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Topic: [Critical Update] Feathercoin 0.6.4 - Hard Fork at block 33,000 - page 4. (Read 13858 times)

hero member
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That is very odd indeed and I'm wondering if it is something local if multiple computers are having the issue.

Have you restarted your router?

Can you ping and get a response from the Feathercoin DNS Seed nodes below?

dnsseed.feathercoin.com
dnsseed.fc.altcointech.net
dnsseed.alltheco.in
dnsseed.btcltcftc.com

There is no old copy of Feathercoin online. If you PM me your email address I can mail it to you.
newbie
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My wallet has been backed up. I deleted the client and the file in Appdata/Roaming. I re-downloaded the .zip and ran the client, still nothing.
Could it be something with UPnP? Should I try the  SOCKS proxy?


EDIT 1:I installed the feather coin client (0.6.4) on a windows 8 laptop I have and it too is not connecting to the network. My location is Ottawa, Ontario.

EDIT 2:I need to try the 0.6.3 client again to confirm its not the client. Any download links available?
newbie
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I pointed 4.5 Mh/s at FTC last night.
hero member
Activity: 617
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No more than 200 blocks in the sample, if you look at my table the rapid decline started at block 32450, I am using 50 block data points since then and when I chart them it has a steep gradient.

A better technique would be to use a number of days, say an average over the past 7 days. (604,800 secs) so you subtract that from the last blocks timestamp and find the closest block to it, in this case it would be block 32656  which means 181 blocks in the past 7 days or 55.69min per block average over the past 7 days.

Time would work fine now but probably not as much once we are three or four difficulty adjust in and looking at retargets every day. It would be ideal to have something that works better when blocks are going slow and fast. I think it would be safer to aim for 50 blocks at the moment and see how that behaves now and after the difficulty adjust.
hero member
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This is what I get in the console: {
"version" : 60400,
"protocolversion" : 60001,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 64.33841680,
"blocks" : 32828,
"connections" : 0,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 188.19010869,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1368285686,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00010000,
"errors" : ""
}

I have no connections to the network and out of sync. Ideas?

Can you backup your wallet.dat, then remove everything from your .feathercoin folder except your wallet.dat, start the client up again and let me know if it connects?

Try leaving it running for a while as well.

Injected 650 kHps into network. The block 33,000 becomes closer. Good luck.

Thanks Smiley
member
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Injected 650 kHps into network. The block 33,000 becomes closer. Good luck.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Many on here are very impatient. Expecting a few week old coin to have basically overnight success are delusional. FTC will only be a success when the support and development for it persists past at least a year from its launch.

4 weeks and Already a fork? Lolz

At least they now have some hardship to help build character for a real coin/community

Lets see if they can even get to the for position of 32000 as It is looking really really bad....

Of all the total rubbish that has come out recently FTC had a flash mob community feel to it

Anyway good luck..i hope u provide some diff relief to LTC.....but it is a long and hard road to call yourself a coin...everybody has to start somewhere Cheesy

newbie
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This is what I get in the console: {
"version" : 60400,
"protocolversion" : 60001,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 64.33841680,
"blocks" : 32828,
"connections" : 0,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 188.19010869,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1368285686,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00010000,
"errors" : ""
}

I have no connections to the network and out of sync. Ideas?
erk
hero member
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Can someone post a link to the 0.6.3 client? I need a client that works for now until 0.6.4 is repaired.

What's supposed to be wrong with the 0.6.4 client? Work fine fore me on Window, Mac, Linux.

newbie
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Can someone post a link to the 0.6.3 client? I need a client that works for now until 0.6.4 is repaired.
erk
hero member
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97min per block average for the last 37 blocks. The stats on feathercoin.com is still claiming it's 30min per block which is just crazy wrong.

At this rate even if the difficulty reduces from 188 to 110, the block rate will still be terrible.

We would need to put some custom code to get the time from a smaller sample of blocks. What do you think would be a suitable number for a sample of block at this point in time?

After the change transactions will move quicker and we will be able to pick up some additional miners on the way. This should restore some confidence to the market without seeing people mining just to dump. We are looking for a slow and steady recovery the first step of which is to get to block 33,000, after which we only have 264 block to get to the next change at 33,264.
No more than 200 blocks in the sample, if you look at my table the rapid decline started at block 32450, I am using 50 block data points since then and when I chart them it has a steep gradient.

A better technique would be to use a number of days, say an average over the past 7 days. (604,800 secs) so you subtract that from the last blocks timestamp and find the closest block to it, in this case it would be block 32656  which means 181 blocks in the past 7 days or 55.69min per block average over the past 7 days.
hero member
Activity: 617
Merit: 531
97min per block average for the last 37 blocks. The stats on feathercoin.com is still claiming it's 30min per block which is just crazy wrong.

At this rate even if the difficulty reduces from 188 to 110, the block rate will still be terrible.

We would need to put some custom code to get the time from a smaller sample of blocks. What do you think would be a suitable number for a sample of block at this point in time?

