Topic: Crypto betting (Read 2427 times)

I think that no matter how carefully you choose a casino website, when you go through the KYC procedure to verify your identity, your personal data will remain in some confidential casino database, one might say, forever.  And we all know that confidential personal data databases often tend to become publicly available as a result of their theft or sale by a corrupt employee or, finally, as a result of a hacker attack.  And this can happen to absolutely any casino, no matter how reputable and famous it may be. 
So, when going through the KYC procedure, it is always worth remembering this scenario of events with information that they convince you is confidential and no one will know it.

Major reason why I don't name bookies for anyone is because I have no trust for the platforms these days. Even the time they have spent in nursing the project might also be facctored into the plan right from the onset.

The best way to find out sure bookies will  be to google a list of soccer game bookies and do your diligent research on them and assure yourself that you are using a reliable platform for the bet  outcome
 

The main thing is that they are gambling site with high trust from every gambler and also have good reputation and have very large community, so you can be sure that the site will always protect the personal identity that we provide for verification.
Moreover, every trusted site that has developed into large site always has a method or always has team that can maintain all comfort and service to customers, one of which is providing protection or having layered security system to avoid data leaks.
I believe that some of the big sites here can be trusted, even though they don't provide guarantees, but what they are and how they develop can be used as proof that the site really deserves to be favorite site.
I use several gambling sites and I never mind providing personal data as verification, but I will only do this on sites that I trust, in fact until now I have never had any problems related to the data I provided.

Firstly, we ourselves always know about the risks and consequences of what we do, whether it is providing personal data or carrying out gambling activities such as playing and betting, all of which have their own risks.
But only we ourselves can take care of this or anticipate so that nothing bad happens and one of the efforts to anticipate this is to choose as carefully as possible which sites have security that is not easy to hack and which sites are trusted.
Here I will say trusted in the sense that it is trusted by all gamblers because sites that have high trust from customers make it clear that the site always prioritizes customer service and comfort.

I am not sure why you quoted my post in this reply of yours, especially since it's from July of this year.

You made a typo in your post. It's not crypto exchanges but crypto casinos. While we are on the subject, I have never considered the percentage of casinos that also have sports betting vs those that don't, but I have often come across sites that have no sportsbooks. I think it's 50 or 60/40 in favor of those with sports betting support. 

People who agree to provide their personal data to any site will not mind sharing it because they know which site they can trust. Therefore, we must ensure which site can safeguard the personal data that we will submit so that the site can safeguard our personal data properly. And even if the site is hacked, personal data remains safe because the site has a place far from the site for safe storage of consumers' personal data. But if we carelessly provide personal data to the site, the personal data may be misused by the site so that later the personal data can be used for many things.

The state is obliged to guarantee the quality of service to its citizens. However, the main responsibility remains with each person, so before they carry out verification, they must have carried out in-depth research about the site. They will also know which sites they can trust so consumers can verify their accounts calmly and safely.

All crypto exchanges usually support sports betting so visit all the sites and choose the one that suits you best. There are other popular betting sites including Sportsbet.io which may be a good choice for you. It would be easier for us to choose the site according to your needs if you could present here what kind of site you would consider for gambling. If things seem difficult for you then you can visit the popular gambling and casino sites and after visiting the gambling and casino sites you can compare one with the other and use the one that suits you best.

You do not take into account those players who, for various reasons, cannot de-anonymize their identity and, accordingly, provide the casino with their passport details, including their place of permanent residence.  Also, many people understand that the personal data provided to any site, which is considered confidential information almost all over the world, and access to this data is limited.  So, all this data, when it ends up on a third-party site, for example, a casino, still ends up in the public domain over time.  This happens in a large number of cases due to theft or unauthorized sales of personal data databases.  I would not say that such people should be classified as some kind of second-rate category of players compared to those who are required to provide KYC everywhere. 

So I say that the state is obliged to provide guarantees of quality service for such citizens, and not just those who around the world recklessly and without thinking about the consequences send out their personal data anywhere. 
And this data has already been stolen many times and appears on the darknet or even just on the Internet.

A gambler who trusts the casino will comply with the rules implemented by the casino so that they can continue the verification process and also the money withdrawal process. And the casino also knows this and will immediately complete all the processes. But shady casinos won't do it because they don't care about the comfort of their customers or the regulators. That is the reason why many gamblers are always careful in choosing a casino so they can avoid problems.

And yes, it would be best if the authorities could provide guarantees to players who can win big wins to help those players get them. Players will also always try to follow the rules of the casino so that they can gamble comfortably and calmly.

