I don't understand at all the accusations about a Ponzi scheme here. stompix, in fact, explained things very well. A Ponzi scheme is not running for 5 years in a row until their "artists" do the Houdini move. This sounds very unrealistic.
Not even Bitconeeeeeeeeeec or OneCoin -- which were among biggest crypto Ponzi schemes -- spent such a great amount of time before they exit scammed or before authorities came for some of their leaders..
Topic: 🍁 Create your own Bitcoin Mixer / Become an Investor 💲 - page 4. (Read 4155 times)
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Thanks for continuing to keep this thread active. 
Welp! They are just rude, they haven't answered any of my legit and serious questions for 20 days now, they are not even here responding, so what kind of a trustworthy service operator abandons their ANN thread for weeks not answering some concerning questions?
This service has been in operation for years and yet I heard of them just recently, so excuse me if I can't trust them blindly.
1- what kind of a business runs their receiving coins through chain analysis to check if they are "clean" or not?
2- which chain analysis they use?
3- what are they doing that makes it possible to earn %1 in a day? That means ROI in 100 days if there is demand, we all have heard the famous 100 days ROI stories aka ponzis.
4- who would run their coins through a CA service and for what reason exactly that could persuade them to pay such high fees that could satisfy the %1 per day of investors and also gives them their own profit? I know, people with something to hide would do that.
Finally, guess what? What happens if suddenly the battery on their site shows empty and after a few months of accumulating trust, they start demanding large sums like 100 Bitcoins or more, and then hit the road? You guessed right, ponzis operate just like that.
There is no natural and legit business that could guarantee %1 daily ROI.
Besides, how can icopress offer me to sell a copy of this service for 17 BTC ? Is he the owner or did the owner told him to give that offer? Can we see the conversation where that happened?
You guys are mesmerized by $500-700 monthly payments you receive, and can't think clearly, you rather continue getting paid and stay silent as long as this ponzi lasts, typical ponzi promoter mindset.
I'm sure if they run with the money, icopress would be safe, right? WRONG. I have enough evidence on him, I just hope nobody lose any money and then say: that deranged troll dig was on to something we just didn't listen.
This service has been in operation for years and yet I heard of them just recently, so excuse me if I can't trust them blindly.
1- what kind of a business runs their receiving coins through chain analysis to check if they are "clean" or not?
2- which chain analysis they use?
3- what are they doing that makes it possible to earn %1 in a day? That means ROI in 100 days if there is demand, we all have heard the famous 100 days ROI stories aka ponzis.
4- who would run their coins through a CA service and for what reason exactly that could persuade them to pay such high fees that could satisfy the %1 per day of investors and also gives them their own profit? I know, people with something to hide would do that.
Finally, guess what? What happens if suddenly the battery on their site shows empty and after a few months of accumulating trust, they start demanding large sums like 100 Bitcoins or more, and then hit the road? You guessed right, ponzis operate just like that.
There is no natural and legit business that could guarantee %1 daily ROI.
Besides, how can icopress offer me to sell a copy of this service for 17 BTC ? Is he the owner or did the owner told him to give that offer? Can we see the conversation where that happened?
You guys are mesmerized by $500-700 monthly payments you receive, and can't think clearly, you rather continue getting paid and stay silent as long as this ponzi lasts, typical ponzi promoter mindset.
I'm sure if they run with the money, icopress would be safe, right? WRONG. I have enough evidence on him, I just hope nobody lose any money and then say: that deranged troll dig was on to something we just didn't listen.
So basically not only they are getting away with the ban by exploiting a loophole, they are now offering at least %30 ROI per month? Is mining, trading that profitable? This looks like a money grab, imagine if they can just get away with 5 BTC, that would be a good money for them, and since they advertise here even after the ban, they have the perfect legitimacy to even grab more than that. This smells like a scam. Or you know, just a honeypot or just a ponzi.
When you try to highlight things with red lines be careful to not cross things that invalidate your theory, one might think you have an agenda..
