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legendary
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June 19, 2017, 10:35:47 PM
#7
Did you notice that derivatives basing on ETH together with ETH may create a centralized role of ETH? This model is called 'creeping' war - step by step dethronement of BTC.

Nothing will be the same. Graham's Law in force:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham%27s_law

Interesting points, OP. Good use of applied economics. If there is an attempt being made to dethrone BTC, it may be that a creeping war is only one front. Miner centralization, fork, legislation in the form of senate bill 1241 & other angles could represent other fronts to dethrone or subvert bitcoin.

Arbitrage and business models revolving around it where any outcome results in victory could represent the preferred way of doing business these days with an illusion of choice paradigm signifying victory/defeat in each option placed on the table.

Interesting info on ethereum I haven't seen posted much before.

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Big Business Giants From Microsoft to J.P. Morgan Are Getting Behind Ethereum

Thirty big banks, tech giants, and other organizations—including J.P. Morgan Chase, Microsoft, and Intel—are uniting to build business-ready versions of the software behind Ethereum, a decentralized computing network based on digital currency.
The group, called the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance, is set to debut at a summit in Brooklyn, New York on Tuesday, during which members J.P. Morgan Chase (JPM, +2.14%) and Banco Santander (SAN, +0.91%) are scheduled to demonstrate a pilot of the financial technology as it exists today. The pair plan to show off a "spot trade" on the foreign exchange market for global currencies using an adaptation of Ethereum as the settlement layer.

Ethereum uses a blockchain, often referred to as a distributed ledger, to record and execute transactions without the need of a middleman. Instead of a centrally managed database, copies of the cryptographic balance book are spread across the network and automatically updated as any payment takes place.

Satoshi Nakamoto, the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin, first introduced the concept of a blockchain to the world in a foundational white paper nearly a decade ago. (You can read more about Ethereum, a more flexible and developer-friendly alternative to Bitcoin with its native cryptocurrency, Ether, in this Fortune feature.)

The Ethereum alliance arrives as a challenger to several other extant blockchain ventures. The R3 consortium, for example, counts scores of partnering banks among its members, despite recent high-profile departures by Goldman Sachs, Santander, and Morgan Stanley. It has created "Corda," its own take on a blockchain.

IBM (IBM, -0.50%), meanwhile, has spearheaded another initiative known as the Hyperledger Project, part of the non-profit Linux Foundation. That group maintains the "fabric" blockchain codebase, which as been used in supply chain trials with Wal-Mart (WMT, +0.35%).
Much of the interest to date from traditional financial firms involves "private" blockchains, meaning permission from an authority is required before a party can join the network. The original versions of Bitcoin and Ethereum have public networks that anyone can join. (At press time, the market caps of their cryptocurrencies were approximately $19 billion and $1.4 billion, respectively.)

Alex Batlin, blockchain lead at Bank of New York Mellon, said that while the Ethereum alliance will focus on the development of private blockchains, the hope is that these will one day link up with the public Ethereum blockchain, which is open to all.
"That interconnection of public and private chains actually creates a very strong network," Batlin said on a call with Fortune. "Each chain strengthens the other at an exponential level."

In the view of its proponents, Ethereum's public and private networks will become analogous to intranets versus internets; they will share standard protocols, but have different configurations for privacy and security, depending on each organization's needs.

Members of the Ethereum alliance include Accenture, BBVA, BNY Mellon, BNP Paribas, BP, Cisco, Credit Suisse, ING, Thomson Reuters, and UBS. Also joining is IC3, or the Initiative for Cryptocurrencies and Contracts, an academic group consisting of researchers from universities such as Cornell University, UC Berkeley, and Israel's Technion.

Several representatives from alliance firms cited the energy surrounding Devcon2, Ethereum's fall developer conference in Shanghai, as the focal point that led to their collaboration on this effort. Despite multiple hacks on Ethereum-based applications and a controversial splitting of the Ethereum network, enthusiasm in the network has apparently not diminished.
J.P. Morgan is responsible for developing the basis of the blockchain tech for the alliance. Called "Quorum," the bank's code has been designed to add privacy protections into the mix, among other tweaks.

The partners will help each other develop the foundations for different use cases, such as post-trade settlement, payments between banks, and supply chain tracking, while competing on applications and services built atop the networks. The top priorities for the alliance now include ensuring scalability and security.The other founding members of the alliance are BlockApps, Nuco, AMIS, Andui, CME Group, ConsenSys, Fubon Financial, brainbot technologies, Chronicled, Cryptape, The Institutes, Monax, String Labs, Telindus, Tendermint, VidRoll, and Wipro.

http://fortune.com/2017/02/28/ethereum-jpmorgan-microsoft-alliance/

sr. member
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Analysis is the key.
June 16, 2017, 06:15:49 AM
#6
Yes, it's like whole ETH is one big MLM, while BTC is just a simple vertical structure.
hero member
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June 14, 2017, 09:42:51 PM
#5
Nothing impossible. We have been seeing the universe evolve for billions of years to make itself habitable for us, so why not bitcoin be replaced by something superior? But the biggest question is, how long will it take to evolve and will be be there to witness it at all ?

So just because Etherium have good price now it will be a candidate to surpass bitcoin? To my own thoughts, a big no.

Is ETH can now be used to buy products? If yes how big is it now? Etherium high price is because of traders want to earn profit and not because of demand to it that will be used to buy products. So meaning ETH is all about money after all and not to used as currency for usages.

Im still new to altcoins. Anyone can correct me here.
The high price of Ethereum has to do do mostly with ICOs, many ICOs are being created every month and a significant portion only accept payment in ETH what that means is that people need to get ETH to buy into those ICO, the demand gets higher and then the price follows, it is not really complicated what it is happening but I think it cannot go indefinitely.
legendary
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Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
June 14, 2017, 03:59:50 PM
#4
ETH isn't the money of the future. It's different and heavily promoted right now, but sooner or later people will start taking their profits. The crash will come and then we'll see how deep it goes. ETH is speaking to those who think they missed the bitcoin train and are looking for something cheaper, but don't keep fooling yourself that ETH will become accepted worldwide as the best crypto payment system. There are people who bought it dirt cheap and they will wake up one day and say "time to buy a new house"  Wink
sr. member
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June 14, 2017, 03:58:23 PM
#3
Nothing impossible. We have been seeing the universe evolve for billions of years to make itself habitable for us, so why not bitcoin be replaced by something superior? But the biggest question is, how long will it take to evolve and will be be there to witness it at all ?

So just because Etherium have good price now it will be a candidate to surpass bitcoin? To my own thoughts, a big no.

Is ETH can now be used to buy products? If yes how big is it now? Etherium high price is because of traders want to earn profit and not because of demand to it that will be used to buy products. So meaning ETH is all about money after all and not to used as currency for usages.

Im still new to altcoins. Anyone can correct me here.
legendary
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June 14, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
#2
Nothing impossible. We have been seeing the universe evolve for billions of years to make itself habitable for us, so why not bitcoin be replaced by something superior ? But the biggest question is, how long will it take to evolve and will be be there to witness it at all ?

But in sight, we cannot see anything like that. Some people may argue some altcoins gain power. But I never agree with them.
sr. member
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Analysis is the key.
June 13, 2017, 05:39:36 AM
#1
Did you notice that derivatives basing on ETH together with ETH may create a centralized role of ETH? This model is called 'creeping' war - step by step dethronement of BTC.

Nothing will be the same. Graham's Law in force:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham%27s_law

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