Common man, you gotta follow up with the conversations here. There are so many great sports books online. Some of which are being promoted here to know the best sports books here, just look at the sports book with the longest running signature campaign that you give you an idea of who the best of the best is. About the betting limits, I don't really know about that but whatever sports book catches your attention, visit their webpage and read their terms of services. The information you need would be right there and if peradventure it is not there, then you chat the customer support on the website, they will answer your questions correctly.

But, if the casino refuses to transfer the winnings to the player’s account due to the fact that he cannot confirm his identity (this can be for various reasons, including justified preservation of the player’s safety) and cannot pass KYC, then an appeal to the regulator  such a player cannot do either.  This is simply due to the fact that no government authority considers appeals from anonymous persons.  And for the same reasons it is impossible to go to court.  This creates a vicious circle.  And the player can only either stop being anonymous, or lose the money that he honestly won in the casino. 

I reason that the authorities need to come up with some guarantees for such players to receive fair winnings.  And at the same time, at the request of the player, remain anonymous.

The casino should allow the withdrawal process to go smoothly and not delay it because the gambler has fulfilled all the requirements so the casino must complete it immediately. If the casino delays it, the gambler can report it to the regulator so that the regulator can investigate what is wrong with the casino and why the casino is delaying the withdrawal made by the gambler. It would be a big question mark for the casino if they did something like that because the gambler has fulfilled all the requirements, has been well received by the casino, and has validated it well, too. The rules could be changed to suit the current conditions and situations so that no one has to wait a long time to withdraw their winnings. In fact, if the casino can speed up the withdrawal process without having to ask for too complicated requirements, it can give the casino a good point because crypto gamblers always look for casinos that do not make things difficult for gamblers when it comes to withdrawals and deposits.

Of course, players always want to play at ease and not think that they can expect any unpleasant things from the casino.  If the player is all right with passing the KYC verification procedure, and he transferred the cryptocurrency to a deposit in the casino and this transfer also passed the AML procedure, then, as I understand it, the casino has no opportunity at all to legally cause material damage to the player.  For example, not paying out a big win.  Large, well-known casinos probably never make the game of such a player problematic and he may not think at all about any surprises from the casino side.  But when it comes to players who maintain their anonymity.  Moreover, the reasons for this can be completely different.  To the point that the player is in a country with a repressive regime.  In this case, any game in a casino can at any moment be darkened by some unpleasant requirements for the player from the casino side.  I always maintain that something needs to be done about this on a global scale, so that anonymous players can play in crypto casinos carefree and fun.  And the casino itself would, in any case, pay the player the honestly received winnings.  Unfortunately, this is not the case in the crypto casino gaming industry today.  And this, of course, should be changed somehow. 
Maybe some new licenses with guarantees of fair transfer of money won to the player

Yes, you are right because being a trusted and popular casino will not disappoint its customers, especially since yesterday's major hacking case apparently did not shake the performance of Stake.com, so the casino is still running and operating as usual as if nothing had happened. If players can really choose the right casino for them, they don't need to worry about problems that will arise, especially when there is a hack that occurs in the casino, because the casino will protect its customers' data or funds. That's the point for us to look for a trusted casino ourselves to be comfortable gambling at the casino. Moreover, our list of casinos will be different from other people's because they are also looking for their own casinos without interference from other people. Other people can only give advice, but we have to choose it ourselves so that mistakes don't happen when we gamble later.

Someone can indeed experience an unpleasant incident while they are gambling at a particular casino, but this will not happen if they have not made any mistakes. Also, the casino can provide good service because this discomfort can occur due to misunderstandings between the casino and the gambler. But because we have chosen a suitable casino, we will not experience any problems. Everything will run smoothly, and we can enjoy the gambling games. Trusted and popular casinos will not try to cheat their customers because that will hurt their customers' trust and make them move to other casinos. Trusted and popular casinos really avoid this, so they will continue to improve the quality of their service to their customers.

Small casinos can develop when they have the trust of gamblers and have a proven good reputation plus truly satisfying service it is not difficult for them to get more loyal customers.
But most of their small casinos at the beginning of their development in business have prioritized making profit so that several undesirable things happen and make them have bad reputation and are not trusted by most gamblers.
It is indeed difficult to trust small casinos because there have been many cases of fraud and things like this make it difficult for them to develop because of the bad thoughts that gamblers have towards them.

Well some of these things are an attempt to attract interest and increase customers trust in them.
Moreover nowadays what gamblers are looking for most is reputation, service and also convenience in everything so every small casino needs to have several of these aspects.