See that thing about 12 hours? Jambler is not holding your money for a month and then pays 30%, you get an average of 1% on a trade, you do one each day and you might end up with 30% , that assuming you have clients. It's up to, you can make 1% or even zero if you have no offers!
So, since they've been operating since 2018 they had about 750 cycles (assuming max limit time of 48h) to scam someone, yet they didn't.
https://[banned mixer]/faq.php#faq-1.3
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How fast does return on investment happen?
Everything depends on a current demand. When the platform experiences a strong need for funds, return on investment can be minimal and reach 2 hours. If a demand for investment is low, an average time of return on investment may be 48 hours or more. We assume that return on investment may take 12 hours on the average.
Everything depends on a current demand. When the platform experiences a strong need for funds, return on investment can be minimal and reach 2 hours. If a demand for investment is low, an average time of return on investment may be 48 hours or more. We assume that return on investment may take 12 hours on the average.
I know you've been low lately on trolling material but common, you can do better!
Take a break from here and enjoy the P&S section, I'm sure there is something in that cesspool that might keep you entertain for a month or so.
In their page, look.
What the page says is that you can earn up to 34%. In other words, you can earn between 1% and 34%. It does not guarantee this profitability. This will certainly depend on the money invested and the volume of business that the platform has.
In their page, look.
So basically not only they are getting away with the ban by exploiting a loophole, they are now offering at least %30 ROI per month? Is mining, trading that profitable? This looks like a money grab, imagine if they can just get away with 5 BTC, that would be a good money for them, and since they advertise here even after the ban, they have the perfect legitimacy to even grab more than that. This smells like a scam. Or you know, just a honeypot or just a ponzi. People are keeping it quite because they might lose their future garbage posting opportunities. 😉 protecting the community my ass.
In their page, look.
Hi! i have a few question about this. And i hope anyone can enlight me.
1- How is gonna be refused the BTC the investor send if they comes from a stock exchanges? Or stock exchanges also sends "dirty" BTC?
2- That 34% of monthly retun is calculated on BTC? So if i put 1 BTC at the end of the month and maxim the invest im gonna have 1.34 BTC?
Anyways i think is a very good model of business, and i dont think it fells into a normal mixing services.
1- How is gonna be refused the BTC the investor send if they comes from a stock exchanges? Or stock exchanges also sends "dirty" BTC?
2- That 34% of monthly retun is calculated on BTC? So if i put 1 BTC at the end of the month and maxim the invest im gonna have 1.34 BTC?
Anyways i think is a very good model of business, and i dont think it fells into a normal mixing services.
"Our algorithm involves the sale of obviously clean coins from cryptocurrency exchanges to partners using our platform."
In other words, you are a mixing platform, then why bother ban mixers here, right? Have an announcement thread that says you are a mixer, then when the ban comes, change a few things and continue as usual. 😉
We are the first platform that allows anyone to create their own business and profit from cryptoanonymization services, you can become both a partner and an investor. itself does not interact directly with clients. This approach is very similar to a referral program and avoids conflicts of interest between the platform and partners. Our algorithm involves the sale of obviously clean coins from cryptocurrency exchanges to partners using our platform.
In a word, Jambler purchases output transactions from cryptocurrency stock exchanges and/or miners, verifies their quality and resells them to partners who, in turn, interact with end clients. The purpose of our work is to ensure safety for cryptocurrency owners and security for their savings.
Can I trust you with my money?
All ..... participants, partners, sellers (investors) and end users are protected by the platform against accidental errors or deliberate actions. All incoming transactions are confirmed with letters of guarantee signed with PGP. To check a letter of guarantee, install a PGP client (for example, PGP4Win), import a public key of ........ from the website to the installed client and verify a digital signature.
How can I create my own business?
It is very simple! You do not have to implement mixer algorithms by yourself or seek for finance to form operating assets, we did that for you.
Why is it profitable for me to use ...... for investment?
Firstly, we have a stable demand for transactions from stock exchanges for which we are ready to pay a bounty. ........ constantly purchases output transactions from Bitcoin stock exchanges and provides a bonus of 1% for that. An average time of return on investment is 12 hours. Secondly, our business model is transparent. It demonstrates clearly from which funds pays commission fees to sellers/investors.
