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legendary
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April 08, 2019, 09:46:33 AM
#50
I often hear people about complexity vs. length when talking about password security.

There is a simple answer to this: length.


Lets look at it:

Complexity:
We got a charset of 26 (lower case letters) + 26 (upper case letters) + 10 (numbers) + 32 (special characters) = 94
Now with a 'normal' password length (8 chars) we got 6.095.689.385.410.816 possibilities.

Length:
If we look at lowercase letters only, we got a base of 26.
A password with a length of 12 has 95.428.956.661.682.176 different combination and already is about 15 times stronger than a complex password with 8 chars.


Increasing the exponent (charsetlength) is way more efficient than increasing the base.

A lowercase password with the length of 12 is hardly arguable better memorizable than a 8 char password using lower+uppercase, numbers and special chars.


So, if you want to create a strong password, rather pass on complexity, and increase the length by a few more characters.
newbie
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April 07, 2019, 10:56:50 AM
#49
Strong password is not enough to feel safe even if it is created with divers signs. It is good to look for exchanges which have high security standards, for example CoinDeal. You are informed about every login attempts on your email also confirmations are needed if you want to withdraw cryptocurrency.
legendary
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April 06, 2019, 11:34:54 PM
#48
How do you even remember these passwords then if so many cap and lower case letters?
By using a trusted password manager. One strong password to hold many other strong passwords.

Repeating the same password is dumb, and using a weak password is also dumb. So that's (IMO) the best solution.

in addition to this, there is always the good old method of using pen and paper to create a hard copy of your passwords. although this method is susceptible to physical theft but it still is a good way of securing your passwords if you keep that paper in a safe place that nobody can access.
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April 06, 2019, 08:43:48 PM
#47
How do you even remember these passwords then if so many cap and lower case letters?
By using a trusted password manager. One strong password to hold many other strong passwords.

Repeating the same password is dumb, and using a weak password is also dumb. So that's (IMO) the best solution.
Yep, trusted password manager may help manages password, I think a strong password should be of 8-16 digits. Generally, the password should be like the picture below.
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legendary
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April 06, 2019, 07:25:33 PM
#46
How do you even remember these passwords then if so many cap and lower case letters?
By using a trusted password manager. One strong password to hold many other strong passwords.

Repeating the same password is dumb, and using a weak password is also dumb. So that's (IMO) the best solution.
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April 06, 2019, 07:58:10 AM
#45
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April 06, 2019, 03:23:42 AM
#44
There are many random password generators available on internet which is much stronger than any characters were are thinking and if you pick 64 character password means it is impossible for anyone to crack it but please save your password copy as hardcopy saving on your system or in any clouds will make the condition worse.
sr. member
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April 06, 2019, 12:50:26 AM
#43
I watched a lecture on that topic some time ago. It said that the main thing about password is in its length and the randomness of the used words. They said something like: sunnyflyuingpotatoesholiday is aslmost as hard to crack as the ones with symbols and numbers. Don't know if it's true, but the lecture was persuasive)
Giving random special characters and numbers together with letters for me is much safer than a long letters password.i wan hacked once in my online game thats why now i am more particular in my passwords creation for the assurance of not becoming a victim again

How do you even remember these passwords then if so many cap and lower case letters?
Its your stupidity if you dont come to remember a passwod that you are the one who created,ofcourse for the beginning you need to write if down so you wond forgot that soon
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April 05, 2019, 06:22:14 PM
#42
How do you even remember these passwords then if so many cap and lower case letters?
It's not a big problem to remember the passwords. I know that you want to ask about what if I forgot my password?, there is a simple solution to remember your passwords by writing it down on a piece of paper then keep it safe and if it happens that you forgot your password, all you have to do is check the password you have wrote in the piece of paper.
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April 05, 2019, 01:20:58 PM
#41
How do you even remember these passwords then if so many cap and lower case letters?
member
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April 04, 2019, 11:33:57 AM
#40
Creating a strong password is good to secure your account and keep it safe. But, there are have other ways, that hacker can steal your password. They can steal by use phising, keylogger, brute force and many more to steal your password.
I think you can add autenthication to add more secure your account.
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April 04, 2019, 09:01:21 AM
#39
I think this topic was useful here so I am just wanting to bump this thread as it has been given the chance to get merit.