I have already written that strict compliance with the requirements of local regulators for the mandatory verification of a player using the KYC procedure really simply deprives millions of players around the world of the opportunity to play their favorite games using cryptocurrencies and with anonymous payments.  It is clear that KYC provides an additional guarantee in case of winning and receiving money from this winning.  But it still seems to me that in the gaming industry around the world there should still be very reliable and proven casinos that will find a jurisdiction where KYC will not be a prerequisite.  And such casinos will be in great demand by a huge number of players trying to maintain anonymity.  It would be great if some islands, such as Curacao, came up with issuing licenses for casinos in which the KYC procedure is definitely and guaranteed never to be required.  I do not rule out that at present even new regions where casinos and other organizations of the global gambling industry are licensed may appear.

Of course, the things when it comes to making or having the best experience with a casino are many, I wouldn't say that it can be the best option, but in the end of all this, I prefer my casino which is stake.com, it is a casino that They seem very reliable, that although they recently received a big hack and they stole some money, well a lot of money , they did not Compromise on Clients' money, like some do, when a robbery happens, they close the caisno, They take the players' funds and goodbye, that doesn't happen here, things are very taken to the level of honorability and having a good gaming experience and in the casino, where people's Funds are Respected and that makes it a lot better and more responsible, something that one as a player Seeks to avoid having problems with any type of things that are money, when problems arise over money it is something that is very strong, there are companies that change and become others.

A person who always seeks to have the best experience with a casino should know that they can face many unpleasant things, when there is not the information required to do things better, they can fall into a scam casino, which there are many. So in this order of ideas, it is always advisable before looking for a better experience, to look for the casinos that are more reliable, with a higher reputation and that can go down a path where you basically have a better experience but in terms of reliability, which is very important. stand out, I'm not saying that the other casinos are bad, but they should have some good comments, a good reputation, and here in the forum this is highlighted a lot, which means that many susaiuroops are always in these casinos and living great experiences , where they will not have anything else to say, now they can complain a lot about the issue of KYC, but that is something that is already a law that is here Because KYC is the one that already indicates something obligatory, for every casino.

That is the task of each gambler, especially novice gamblers without experience in finding a suitable casino. But if he is on this forum, he can find several trusted casinos that have even been operating for a long time to avoid scams and gamble safely and comfortably. Getting a trusted, safe, and comfortable casino cannot always follow what other people choose because we will feel it when we gamble at that casino. We should also look for casinos to have a list of trusted casinos that are suitable for us. That way, we will not depend on other people to choose the casino.

Trusted casinos will provide the best for their members, and if any of their members want to get a commission from the casino, they are allowed to spread their referral thread to the sites they want. This is a good reciprocal relationship between the casino and its members because the casino can get promotions from its members. In contrast, its members can get people to join through its referral thread so that it can earn commission bonuses.

It’s interesting, of course, to find out a generalized portrait of a businessman who starts a business by organizing a new casino .  It seems to me that such a person should not be a very gambling player himself, or even he himself should be indifferent to gambling.  But of course he must have a good understanding of how other people, and players primarily perceive the new casino as a whole.  The interface and its beautiful, well-thought-out picture are important here.  It is also important to make several possible options for transferring several popular cryptocurrencies to the deposit.  At the same time, at least one cryptocurrency must have small commissions, such as Tron.  And finally, an important point is the competent organization of the support service and its prompt work with customer requests. 
If a businessman who begins to participate in the gambling business by organizing a new casino takes into account and understands all this, then such a casino may well develop over time into a successful business project.

To be safe it's better to stick with the big names so you don't get into problem with your money and all that, some of the smaller casino who are scam prone do not pay out big wins because they probably don't have the resources enough so they will close the user account or just look for a way around it and you get scammed.

It's very bad when you want to cut conners and end up been scammed. Wanting sites that skip KYC until you want to withdraw your winnings is what most people fall prey to maybe because of their bonus offers, but when you work with regulated names who have reputation in the industry, they have their name at stake so they wouldn't want to risk been accused of any of such except the gambler goes against their terms they they can take actions they will be able to defend at any place anytime.

I agree with you when you say that we should give chances to small casinos, in fact they cannot become big if no one really believes in them.
However, I say that you need to be very careful with them... bet small amounts, always pay attention to reviews and be suspicious of everything.

On the other hand, it is also very important that small casinos invest a lot in customer support, that they have easy means of communicating with their customers and that they provide quality service... it is also important that they are very close to the players, with an official topic here on the bitcointalk forum and constant communication with the community, in order to quickly gain a reputation, which will be converted into greater security for players and consequently into income for the site.