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Quote from: evershawn on July 20, 2014, 08:48:02 PM

escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48)   2014-06-18   0.00000000      Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O.
Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community
smooth 4: -0 / +5(5)   2014-04-25   0.00000000      Respected member of lending forum and scam buster
John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120)   2014-04-18   0.00000000      The neighborhood scam-buster.

KWH 1: -0 / +3(3)   2014-02-24   0.00000000      Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job!
cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9)   2013-11-09   0.00000000      This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers
Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24)   2013-07-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers
Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3)   2013-08-22   0.00000000      Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community.
Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5)   2013-07-07   0.00000000      Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed.

NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETC

Not one.

How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.

And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out.
Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you.

First of all, in my case, the damage is done. That's like saying dont get mad because your car was totaled and some drunk guy crashed in to you. If you wouldn't get mad, your car would magically repair itself. I'm venting my frustration because the damage is done and he's ruined my account for trading here and for no good reason at all.

I'm providing an example of how a single mixed up person can undermine the whole trust system by simply soliciting positive trust from the inner circle.

My only mission now is to try to put a stop to his ability to do this to other people and prevent other honest and legitimate traders here from having to be unfairly judged by him and his jaded logic. I've only had positive actual trades here, been above board with everyone, answered everyone's questions in my thread and even was perfectly willing to have meetings, phone conversations or meet in person with investors to present my deck.

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I agree that the trust system is incredibly flawed.

When someone that's never done a trade or been trusted with anything can go around ruining the reputation of people that have done actual trades with other people (like my scenario) or never done a trade with me in any way just because he's gotten some BS positives from people in 'the circle', there's some big flaws.

This jerk gave me a negative trust rating that wasn't even based on anything, go look at his reasoning... He claims it's because I 'may' delete some of his comments (which I never did) and that I was paying myself some salary in my proposed investment scenario (which was never stated). He is leaving me a negative trust rating which devastates my bitcointalk account and any chance at getting investor cooperation because the first thing they are going to see is a big red negative from some guy that's unfairly judged me based on 0 factual information.

How could anyone support this guy and his actions...?

That what I bolded. That what I bolded! Exactly what I'm saying!

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Quote from: KWH on July 20, 2014, 08:45:43 PM

Quote from: KWH on July 20, 2014, 08:45:43 PM

escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48)   2014-06-18   0.00000000      Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O.
Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community
smooth 4: -0 / +5(5)   2014-04-25   0.00000000      Respected member of lending forum and scam buster
John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120)   2014-04-18   0.00000000      The neighborhood scam-buster.

KWH 1: -0 / +3(3)   2014-02-24   0.00000000      Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job!
cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9)   2013-11-09   0.00000000      This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers
Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24)   2013-07-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers
Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3)   2013-08-22   0.00000000      Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community.
Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5)   2013-07-07   0.00000000      Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed.

NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETC

Not one.

How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.

And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out.
Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you.

And it's not "petty sniping" it's called being mad about something that you have the right to be mad about.

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escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48)   2014-06-18   0.00000000      Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O.
Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community
smooth 4: -0 / +5(5)   2014-04-25   0.00000000      Respected member of lending forum and scam buster
John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120)   2014-04-18   0.00000000      The neighborhood scam-buster.

KWH 1: -0 / +3(3)   2014-02-24   0.00000000      Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job!
cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9)   2013-11-09   0.00000000      This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers
Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24)   2013-07-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers
Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3)   2013-08-22   0.00000000      Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community.
Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5)   2013-07-07   0.00000000      Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed.

NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETC

Not one.

How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.

And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out.
Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you.

You could um... take out/give loans, sell/buy stuff, exchange currencies. All in the forum, and earn your trust like you're supposed to.

I "FEEL ENTITLED?!?!" to trust. Oh my god, unlike Vod I actually earned my trust by showing that I repay loans, don't do chargebacks, etc.
Then he basically makes all that irrelevant with his trust he got from being a "patrol man". Not even doing stuff that would actually earn one trust.

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Vod is a liar

I agree that the trust system is incredibly flawed.

When someone that's never done a trade or been trusted with anything can go around ruining the reputation of people that have done actual trades with other people (like my scenario) or never done a trade with me in any way just because he's gotten some BS positives from people in 'the circle', there's some big flaws.