To eliminate risks of getting a cryptocurrency of questionable origin, all investor Bitcoins are checked by the platform scoring system, including blockchain analysis. Transactions which have passed the check, get into the system and transaction which have failed the check, are returned to a customer from the same wallet. This stage makes it possible to terminate attempts of unfair investors to use an investment admittance as a mixer in order to clear their money and gain profit at the same time. ........ does not capitalize on return of cryptocoins which haven’t passed the scoring check, it is a necessary security measure.
What are stock exchanges supported?
Poloniex, Binance, Korbit, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Pbit, GDAX, Okcoin, Kraken, Gemini, BTCC, CEX.IO, itBit, Simex, Lakebtc, Exmo, Bitbay, Livecoin.
We are ready to be of service to you 24h a day during the entire period of cooperation. Our motto is anonymity, speed and reliability. We value our reputation and your trust. Stay in touch and check for updates. Create your profitable Bitcoin mixer and start writing your very own success story with ........
if I'm not mistaken, you provide free mixing software and even facilitate all the operations yourselves, all we need to do is to pick a name, register a domain and we are good to go? Truly amazing and innovative, I wish we had such opportunities on other services as well. Consider me your new fan/client.😉
I posted 3 days ago but no answer so far, what a terrible PR team you guys have, I'm interested in partnering with you, so I have many questions, like how do I anonymously register and handle domain names? since I can start for free, can I also have several mixers for free? Will you then list all my services as your partners?
Please note my trust rating, I'm an outcast, unwanted, hated, I want to earn honestly, because I know you check every coin before mixing them and if they have issues you'd send them back, so there is no legal issues by partnering with you. do also note that I know many powerful people, world stage kind of people. If I tell you only one name, you'd be shocked for days. 😉
Edit: friends, I have some good news to share, [banned mixer] just received a green light to operate here. I'm excited.🤑
Second edit: it seems you guys aren't serious businessmen, from an outsider perspective, it's like this is an exit scam of some sort, it's been 5 days and nobody seems to be active here, I'd advise people to stay away from this service and their partners for the time being.
In other words, you are a mixing platform, then why bother ban mixers here, right? Have an announcement thread that says you are a mixer, then when the ban comes, change a few things and continue as usual. 😉
We are the first platform that allows anyone to create their own business and profit from cryptoanonymization services, you can become both a partner and an investor. itself does not interact directly with clients. This approach is very similar to a referral program and avoids conflicts of interest between the platform and partners. Our algorithm involves the sale of obviously clean coins from cryptocurrency exchanges to partners using our platform.
In a word, Jambler purchases output transactions from cryptocurrency stock exchanges and/or miners, verifies their quality and resells them to partners who, in turn, interact with end clients. The purpose of our work is to ensure safety for cryptocurrency owners and security for their savings.
Can I trust you with my money?
All ..... participants, partners, sellers (investors) and end users are protected by the platform against accidental errors or deliberate actions. All incoming transactions are confirmed with letters of guarantee signed with PGP. To check a letter of guarantee, install a PGP client (for example, PGP4Win), import a public key of ........ from the website to the installed client and verify a digital signature.
How can I create my own business?
It is very simple! You do not have to implement mixer algorithms by yourself or seek for finance to form operating assets, we did that for you.
- Register on the ..... website as a partner, specify a BTC wallet for profit receipt and your mixer commission, configure an automated withdrawal of funds and enter a project name. The platform will generate BTC addresses, issue letters of guarantee on your behalf, control monetary flows and transfer profits to you.
- Develop website design of your own mixer or use a template which we have prepared for you. In your personal account you can find HTML templates for Tor and Clearnet mixer version, PHP gateway to connect to our system. Download and upload them to your hosting.
- Your mixer is ready for operation, all that is left for you to do is to attract clients. You will get interest income from every transaction. You will get Jabber or Telegram notifications of new requests and transaction execution via your mixer from the platform.
Why is it profitable for me to use ...... for investment?
