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Topic: crash365.io | first provably fair Crash game on TRON | Free TRX Sign Up Bonus!!! - page 2. (Read 24550 times)

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Nevertheless, If I'm wrong and your scheme is in fact working, why not then simply create a dozen of accounts and make them all cash out at 1, thereby increasing your expected profit?

My scheme does work, but it only works under a specific scenario (the one you created: where two players are trying to cash out high). Creating a dozen accounts and cashing out at 1x would be an absolutely terrible strategy though, because the person you're "targetting" would likely cash out early and collect lots of bonuses

I didn't mean just cashing out at 1x with all your accounts. With one account you fight with other players for cashing out the last, while the army of your other accounts cashes out immediately at 1x. Does it make any difference? Besides, you don't necessarily have to cash out all at once as you can use one account for every other player in the room, cashing out after they are done (one after another)

99% of the time, all strategies can be done with 2 or less accounts. I don't think there's anything wrong with multi-accounting either.  But the real important thing to remember is that the whole bonus system is effectively "player-vs-player" and you are winning money from other players (or if you do badly: they're winning from you).  And you have to bet them by a significant margin (as you're always also paying the house-edge to play). So generally the biggest problem is finding a good time to bet  (how other people are betting, and enough volume)

Well, I can't say that I understand everything that you just wrote but thanks anyway for your thorough explanation. I hope it will be useful to someone who decides to actually try it out in practice. More power to them

Anyway, you can pretty easily play around with the min-bet and see if you can get your average bonus above 1%, which means you're making more from the bonus system than you're losing to it.  If your average cash out is 1x (there's no house edge at that multiplier) then you'd be playing profitably.  If your average cash out is 2x,  it means you need to have an average bonus of 1.5% to play profitably. If your average cash out is really high, you need an average bonus of like 1.9%

I agree, it is hard to wrap one's head around all this without actually engaging in this kind of game and getting the hang of how it works and feels

So there's a surprising amount of strategy to what looks like a simple game. (But the big problem is, you need a huge amount of action happening for it to be worth your time. If the bonus pool for a round of a game is $1, it's never going to make too much sense playing strictly for bonuses)

Yes, that's likely the only point in your explanation that makes complete sense to me. Anyway, if a similar site has an API, you can create a cash-out bot and then unleash a war of bots. Though I don't know how human players are going to feel then and whether they will like the idea of being cannon fodder for you and your army of bots. On the other hand, you can always use a script

Someone likely already did this
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Nevertheless, If I'm wrong and your scheme is in fact working, why not then simply create a dozen of accounts and make them all cash out at 1, thereby increasing your expected profit?

My scheme does work, but it only works under a specific scenario (the one you created: where two players are trying to cash out high). Creating a dozen accounts and cashing out at 1x would be an absolutely terrible strategy though, because the person you're "targetting" would likely cash out early and collect lots of bonuses.

99% of the time, all strategies can be done with 2 or less accounts. I don't think there's anything wrong with multi-accounting either.  But the real important thing to remember is that the whole bonus system is effectively "player-vs-player" and you are winning money from other players (or if you do badly: they're winning from you).  And you have to bet them by a significant margin (as you're always also paying the house-edge to play). So generally the biggest problem is finding a good time to bet  (how other people are betting, and enough volume).

Anyway, you can pretty easily play around with the min-bet and see if you can get your average bonus above 1%, which means you're making more from the bonus system than you're losing to it.  If your average cash out is 1x (there's no house edge at that multiplier) then you'd be playing profitably.  If your average cash out is 2x,  it means you need to have an average bonus of 1.5% to play profitably. If your average cash out is really high, you need an average bonus of like 1.9%.

So there's a surprising amount of strategy to what looks like a simple game. (But the big problem is, you need a huge amount of action happening for it to be worth your time. If the bonus pool for a round of a game is $1, it's never going to make too much sense playing strictly for bonuses)
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So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else

No, actually there is something you can do! Let's say you're both betting X, and your opponent refuses to cashout before you. All you really need to do is set your cashout to something like 10x, then use a second account and cashout at 1x. Doing that your expected profit will be around ~0.4% (?) and thus a profitable strategy

Well, this idea of a second account never came to me

Perhaps, I'm too honest for this kind of thing? It looks like I still don't quite understand how your scheme is supposed to work (it doesn't mean that it won't, of course). So you say I should have two accounts and with one of them to cash out immediately. If this is the case, I still fail to see how it is going to work. That account would be pretty much useless as I see it, though it may be worth trying after all

Nevertheless, If I'm wrong and your scheme is in fact working, why not then simply create a dozen of accounts and make them all cash out at 1, thereby increasing your expected profit?

But to put it in perspective, BaB originally had the same bonus scheme and through pure skilled play (i.e. +EV with good bankroll management) someone managed to net over a million dollars in a year in profit

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legendary
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So you are basically saying that the bonuses you can earn if the game doesn't crash and you successfully wait over other players there can offset losses you suffer when you are terminated, right? If it is not so, then this "skill" is utterly irrelevant. Further, I'm not sure whether there is any skill involved at all as it is still luck, i.e. another player can just wait indefinitely until he is terminated by the crash. In this case, no amount of "skill" is going to help you. All in all, it is just another level of luck at play here, nothing else

No, actually there is something you can do! Let's say you're both betting X, and your opponent refuses to cashout before you. All you really need to do is set your cashout to something like 10x, then use a second account and cashout at 1x. Doing that your expected profit will be around ~0.4% (?) and thus a profitable strategy.

Of course if your opponent is also playing for bonuses, he will notice you doing this and try take advantage of it. So it's quite dynamic, but probably the biggest part of the skill is knowing when and when it doesn't make sense to bet.

But to put it in perspective, BaB originally had the same bonus scheme and through pure skilled play (i.e. +EV with good bankroll management) someone managed to net over a million dollars in a year in profit.
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