After the change transactions will move quicker and we will be able to pick up some additional miners on the way. This should restore some confidence to the market without seeing people mining just to dump. We are looking for a slow and steady recovery the first step of which is to get to block 33,000, after which we only have 264 block to get to the next change at 33,264.
erk
hero member
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Doesn't seem to be getting any faster to me, current block is 32837

Code:
Block  	Timestamp 	Delta(secs)	Min. per block

32000 1367773886
32050 1367778134 4248 1.42
32100 1367784431 6297 2.10
32150 1367789247 4816 1.61
32200 1367794958 5711 1.90
32250 1367800251 5293 1.76
32300 1367814493 14242 4.75
32350 1367827487 12994 4.33
32400 1367844513 17026 5.68
32450 1367882120 37607 12.54
32500 1367942063 59943 19.98
32550 1368031928 89865 29.96
32600 1368139213 107285 35.76
32650 1368240752 101539 33.85
32700 1368345509 104757 34.92
32750 1368482631 137122 45.71
32800 1368654713 172082 57.36
32837 1368871932 217219 97.85

97min per block average for the last 37 blocks. The stats on feathercoin.com is still claiming it's 30min per block which is just crazy wrong.

At this rate even if the difficulty reduces from 188 to 110, the block rate will still be terrible.

hero member
Activity: 617
Merit: 531
At this rate FtC will retarget in 30 days or so.

Actually it looks like we are picking up a bit of steam as blocks are ticking faster. We should not be sitting around for that long.

Smoothie where have you been anyway?

There have been so many coins coming out and a lot of them need your attention. This is not one of them by the way. The fact that you are chasing us now makes me think you only target coins you deem a threat. If true this puts you on par with the trolls in the troll box, I always thought you were better than them but just misguided Smiley

Back to business, I mine 35 coins a day now that I've tripled my mining setup. Looking forward to the next difficulty though it cannot come soon enough now.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
At this rate FtC will retarget in 30 days or so.
hero member
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They were all built from source.  The old version which has no issues and the new version that crashes were built on the same box, using the exact same packages.  I am going to try to recompile again and see what happens.

Did you clone a fresh copy from GitHub?

I think they have to released another version with another correction. We will never be able to touch this block within 20 days.

I agree.  At best, you'll see today's network hashrate hold up.  At worst, it will shrink by half every week as the savior miners throw in the towel.

Block 33,000 is too far out if we want to see any rebound.  It might be best to release again with a fork at 32,900.  Or even 38,500.

Carry the FTC momentum while we still have it.  It's painful to release again, I know. But waiting another 3+ weeks might kill the coin entirely. 

33,000 is getting closer. I've just got up and will now continue the mission to get us some hash power.
full member
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Please check this BushStar, there is an error in the latest update.

https://github.com/FeatherCoin/FeatherCoin/issues/6

I have been running it on linux since it came out as the backend of a p2pool server without a hitch.



Well after we built it and loaded it it was crashing every 5 minutes and restarting.  We switched back to the old build and everything was fine.  If we wait for a block to be found could this solve the issue?

Build it yourself from source.




They were all built from source.  The old version which has no issues and the new version that crashes were built on the same box, using the exact same packages.  I am going to try to recompile again and see what happens.
newbie
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I have been mining sole FTC for the past week. Have 70 coins! LTC blows.

I got the new client. It currently shows 0 active connections to the network and out of sync, but that will be resolved when the next block is found? Should I just switch back till then?
newbie
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I think they have to released another version with another correction. We will never be able to touch this block within 20 days.

I agree.  At best, you'll see today's network hashrate hold up.  At worst, it will shrink by half every week as the savior miners throw in the towel.

Block 33,000 is too far out if we want to see any rebound.  It might be best to release again with a fork at 32,900.  Or even 38,500.

Carry the FTC momentum while we still have it.  It's painful to release again, I know. But waiting another 3+ weeks might kill the coin entirely. 

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CoinTropolis
Death by further inflation of coin supply (this new fork)

OR

Death by really low hash/transfer rate (current fork)

Pick your poison. There really isn't much other options for FTC.
So basically FTC will die because you think it's crap. But then why do you folks care to pay attention for it?

Profit nothing more.

Almost got it right.  As far as a profit motive, that's fantastic. As a free market guy, profit is a wonderful motivator and I'm grateful for the opportunity to participate in growing a product. What you got wrong was the 'nothing wrong' statement.

While everyone will attach to a coin for their own reasons, mine is interest in leading a community. As someone that's established in their career, I have the time/resources to work on projects I find interesting. I've had opportunities to lead grassroots campaigns in the past, I'm curious if the same 'stone soup' approach can work in the crypto community.


You are absolutely right, Feathercoin is barely a month old. I look forward to visiting with you in a year and see where we end up.  I have teams working on everything from merchants to marketing. We've grown from a few stragglers on the official forum to over 700 strong. People dedicate THEIR time because that's where they choose to put their energy.

Not everyone needs the money. I know that's an evil phrase to say these days, but it's the cold hard truth. Some of us enjoy a great project and want to work with others to achieve it.  While some look for every reason why something won't work, I try to keep my head down and continue to work.

Too many people here get the 'lolz' watching other people work. They simply want to see others fail. Instead of finding anything being done right, they will always find the opposite. Whether it's 700 or 7000 members donating time, there will always be those that will find a reason why they don't like us. That's fine, we have a community that won't be out worked.
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