Anyway, I just remember this and was able to apply it after the seminar. So far it is effective though others had given also their input which is also good. But, to those who are not really that techie and wish about knowing good password then you can start reading the post again and see the image I posted.
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November 14, 2018, 06:58:42 AM
#38
Thanks for your nice post with an informative photo. Yes, the password is one of the most serious issues for creating an account and it should be strong as no one can break it. But for making secure my wallet and information I generally like to use a password manager that's why I have been using LastPass and KeePass password manager.
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November 04, 2018, 11:04:02 AM
#37
To create strong password you can use https://passwordsgenerator.net/
From https://passwordsgenerator.net/ you can get random and strong password which no one can imagine and also it is easy to generate. You can create password by combine of Symbols, Numbers, Lowercase Characters, Uppercase Characters. Also while generating password you can exclude Similar Characters as well as Ambiguous Characters.
And even you can select how many characters the password will be!
Check the Op's provided image the password you stated is the same as  the op's provided image that contains Uppercase, Lowercase, numbers and more. Using the password generator is also a good idea to choose a strong password but for me i'll use password generator as my guide on what to add when making a password. I prefer creating my own password that is based on internet or generator but I won't use passwords from passwords generators.
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November 04, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
#36
To create strong password you can use https://passwordsgenerator.net/
From https://passwordsgenerator.net/ you can get random and strong password which no one can imagine and also it is easy to generate. You can create password by combine of Symbols, Numbers, Lowercase Characters, Uppercase Characters. Also while generating password you can exclude Similar Characters as well as Ambiguous Characters.
And even you can select how many characters the password will be!
member
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November 04, 2018, 08:20:26 AM
#35
I think the best way to select a strong password is to let Google Chrome or Safari choose it for you.
They have "suggested password" option whenever you want to create an account.
They create a crazy complicated password and suggest it to you, and you just have to say yes.
Then they save it for you on your Gmail. You just have to make sure your Gmail account password is strong and turn on the extra security feature for it to make sure you don't loose it.
jr. member
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November 04, 2018, 08:14:30 AM
#34
The longer the password and the more randomness of letters and numbers in it, the harder it is to crack it, as fraudsters are looking for logically constructed passwords. Therefore, keep in mind)
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legendary
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October 22, 2018, 06:32:44 AM
#33
I think this is great, but if you're someone like me, creating it isn't the problem... remembering it is!

Password managers exist. It makes it a lot easier since you only need to memorize one complex password- your master password. Everything else: you other passwords, will be generated and stored on the password manager itself.

Lookup KeePass2. It blows my mind why people still don't use password managers.

Its debatable, that is according to this article: Overall Security of Password Managers Debatable, Cracking Firm Says. I'm old school anyhow, I would rather write down my password or memorize everything instead of using password manager.

Yes. It definitely depends. Using a password manager is pretty useless if your master password itself is weak, and it the password database you're using is in the cloud. If done well, using a password manager is definitely better in my opinion.

Writing down your password is definitely safer. No question about that. But would I memorize or write down every single password I use online? Knowing that I have more than 30 accounts online, hell no. Not to mention that I have to type in a 40-character password every time I have to login to a specific website? Nope. Not a single chance I'm doing that. Using the pen and paper method is pretty much only feasible if you have only a few accounts(probably 5 max). Imagine writing all 30 different 40-character passwords on paper. Thinking about it alone makes me nauseous; let alone memorizing every single one.

Another thing on the pen and paper method. If you have lots of accounts, you'd have to write every single password; the margin for error is pretty high in my opinion. Not to mention you'd have to make multiple copies if ever you lost your original copy. The percentage chance of you messing up/missing a single character of a single password is definitely not zero.
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October 22, 2018, 06:16:59 AM
#32
You can test your password on this website https://howsecureismypassword.net/
NEVER enter any of your password anywhere else than the original website where you use it! This is how you lose your security.

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for exemple : ilovebitconsomuch

take  23 million years to crack !  Grin
Just like the examples in the OP, this isn't true! It's a very dumb method to estimate the cracking time for dictionary words as if it's random characters.
Scientific paper Speed Optimizations in Bitcoin Key Recovery Attacks gives some examples (page 6) of brain wallet passwords they cracked:
1.  say hello to my little friend
2.  to be or not to be
3.  Walk Into This Room
4.  party like it’s 1999
5.  yohohoandabottleofrum
6.  dudewheresmycar
7.  dajiahao
8.  hankou
9. {1summer2leo3phoebe
10.  0racle9i
11.  andreas antonopoulos
12.  Arnold Schwarzenegger
13.  blablablablablablabla
14.  for the longest time
15.  captain spaulding
According to the website you showed, these passwords would be impossible to crack. In reality, a smart attacker can crack them.
To prevent this, you'll need to have a password with random characters, and for that, you'll need a password manager.
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October 20, 2018, 08:57:23 AM
#31
You can test your password on this website https://howsecureismypassword.net/

It's show you how long is take for a computer to crack it

for exemple : ilovebitconsomuch

take  23 million years to crack !  Grin
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