claimants and Stakeholders 20 February 2024
Link For The Grantthornton Update
https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/cryptopia-limited/update-for-cryptopia-claimants-and-stakeholders-20-february-2024/

well that's alot for me mate and there is alot of dead coin too

So there is no way to recieve the fund right? that's really bad for me too. i have some balance in cryptopia.
Should i must press on?

Say goodbye to your funds. First you get scammed by cryptopia, then you get scammed by liquidators and finally, if court accepts this point, you get scammed by NZ judicial system.

almost 4 year from the collapse, and almost 2 year hearing court distribution approval still in there without any real movement from liquidator
my 0.6btc is gone for nothing then lol, imagine lot of change in development many coin in there that still holding in wallet. is gonna pain job when distribution come in place,

almost 4 year from the collapse, and almost 2 year hearing court distribution approval still in there without any real movement from liquidator
my 0.6btc is gone for nothing then lol, imagine lot of change in development many coin in there that still holding in wallet. is gonna pain job when distribution come in place,