Firstly, we have a stable demand for transactions from stock exchanges for which we are ready to pay a bounty. ........ constantly purchases output transactions from Bitcoin stock exchanges and provides a bonus of 1% for that. An average time of return on investment is 12 hours. Secondly, our business model is transparent. It demonstrates clearly from which funds pays commission fees to sellers/investors.
To eliminate risks of getting a cryptocurrency of questionable origin, all investor Bitcoins are checked by the platform scoring system, including blockchain analysis. Transactions which have passed the check, get into the system and transaction which have failed the check, are returned to a customer from the same wallet. This stage makes it possible to terminate attempts of unfair investors to use an investment admittance as a mixer in order to clear their money and gain profit at the same time. ........ does not capitalize on return of cryptocoins which haven’t passed the scoring check, it is a necessary security measure.
What are stock exchanges supported?
Poloniex, Binance, Korbit, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Pbit, GDAX, Okcoin, Kraken, Gemini, BTCC, CEX.IO, itBit, Simex, Lakebtc, Exmo, Bitbay, Livecoin.
We are ready to be of service to you 24h a day during the entire period of cooperation. Our motto is anonymity, speed and reliability. We value our reputation and your trust. Stay in touch and check for updates. Create your profitable Bitcoin mixer and start writing your very own success story with ........
if I'm not mistaken, you provide free mixing software and even facilitate all the operations yourselves, all we need to do is to pick a name, register a domain and we are good to go? Truly amazing and innovative, I wish we had such opportunities on other services as well. Consider me your new fan/client.😉
I posted 3 days ago but no answer so far, what a terrible PR team you guys have, I'm interested in partnering with you, so I have many questions, like how do I anonymously register and handle domain names? since I can start for free, can I also have several mixers for free? Will you then list all my services as your partners?
Please note my trust rating, I'm an outcast, unwanted, hated, I want to earn honestly, because I know you check every coin before mixing them and if they have issues you'd send them back, so there is no legal issues by partnering with you. do also note that I know many powerful people, world stage kind of people. If I tell you only one name, you'd be shocked for days. 😉
Edit: friends, I have some good news to share, [banned mixer] just received a green light to operate here. I'm excited.🤑
Second edit: it seems you guys aren't serious businessmen, from an outsider perspective, it's like this is an exit scam of some sort, it's been 5 days and nobody seems to be active here, I'd advise people to stay away from this service and their partners for the time being.
What risks does [banned mixer] face when it offers mixing platform to its clients? What would happen to [banned mixer] if Sinbad.io was their customer and was using their coins/platform? Will the seizure of one of [banned mixer]'s current partner mixer website result in problems for [banned mixer]? I think, this is not only interesting question for me but for [banned mixer] owners, partners and investors too. I hope you all feel alright to discuss about it.
Beware of phishing. There is only one single original ".io" site (including the tor version) and both links are in the OP.
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More than a week has passed since 03.05.2023, but my bitcoins have not returned yet. Terrible service, I do not advise anyone to invest their bitcoins.
xandry, I'll try contacting Jambler and get back here with an answer. More than a week has passed since 03.05.2023, but my bitcoins have not returned yet. Terrible service, I do not advise anyone to invest their bitcoins.
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More than a week has passed since 03.05.2023, but my bitcoins have not returned yet. Terrible service, I do not advise anyone to invest their bitcoins.
More than a week has passed since 03.05.2023, but my bitcoins have not returned yet. Terrible service, I do not advise anyone to invest their bitcoins.
Why did this happen? Did I do something wrong?
Nah, you did nothing wrong. It's just your BTC are not swag enough
Basically, when someone sends BTC to the platform, the system checks how "clean" are the bitcoins with a blockchain analysis.
If the transaction is considered "clean", the funds go to the pool
If not, it's refunded to the user (minus network fees)
Otherwise, why to use a mixer and pay the fees, if you can can clean your BTC for free with [banned mixer] and on the top make a profit?
It's set up to avoid abuses and to receive "clean" BTC
Your transaction hasn't been accepted, as you can guess with the scoring...
In such case, the funds are returned to the same wallet. Hence the "." instead of the adress.
