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sr. member
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April 10, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
#23
My two cents: What we've seen today is a mix of a lot of attention, probably some serious DDoS-ing and alot of panic buying and selling. There's no reason BTC won't just bounce back up like after all the similar instances. It is obviously undervalued in terms of the value it needs to have for its obvious benefits in exchange, cross border, cross countries and cheaply.

But seeing the breakdown of many major BTC sites like Gox, bitcoinity and clarkmoody as well as slowness at bitcointalk we definitely need an order of magnitude better servers if not ten orders as well as serious anti-DDoS capabilities. And what about serious attacks, like coordinated hacking attacks at all bigger accounts and sites? Security needs to be upped manyfold.

Because of this lack of infrastructure, BTC still cannot be valued at $1 million. We won't be there until we have NYSE traffic handling capabilities.
+1
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April 10, 2013, 03:27:45 PM
#22
My two cents: What we've seen today is a mix of a lot of attention, probably some serious DDoS-ing and alot of panic buying and selling. There's no reason BTC won't just bounce back up like after all the similar instances. It is obviously undervalued in terms of the value it needs to have for its obvious benefits in exchange, cross border, cross countries and cheaply.

But seeing the breakdown of many major BTC sites like Gox, bitcoinity and clarkmoody as well as slowness at bitcointalk we definitely need an order of magnitude better servers if not ten orders as well as serious anti-DDoS capabilities. And what about serious attacks, like coordinated hacking attacks at all bigger accounts and sites? Security needs to be upped manyfold.

Because of this lack of infrastructure, BTC still cannot be valued at $1 million. We won't be there until we have NYSE traffic handling capabilities.
legendary
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April 10, 2013, 03:01:58 PM
#21
Shall i open a bet ?
Before 2014 someone will prove that this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c9MuuW0HfSA#!
DDOS MTGOX at least 4 times in 2013
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I am Citizenfive.
April 10, 2013, 02:42:10 PM
#20
Occam's razor and corollary, Hanlon's razor, my two favorite complementary logic tools. It'll be easy to say for sure what happened after the sites are in the clear but for now, I vote place limit orders and buy up coins. Most wished they had more a few hours ago. Nothing changed that much except we are reminded that humans are scared of the "dark" at all ages. Smiley

I do think there has been a DDOS, and it is interesting that even the forum is sluggish. But Twitter and Reddit is on fire with Bitcoin Crash topics. It's the combination of how info spreads in today's world, with the fact that it is worth significant money. So we effectively take a DDOS on Gox and make our own, twice as strong, and spread it to the whole Bitcoin ecosystem. The only site that has been hit for certain is Gox and Bitcoincharts. Those create massive panic in tandem. Maybe other exchanges too, but then if all of Gox traffic shifts to what is normally a collective 15%, they may react poorly as well. I'll be most interested of all in talking to Roman at Bitfloor. They took a hit which is very unusual. Recent upgrades didn't hold up, or DDOS there too?
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April 10, 2013, 01:40:06 PM
#19
When I saw bitcointalk timing out and giving weird errors I knew it's been on purpose.

The hoster of bitcointalk has most likely huge experience with ddoses so this must have been above average.

No, this forum doesn't have great hosting. This is most likely being caused because all of us are refreshing every 5 seconds, just like MTGOX.

Care to explain? From what I understand they are hosted at nforce.com which does have a lot of experience with questionable content and thus DDoSes.

Not to mention that 320Gbps connected capacity is not bad...
donator
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April 10, 2013, 01:20:19 PM
#18
When I saw bitcointalk timing out and giving weird errors I knew it's been on purpose.

The hoster of bitcointalk has most likely huge experience with ddoses so this must have been above average.

No, this forum doesn't have great hosting. This is most likely being caused because all of us are refreshing every 5 seconds, just like MTGOX.
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April 10, 2013, 01:05:42 PM
#17
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newbie
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April 10, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
#16
This is clearly a ddos cheap coins today!
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April 10, 2013, 12:59:27 PM
#15
What's up?
I'm not logging in to gox when it's looking like this:
https://i.imgur.com/1elLjCA.png
sr. member
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April 10, 2013, 12:57:02 PM
#14
Maybe there was a big speculator which is frightened because of mt gox new order model ^^
sr. member
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April 10, 2013, 12:52:23 PM
#13
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4. people panic sell
5. rogue trader buys it all
6. rogue trader profits.

Your thoughts on it?

What if his selloff triggers a much bigger crash.  Like one down to $100 or less.   So where does the rogue buy?  how does he know the level.   So he buys a ton at $200, then watches it crash to $100.   Sounds like a loss to me.


No, all the sites are going down b/c all the noobs are panicing and dumping.  People see the price drop and they check the forums to see if there is another glitch or something happening.  Forums crawls, Gox crawls, wouldn't be surprised if buttcoin.org start crawling.
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April 10, 2013, 12:47:29 PM
#12
Completely agree on the fact that something isn't right here.
But well, it ain't so bad to let the panic sellers sell, might make us stronger in the end

Okay, bitcoinity.org is down aswell.
Someone is manipulating the market badly
legendary
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April 10, 2013, 12:43:54 PM
#11
what?  you do not like being played by the russian mob?
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April 10, 2013, 12:38:07 PM
#10
1 problem with this idea

The dumping started 20$ before this 'lag' started

That supports the idea.  The attacker would dump in clear trading in order to buy back in the confusion that the DDOS would bring. 
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April 10, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
#9
When I saw bitcointalk timing out and giving weird errors I knew it's been on purpose.

The hoster of bitcointalk has most likely huge experience with ddoses so this must have been above average.
legendary
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April 10, 2013, 12:13:30 PM
#8
1 problem with this idea

The dumping started 20$ before this 'lag' started

Got to get some downward momentum first...
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April 10, 2013, 12:08:08 PM
#7
It might be the FED selling his massive amounts of coins to later use the press to criminalize it.
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WTF???
April 10, 2013, 12:07:04 PM
#6
Bitfloor was toast there for a bit their web, api and web socket.
sr. member
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April 10, 2013, 12:06:26 PM
#5
1 problem with this idea

The dumping started 20$ before this 'lag' started

and I was a seller at 260$ MUHAHAHAHAHHAA
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April 10, 2013, 12:05:15 PM
#4
Criminal rogue might want to pump and dump his coins only.
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