Topic: Crash Game Stats: Hot & Cold Multipliers (Read 376 times)

Hi,
A lot of work has gone into making this possible. While it may seem simple at first glance, achieving real-time data syncing, building the underlying logic, and integrating analytics was no easy task.
We went through multiple MVPs and iterations before arriving at something we felt was solid and reliable enough to present.
In the future, we’re also considering adding APIs so users can sync their own scripts with our data. This would open up possibilities for creating new strategies, like betting when it’s hot and stopping when it’s cold, adding another layer of flexibility for players.


Hi!
I appreciate you taking the time to explore the platform. I haven’t heard about MonkeyTilt before, but we’ll definitely take a look at it. We’re currently focusing on adding casinos with a 1% house edge, as anything higher would make the data less accurate and, honestly, less beneficial for players.

As I mentioned in some of my previous posts, the crash game is just a small part of our overall project—more of a showcase to demonstrate what we can do. We’ve got a lot of exciting plans in the works, and while I can’t share all the details just yet, I can say that Dice is definitely on our radar.
Also, just a reminder: you don’t actually need to play to test out the platform. You can simply observe the hot multipliers and busts live, which might give you a better sense of how the data works without taking any risks.

Using a Martingale strategy when it's hot could definitely make it more interesting! Let me know how it goes for you.

By the way, have you checked out the slots page yet? If you have any feedback on it, let me know

Hi OP, I'm gradually understanding this project after spending about 30 minutes checking and analyzing how it works. I only have accounts with BCgame and Stake but I'm not sure if they're still accessible in my location they seem not to be anymore. I don't really want to use a VPN so maybe you could add MonkeyTilt to your list of casinos.

I rarely played crash games before because I prefer Dice games. Is there any chance you'll have a project for Dice games too? Well there's not much difference between the two since both are provably fair games, right? It really just comes down to the house edge. I'll try using your platform, I think it's worth giving it a shot. There's no harm as long as I understand the risks I'm taking.

I mainly use the Martingale strategy for these types of games but of course it requires a considerable bankroll. I'm excited to start betting again, I think it's manageable to recover quickly, even with less than 10 losing streaks. 

I'm mind-blown by the tech that powers this. How did you manage to be so much in sync with the real-time data from another website? The content-type: text/event-stream renders data to the client but it's a mystery how your server is performing the reads with barely any delay. You might be perhaps reading the public web socket data and mapping that to your server but ideally, this shouldn't be possible at all. This is also possibly your selling point so good luck!

Exactly! Using this tool should help players perform better than blindly gambling. By avoiding the cold multipliers, they can significantly reduce unnecessary losses and focus on better opportunities.

Of course, how players use this data is entirely up to them—some may come up with new strategies to maximize their edge while others might simply use it to avoid bad streaks. Either way, it’s a step up from playing without any insights at all!

One thing that just caught my attention concerning this was the idea behind the use of hot and cold multiplier on crash games, i believed that not gamblers will try to avoid this as long as they are gambling and are playing the same kind of game, this will also help other gamblers perform more than they have been used to while receiving offers from the platform for using hot and cold multiplier.

Thanks a lot, Goombas !
Yes, we’re still working on the project—it’s far from finished, we just added stake.us, if there is any casino you'd like to have on it, let us know, it will take time to add them.

Regarding the crash part, we’re planning to add more casinos and keep improving what’s already there. The goal is to make it even more useful over time.

You’re absolutely right about the strategy guide or a simpler way to interpret the data. It’s something we’ve been thinking about since not everyone wants to dive into detailed stats. A suggestion-based approach or even highlighting favorable conditions to bet might be a good way to make it more beginner-friendly. Definitely something to look into.
Thanks for bookmarking the site and spreading the word—it means a lot!

Ok now this is sweet!

Ive been searching for something similar to this for way too long. Surprised this is my first time seeing it. Have you been still working on this or is it final product? Im sure slowly adding more casinos would drive even more traffic to this gem you have created, and could even gain you some passive income once its established even more. Defs will be sharing this with my gambling friends.

next step would be, what others have mentioned as well.. possibly create a general strategy guide based on current trends, or maybe even a suggestion based approach. It looks great but I feel like some users who are not so keen on the patterns of this game may be a bit intimidated by all the info you provide here. Well done on the website my man, I will be bookmarking this and using it in the future!

Cheers! 