This jerk gave me a negative trust rating that wasn't even based on anything, go look at his reasoning... He claims it's because I 'may' delete some of his comments (which I never did) and that I was paying myself some salary in my proposed investment scenario (which was never stated). He is leaving me a negative trust rating which devastates my bitcointalk account and any chance at getting investor cooperation because the first thing they are going to see is a big red negative from some guy that's unfairly judged me based on 0 factual information.

How could anyone support this guy and his actions...?

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Quote from: Jaaawsh on July 20, 2014, 08:34:29 PM

escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48)   2014-06-18   0.00000000      Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O.
Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community
smooth 4: -0 / +5(5)   2014-04-25   0.00000000      Respected member of lending forum and scam buster
John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120)   2014-04-18   0.00000000      The neighborhood scam-buster.

KWH 1: -0 / +3(3)   2014-02-24   0.00000000      Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job!
cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9)   2013-11-09   0.00000000      This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers
Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24)   2013-07-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers
Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3)   2013-08-22   0.00000000      Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community.
Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5)   2013-07-07   0.00000000      Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed.

NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETC

Not one.

How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.

And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out.
Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you.

Jaaawsh

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escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48)   2014-06-18   0.00000000      Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O.
Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community
smooth 4: -0 / +5(5)   2014-04-25   0.00000000      Respected member of lending forum and scam buster
John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120)   2014-04-18   0.00000000      The neighborhood scam-buster.

KWH 1: -0 / +3(3)   2014-02-24   0.00000000      Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job!
cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9)   2013-11-09   0.00000000      This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers
Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24)   2013-07-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers
Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3)   2013-08-22   0.00000000      Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community.
Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5)   2013-07-07   0.00000000      Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed.

NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETC

Not one.

How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.

KWH

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Quote from: KWH on July 20, 2014, 08:28:46 PM

Quote from: evershawn on July 20, 2014, 08:24:12 PM

Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

100% agree, especially in this case. Vod does nothing but go around judging people and marking them negative. I'd be willing to bet that he tries to leverage his positives (which seem like they've never been given for anything that actually requires any trust) to get stuff.

Quote from: KWH on July 20, 2014, 08:28:46 PM

Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

So, by your own logic, both of you are probably the same person? It looks like the train has left Realityville.

How do you think that in any way?

I know that not everyone with huge positive trust is the same person. All I'm saying is that it seems to be a club, all of Vods positive trust is from "Being a scambuster" how does have anything to do with trust? Has he handled your money? No. Did you trust him with something valuable? No.

You're all just buddy-buddy with eachother. It's like the popular kids in school, really.

And how do you think the Default Trust came about? You take a few .0001 loans, repay and you're on that list? I got most of mine from selling.

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Quote from: evershawn on July 20, 2014, 08:24:12 PM

Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

100% agree, especially in this case. Vod does nothing but go around judging people and marking them negative. I'd be willing to bet that he tries to leverage his positives (which seem like they've never been given for anything that actually requires any trust) to get stuff.

Quote from: evershawn on July 20, 2014, 08:24:12 PM

Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

So, by your own logic, both of you are probably the same person? It looks like the train has left Realityville.

How do you think that in any way?

I know that not everyone with huge positive trust is the same person. All I'm saying is that it seems to be a club, all of Vods positive trust is from "Being a scambuster" how does have anything to do with trust? Has he handled your money? No. Did you trust him with something valuable? No.

You're all just buddy-buddy with eachother. It's like the popular kids in school, really.

KWH

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Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

100% agree, especially in this case. Vod does nothing but go around judging people and marking them negative. I'd be willing to bet that he tries to leverage his positives (which seem like they've never been given for anything that actually requires any trust) to get stuff.

Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

So, by your own logic, both of you are probably the same person? It looks like the train has left Realityville.

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Vod is a liar

Quote from: Vod on July 20, 2014, 08:17:07 PM

Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

100% agree, especially in this case. Vod does nothing but go around judging people and marking them negative. I'd be willing to bet that he tries to leverage his positives (which seem like they've never been given for anything that actually requires any trust) to get stuff.

Jaaawsh

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Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)

evershawn

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Vod is a liar

Quote from: Jaaawsh on July 20, 2014, 08:13:38 PM

Quote from: Vod on July 20, 2014, 08:10:21 PM

Quote from: KWH on July 20, 2014, 08:10:58 PM

Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.

