Topic: Cryonics Frosbit claiming 1000Gh/s - $15K?? (Read 16494 times)
Just look into cpu overclocking. You're still limited by locked clocks and unstable vrm. But I'm guessing 50% gain.
Let's all agree this is a super SCAM, but let's say I have access to unlimited liquid Nitrogen (I do). How much of a performance gain on my Butterfly Single SC could be achieved by cooling the chips down to 100K? What are the concerns for the electronics?
-De-humidified chamber (reduce condensation on the electronics)
-Nitrogen Gas venting (reduce asphyxiation of the operator)
-Do you need to you need stabilize the board from vibrations? (I imagine normal room vibrations might crack the board or chips over sustained time at supercooled temperatures.
Imagining I can actually build a stable super-cooled setup... what are the potential performance gains?
-De-humidified chamber (reduce condensation on the electronics)
-Nitrogen Gas venting (reduce asphyxiation of the operator)
-Do you need to you need stabilize the board from vibrations? (I imagine normal room vibrations might crack the board or chips over sustained time at supercooled temperatures.
Imagining I can actually build a stable super-cooled setup... what are the potential performance gains?
Why is this garbage still being spoken about?!
nothing attracts a crowd more than a crowd
Touché
Why is this garbage still being spoken about?!
nothing attracts a crowd more than a crowd
Why is this garbage still being spoken about?!
Has anyone purchased?
I have to see it to believe it. I don't really believe in news reports now.
2800W total... BFL does 5 GH/s for about 30W, so 1000 GH/s would require 6kW. That leaves -4.2kW to condense enough nitrogen to cool it. Checks out!
Everyone knows thats how you cool things, put the energy being saved backwards through a heating element and then the liquid nitrogen, being so low temperature, turns the main ASIC into a superconductor negating loads of power draw. That's how it's really done.
2800W total... BFL does 5 GH/s for about 30W, so 1000 GH/s would require 6kW. That leaves -4.2kW to condense enough nitrogen to cool it. Checks out!
What if the images make the device look small but it really is that big?
I suppose for 1 Th/s I could live with something the size of a fridge
What if the images make the device look small but it really is that big?
As said earlier, LN2 generators are very real, they are used in labs and whatnot. The size though is what bugs me with this apparent product.
If anyone is interested, I did a post on reddit a while ago about the weird parts of what they are saying as well as a response to their later letter:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1fjwyc/crypteks_kickstarter_scam_continues_to_be_ignored/
If anyone is interested, I did a post on reddit a while ago about the weird parts of what they are saying as well as a response to their later letter:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1fjwyc/crypteks_kickstarter_scam_continues_to_be_ignored/
That's a nice one. The one we have outside our building doesn't have all the computer controls.
liquid nitrogen generators aren't science fiction. But this product surely is
liquid nitrogen generators certainly exist, but they generally look more like this...
liquid nitrogen generators aren't science fiction. But this product surely is
Anyone giving these guys money deserves what they get.
I emailed the idiot on eBay selling shares, asking him if he was part of the scam or just doesn't realize nitrogen generators are science fiction, his reply
my, my, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed??
I agree with what I think is your opinion that could be a scam. The supposed principals appear to have been directly involved with the kickstarter problem. The law firm appears to have been front and center in Cryptrade/Crypteks. The techno as claimed sounds goofy.
but, The law firm does exist, the law firm is representing Cryoniks, Cryoniks is currently using the law office address as their official address, ..
ssooo, who knows, righ?. Avalon had many scammy elements when Guo trotted his ASIC machine concept out, but then he has delivered (at least that is what I read - maybe Avalon is just another elaborate scam???). Butterfly labs, kind of in the same early stage boat, pretty pictures but are the units really shipping??? All three companies have raised their capital through the pre-order process, while unusual for real companies, appears to be within the usual for gaming companies and gaming techno companies.
I continue to dig into the reality of Cryoniks. If proves in the end to be a fabrication, then I politely refund the money and/or offer my buyers the same valued shares in my BFL machines.
my, my, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed??
I agree with what I think is your opinion that could be a scam. The supposed principals appear to have been directly involved with the kickstarter problem. The law firm appears to have been front and center in Cryptrade/Crypteks. The techno as claimed sounds goofy.
but, The law firm does exist, the law firm is representing Cryoniks, Cryoniks is currently using the law office address as their official address, ..
ssooo, who knows, righ?. Avalon had many scammy elements when Guo trotted his ASIC machine concept out, but then he has delivered (at least that is what I read - maybe Avalon is just another elaborate scam???). Butterfly labs, kind of in the same early stage boat, pretty pictures but are the units really shipping??? All three companies have raised their capital through the pre-order process, while unusual for real companies, appears to be within the usual for gaming companies and gaming techno companies.
I continue to dig into the reality of Cryoniks. If proves in the end to be a fabrication, then I politely refund the money and/or offer my buyers the same valued shares in my BFL machines.
A lot of idiots are buying or selling it on eBay
Have anyone noticed that their link to mtGox is wrong, it points to fraud website (.org instead of .com, as described there: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/two-new-mtgox-phising-websites-always-check-for-https-219284)?
https://cryoniks.com/#!/app/bitcoin/ #EXCHANGE >
https://cryoniks.com/#!/app/bitcoin/ #EXCHANGE >
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Awww..., they're just a kindly bunch. Surely they deserve our fiat.
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