Here’s an example of what the site is designed for—helping players identify when it’s “hot” to play. With hot streaks like these, the idea is to maximize your chances during favorable conditions.
Has anyone here tried playing crash using the site yet? If you’ve given it a shot, how was your experience? Did the hot numbers help you make better decisions, or was it just fun to observe the data while playing?

https://i.imgur.com/HScoqHY.png

Hi,
To clarify, our site isn't about "outsmarting" casinos or finding patterns in games, but rather about giving players more data to work with.
Regarding crash games, while it's provably fair and results are ultimately random, there are still probabilities to how often multipliers should appear, thats how it is, and i already explained it in past messages, ( deviations from these probabilities, hot & cold etc.. ), take is as if we aim to help players better understand short-term trends while being fully aware of the randomness involved, we are not here to promise players they'll win, but we're only offering them an additional edge while playing, which is better than blindly gambling.

Interestingly, your point about potentially spotting rigged games is valid in a broader sense, if a crash game deviated significantly and consistently from what's expected, it could raise questions about their house edge and fairness. However, most crash games are provably fair games, and they operate transparently, we can verify all of the results and you should be able to verify thats a seed will remain at a median of 1.98 (take a look at the latest bustabit seed, I believe Daniel posted some data in their topic after they renewed their seed to show that the seed was fair and the median remained at 1.98).

Again, the core of our project (the crash part) is more educational and designed for players who enjoy playing crash games, it's not a guarantee of profits—it’s a resource to help players make more informed decisions.
I believe you should give it a try, take a look at the site and the crash and decide for yourself, try to take a look few times a day to spot a time when alot of multipliers are hots, then take a look at the busts to see if it's matching.

I appreciate your comment and good wishes—it helps us think critically about how we should present and explain the site, considering, i believe, one of a kind.
Let me know if you have further thoughts or questions!

So basically you are trying to find patterns in games, that are supposed to produce random results. Good luck with this.
This seems like yet another "gambler trying to outsmart the casino by analyzing the games" tool. I'm skeptical about such projects. Maybe the gamblers could use your tool to spot rigged crash games, where the outcomes aren't completely random and there are patterns, which are showing that the crash game is scamming the gamblers.
Anyway, good luck with this project, OP.

We actually use the casino Websocket to collect real-time data and then redirect it to our frontend using SSE. This setup allows us to provide live data to users while avoiding the risk of our system getting overloaded with API calls. It’s efficient and ensures a smooth user experience, we had done alot of versions before this one without using the Websocket which weren't good enough.
As for slots, we already offer a database of slot stats here: https://edgegpt.bot/slots. Players can find detailed and accurate data for most popular slots, which I highly recommend checking out before playing.
While slots are "random" in execution, they’re built on mathematical models, meaning some slots offer better chances to profit or max win than others.
For example, if you’re depositing on a casino and took a Wager x40 (which means you have to wager 40 times your deposit), I’d suggest opting for slots like Sweet Bonanza, which has a high base game return percentage after hitting some big wins (around 50% base game hit, so you'd hit something 1/2 spin while being able to hit a bonus). It’s an excellent choice for wagering, even though max wins are less likely. At the end of the day, it’s all about balancing your preferences—whether it’s chasing a big win or maximizing returns while meeting wager requirements. With this, you'll be able to first play on slots where the 1000x happen more often, and once you hit some big hits, be able to wager "safely".

Hi !
I am the one who should be saying thanks since you're giving your feedback without anything in return, this is kinda like doing a QA contribution work !
To answer your question, we’re not worried about casinos noticing or reacting to this system for a few reasons:

• What we provide isn’t about exploiting the system—it’s about giving players better information to make decisions. It doesn’t hack or manipulate the game in any way, also the crash game is provably fair, they can't just change it either, all they could do at most is simply remove it.
• Even with trends hot & cold nnumbers, outcomes are still more or less random, and a player will most not likely follow exactly the site.The real challenge in gambling isn't just beating the house edge— it's controlling emotions, managing bankrolls, and knowing when to stop! Casinos understand that and know their edge holds in the long run, they’re unlikely to see this as a threat since even thought some players will manage to profit from it, some players will want to bet even more using this. Our site may encourage more activity across casinos, as players will likely gravitate toward games or sites where it’s "hot". If Stake, for instance, is "cold", some players may choose another platform—but for others, it’s the opposite, as emotions and habits play a significant role in gambling behavior.
• Our site is more educational than anything else—it helps players taking decisions, also as i said before, the crash game part is just a small part of our project, kinda like showcasing something bigger.
  If casinos ever chose to remove crash games because of this, it would validate our site and build our reputation within this space. For players, this might be profitable if used properly. For us, we’re focused on long-term vision rather than short-term gains

Let me know if there is anything else you'd like to know, i'll try to stay around here and come at least once or twice a day !

No wonder my colleague seoincorporation is kind of enthusiastic about the project as I was reading it and saw that it was typical of what he likes.