That means I'm making a difference here.

It takes 10 seconds to create a throw away account and post negative feedback on me - that is why it is "untrusted" feedback. People have been creating throw away accounts calling me a paedophile, incestuous, faggot, etc. Obviously I put a dent in these people's scams.

You are deluded. Extremely deluded.
There's plenty that say "picking on newbies", "bullying", "offering loans to newbies so he gave me negative trust"

Most of your trust ratings are red. And they're from ALLLLLLLLLL sorts of members, not just "newbie/alt accounts"

You've reviewed it all, you've come to the conclusion I am untrustworthy and you have left me negative trust. The system works!

I left YOU (that account) negative trust because you left me negative trust for no good reason. That's exactly what it says.

Maybe you were referring to your other account rarkenin, I left that one negative trust because you accidentally posted negative on that one in my rep thread when you meant do to it on Vod. Ooups.... Caught red handed?

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Quote from: Vod on July 20, 2014, 07:50:53 PM

Quote from: Jaaawsh on July 20, 2014, 07:47:22 PM

Everyone just afraid that if they get on your bad side you'll give them negative trust. Like you do to most people.

Nice guess, but if I rated a single person with negative trust that didn't deserve it, the people who have trusted me would remove it. The system is self correcting. I only have the trust I do because I always do the right thing.

I wouldn't be surprised if the positive trust you gained were from your own alt accounts.

Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.

Sure, that's a canned response from 95-99% of those receiving the negative. I have plenty myself.

I am 100% sure that not all of the ~300 people Vod has given trust too are people who deserve negative trust.

Like I've mentioned before, either here or somewhere else. I've always felt this way, I was LITERALLY TOO SCARED to say anything and attract attention (negative seems to be the only kind he gives unless it's to one of his alt accounts) from Patrolman-Sam over there.

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Quote from: Jaaawsh on July 20, 2014, 08:13:38 PM

Quote from: Vod on July 20, 2014, 08:10:21 PM

Quote from: Vod on July 20, 2014, 08:10:21 PM

Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.

That means I'm making a difference here.

It takes 10 seconds to create a throw away account and post negative feedback on me - that is why it is "untrusted" feedback. People have been creating throw away accounts calling me a paedophile, incestuous, faggot, etc. Obviously I put a dent in these people's scams.

You are deluded. Extremely deluded.
There's plenty that say "picking on newbies", "bullying", "offering loans to newbies so he gave me negative trust"

Most of your trust ratings are red. And they're from ALLLLLLLLLL sorts of members, not just "newbie/alt accounts"

You've reviewed it all, you've come to the conclusion I am untrustworthy and you have left me negative trust. The system works!

evershawn

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Vod is a liar

Guys,

Go take a look at the negative feedback that rarkenin has been leaving for people (seems to be doing the exact same thing Vod is) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

Then go look at who Vod left them for, see anything funny?

Looks like we're dealing with a guy using multiple accounts. So a guy trying to be the 'Trust' authority is using deceptive means of influencing people.... I think HE is the only person that NO one should trust here. Please, look for yourself.

I found it odd that the dude was grilling me and not saying anything about Vod, now I know why.

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Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.

That means I'm making a difference here.

It takes 10 seconds to create a throw away account and post negative feedback on me - that is why it is "untrusted" feedback. People have been creating throw away accounts calling me a paedophile, incestuous, faggot, etc. Obviously I put a dent in these people's scams.

You are deluded. Extremely deluded.
There's plenty that say "picking on newbies", "bullying", "offering loans to newbies so he gave me negative trust"

Most of your trust ratings are red. And they're from ALLLLLLLLLL sorts of members, not just "newbie/alt accounts"

KWH

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Quote from: Vod on July 20, 2014, 07:50:53 PM

Quote from: Jaaawsh on July 20, 2014, 07:47:22 PM

Everyone just afraid that if they get on your bad side you'll give them negative trust. Like you do to most people.

Nice guess, but if I rated a single person with negative trust that didn't deserve it, the people who have trusted me would remove it. The system is self correcting. I only have the trust I do because I always do the right thing.

I wouldn't be surprised if the positive trust you gained were from your own alt accounts.

Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.

Sure, that's a canned response from 95-99% of those receiving the negative. I have plenty myself.

Vod

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