Surely something not configured correctly but yes you will get them back of course ^^
no idea about the estimated time
Why did this happen? Did I do something wrong? In such case, the funds are returned to the same wallet. Hence the "." instead of the adress.
Surely something not configured correctly but yes you will get them back of course ^^
no idea about the estimated time
What does it mean? I sent a small amount in bitcoins to the address for the deposit, and at night I received a notification about the recharge, but there is no address of my wallet for the refund. Will I even get them back?
Your transaction hasn't been accepted, as you can guess with the scoring...
In such case, the funds are returned to the same wallet. Hence the "." instead of the adress.
Surely something not configured correctly but yes you will get them back of course ^^
no idea about the estimated time
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[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [02.05.2023 14:53]
Please send your bitcoins to:
3NqZ...3jRn
[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [02.05.2023 14:53]
Your guarantee letter:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
[banned mixer] has generated the address: 3NqZY17x7iib5nvLjsyfFJEfzsxFjX3jRn
Your coins + profit of 1% will be sent to the forwarding address bc1qyjtqzzt95f6fvj06aq4r4k2h245gmkm5dgcp9q.
Expected turnaround time: 48+ hours.
Maximum amount: 0.
This offer is valid for 10080 minutes from 2023-05-02 14:54:48 GMT.
If your transaction fails the check you will be charged a 0.0% fee for transaction + 0.003 BTC.
PGP fingerprint: 63DFE7F602E8C7D50B1D2340FDAEC8327BBC8E99.
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
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[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [02.05.2023 14:53]
ATTENTION! At the moment the demand for investment is low, an average time of return on investment may exceed 48 hours. We're unable to guarantee any exact return time.
[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [03.05.2023 0:43]
Incomming transaction to:
3NqZ...3jRn amount: 0.00716618 BTC
[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [03.05.2023 0:43]
Scoring is FAILED! Address: 3NqZ...3jRn
Amount 0.00716618 BTC excluding fee 0.003 BTC+0.0% will be returned to address:
.
Please send your bitcoins to:
3NqZ...3jRn
[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [02.05.2023 14:53]
Your guarantee letter:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
[banned mixer] has generated the address: 3NqZY17x7iib5nvLjsyfFJEfzsxFjX3jRn
Your coins + profit of 1% will be sent to the forwarding address bc1qyjtqzzt95f6fvj06aq4r4k2h245gmkm5dgcp9q.
Expected turnaround time: 48+ hours.
Maximum amount: 0.
This offer is valid for 10080 minutes from 2023-05-02 14:54:48 GMT.
If your transaction fails the check you will be charged a 0.0% fee for transaction + 0.003 BTC.
PGP fingerprint: 63DFE7F602E8C7D50B1D2340FDAEC8327BBC8E99.
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
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[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [02.05.2023 14:53]
ATTENTION! At the moment the demand for investment is low, an average time of return on investment may exceed 48 hours. We're unable to guarantee any exact return time.
[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [03.05.2023 0:43]
Incomming transaction to:
3NqZ...3jRn amount: 0.00716618 BTC
[banned mixer] service & verification bot, [03.05.2023 0:43]
Scoring is FAILED! Address: 3NqZ...3jRn
Amount 0.00716618 BTC excluding fee 0.003 BTC+0.0% will be returned to address:
.
What does it mean? I sent a small amount in bitcoins to the address for the deposit, and at night I received a notification about the recharge, but there is no address of my wallet for the refund. Will I even get them back?
I apologize for the offtopic, but it is to leave the suggestion of uploading the images in the new service created by me for images destined for BitcoinTalk, here: TalkImg.com
I hope you can resolve your question regarding the deposit.
What does it mean? I sent a small amount in bitcoins to the address for the deposit, and at night I received a notification about the recharge, but there is no address of my wallet for the refund. Will I even get them back?
I have installed the script, worked okay, than stop worked on tor, after reinstalled, nothing worked anymore, I have sent an email but I get an error. So maybe they have some issues.
I'll try to find out what I can. In the meantime, try asking in their official group.
Code:
https://t.me/jambler
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