First of all thank you for exposing this project here and taking so much time in the detailed explanations, we rarely see that here.


Very interesting, it is logical that if we take a series of events and it deviates greatly from the average, there comes a time when it will return to the average. If we also rely on the results of a series of upcoming bets (and not on an individual bet) to make a profit it seems we have the odds in our favour. The problem I see is that if this really works, casinos will realise at some point and will modify the algorithm so that the player cannot take advantage of it.

I don't know if you know this story:

How the Pelayos Broke the Roulette Wheel: The Story of Human Endurance and Mathematics.

The clan that ruled the roulette wheel

In this context, I have a question: why sell this system instead of using it to make money? Are you afraid that if the casinos realise that you are making money with the system from the same account, they will notice and react?

Thanks for your answer edgeGPT, sockets sound as a good way to collect the data, if i think in the process i would say you connect to the same soket as the casino front end and that way you get the information like with zero delay, that's a cool move.

About the implementation of the slot, that would be cool, more than for chasing a big multiplier it would be nice in an educational mode, the fack that a slot takes 8.3B spins to show a max win is a good data and makes me avoid playing that slot.

Thanks for the suggestion, we'll definitely focus on adding a FAQ section, especially to explain all the features we offer for crash game, this will inlude details about hot & cold multipliers, "how" we calculate them, and tips for using the data effectively.



Hi !
You're right, that the house edge 1% in crash game is designed for players who continuously bet without stopping, causing them to lose in the long run.
What we aim to do is provide insights into hot and cold multipliers so that players can time their play better—playing during hot streaks and dodging/ avoiding cold ones. This approach can potentially cancel out the 1% house edge and even shift the odds slightly in the player’s favor.
The hardest part of gambling isn’t just understanding the data—it’s controlling emotions, stopping while you're in profit, and avoiding tilt. If someone can manage to stop when they’re in profit, such as climbing from $100 to $200 but quitting if they drop back to $120, they’re more likely to walk away with a win.
I totally agree, seems like everyone agree that a tutorial is really needed / some kind of FAQ; We didn't want to explain how everything is calculated because it would be complicated, we use intuitive terms like ‘hot’ and ‘cold’ to make the data more digestible for users, kinda how the casinos put the low bust in reds and the ones over 1.98 in greens. Thanks for the feedback !


Everything on the site is completely free, and there is no registration requiered. Also, we're setting up a Discord  bot to provide additional features on our disc server(setting up the discord atm). The bot includes most (if not all) commands from the popular "shiba" bot on bustabit . Over the coming months, we'll continue adding more casinos to the list. Thanks again for your feedback, it's kinda nice to have people interested in this stuff !


Thank you for the kind words, and as for your interest in how the data are collected, we are using the Websockets from those casinos and saving every rounds in our databases, hence we are using our own databases which allow use to parse past the whole seeds ( millions of rounds ), the datas are then highly accurate.
While we can't really make it open source, (as it's just a small part of our larger project), the crash part will always remain free to use.
We’re also expanding into slots analysis, where players can view detailed stats about their favorite slots. For instance, did you know "the Dog House" slot has a max win hit frequency of 1:8,333,333,333? It’s surprising that this slot is so popular given these odds, especially when better options exist with higher max multipliers and much better hit frequencies.
As for adding more casinos, we’ll only include those offering crash games with a 1% house edge for now since it takes alot of work to add one. Casinos with higher house edges (2–5%) aren’t really aimed toward serious players but rather those who don’t mind "donating" their money to the casino, since it exists better options to play crash game than playing on a 5% house edge one ... Thanks too for your feedback !

Hi,

• We have spent months working on this project, investing significant time and effort. I wasn’t aware that it might be hard to understand what the site is about, which is why I’m here gathering feedback to improve it.
• Regarding your point about deviations reverting to the average: you’re correct. However, our focus is on short-term trends, where the game may deviate significantly from the average (like a long cold streak followed by a hot streak). These trends can present opportunities if approached strategically. If it's cold and becomes hot, it'll become cold again sooner or later, thats how it works, right now i'd say the hots are spotted halfway of their final "hot streak", so you still have alot of space to make some money, and when it starts becoming cold again, the numbers won't be highlighted in red as "hot" anymore, you'll just have to quit playing.
  Autobetting with a martingale on a hot number could be nice.
  

The average casino user, plays casinos to win money, saying that they just want to have fun would be a lie.
In my personal opinion, if you had access to a tool that could improve your odds—even by less than 10%—wouldn’t you use it? For example, with a 2x multiplier, the house edge gives a 49.50% chance to win versus 50.50% to lose. If we could shift this to 50.50% in the player’s favor, wouldn’t it be worth a try? I believe we'll give more than "just" 50,50% in the player's favor, but we'll see !

We deliberately avoid delving into complex statistics or probabilities on the site because that would require explaining concepts like the Markov property, which might confuse users. While crash games may seem random, the median over a large number of games stabilizes around 1.98, meaning historical results do have some bearing on future outcomes since it's how the game actually works. People will probably say that the crash game is like flipping a coin, always 50% chance, that the previous results doesn't matter in the future rounds outcome, but at the end of the day, the median of the game has to remain at around 1,98x over a large number of rounds.

I believe the crash are modulated in frequencies and amplitudes, and that historical results have actually bearing on future results, for example, if a 100x multiplier is supposed to occur once every 100 rounds but hasn’t appeared in 1000 rounds, the game will eventually adjust to bring the average back to normal. This could mean more frequent 100x multipliers in the near future; or for example if you have only like 3-4 100x in 2000 rounds, it means you're short 17-16 of them correct? then the game will eventually "even" itself, and you'll most likely see much more 20 in the next 2000 rounds to have something like 40 time 100x over 4000 rounds.

Lastly, if we expect to make profit from this, regarding this project, we have alot of plans for it, we’re working on advanced features for crash game and much more. For now, our tool focuses on playing during hot streaks and avoiding cold numbers. How players use the data—whether they autobet, martingale, or manually bet—is entirely up to them.
I'm not fit for gambling, not fit to control my emotions and thats how the casinos make most of their money. Now if you believe you can control yourself, i believe its worth giving it a try ! I enjoy when all the big multipliers are hots because the hots are  spot on ! but at the end of the day, it'll be up to the user to manage his bankroll, how he plays, we're only providing those datas, how they use them is up to them !

Thanks again everyone for all your feedbacks, we plan to get a FAQ ready as soon as possible !

Hi,
I'd say you're right that many players believe in patterns and trends, and while it is indeed designed "to appear" random, the actual results are governed by probabilities tied to the house edge.
These probabilities influence the broader trends over a large number of games, which is what our site aims to highlight, because trying to calculate it by yourself would be exhausting !

Regarding the historical data, they are all accurate, you can verify all of them, we use Websocket connections to track and store every single round in real time and store them in our own databases, this lets us analyze millions of rounds to produce highly accurate statistics, you can literally find out the biggest streak without a multiplier since the seed started on our discord by doing !maxstreak < 3, you have tons of features there !

For the 1000x multipliers, they may seem rare, but they align with the probabilities when you consider how many games are played.

A nice project for someone that wants to play based on “pattern” even though it’s just pure random on this kind of game.

I knew many players that still believe on patterns and want to bet on hot games because they think the trend will continue. It’s not trading while this game is pure random so there’s no way it will create a trend.

I’m curious what crash game code you are using? The historical data seems too good to be true especially the number x1000 above multiplier within 10K game range.

After the first look, I agree with Cantsay that it's difficult to understand what it's all about.


Having seen this explanation I have to tell you that I don't think you will be very successful because the average casino user, especially the one who spends money in casinos, doesn't give much thought about these things. And the one who understands statistics, normally does not bet in casinos.

Now, there are two things that are not clear to me:

1. Do you expect to make any profit with this?
2. If I have not misunderstood, you are reflecting deviations from the average, but the deviations tend to revert to return to the average in the long term, so I do not see the “predictive” capacity that this could have.

In any case, I hope I have not been too pessimistic. Congratulations for the work done.

That's a really nice project, i would like to know how do you get the data from the casinos, i don't think the casinos provide that information with an API, so, i imagine that you are using some kind of bots to collect the data from those sites.

Since your protect is free have you thought about making it open source, that would be nice for the community and maybe some users can make some implementations to your code or maybe they can add mode casinos.

They should have FAQ section though. But I like the feature of hot and cold numbers. You can elaborate more about this on your FAQ section. First time to see such feature on crash. On https://edgegpt.bot/crash note, it is advisable to offer new features on these casino classics as most reputable casinos already have this kind of game. Now, your edge would be think out of the box features so you will be interesting to play with.

The feature hot and cold multipliers is a new introduction in the crash game. Haven't fully explored this feature but I guess, some players would find it interesting and helpful in betting. These days, the competition is quite tough so you need to think interesting features - what you need to offer to the community. Crash is one of the common casino classic games. So high likely that most casinos here already have the crash game. Now, to cater the gambling community in a different light - offering new features would make them curious about this game and see for themselves.

That’s a decent explanation - I look forward to watching your thread and getting to read more replies and discussion here.