Topic: Crypto casino that doesn't ask for KYC (documents) at withdrawal (Read 973 times)

You are very correct and I completely agree wit you, I usually don't have issues with KYC when it just involves submitting my personal government issued ID card and taking pictures or a short video, or maybe a video chat or something, but when it gets to this level of providing my source of fund to casino or may an exchange, it's a real trouble for me..
And I am actually very glad that ever since I started doing things online and passing kyc verification, I've never gotten to that stage of having to provide my source of income, on Stake, I am currently on level 2 verification and have no plan of going beyond that level.

But then on the other hand, sometimes, the casinos forces a gambler to do this level of kyc or else, loose not just the account, but also a large sum of money that the gambler have won and he or she is trying to withdraw, at such a circumstance, what will you do? Imagine winning over a $100,000 and trying to withdraw the money, and the casino asked for a proof of fund verification, would you forfeit this money back to the casino and as well loose the account?

If situation came that they ask proof of funds or any more deeper information about ourselves then provably I will not cooperate with them and seek for another casino that only ask basic information when they asked KYC. Since for me its to much for asking that information while we want only to gamble in their casino.

There's lots of reputable choices here and will not settle for casino who implement more stricter KYC rules to their costumers.

For sure the casino ask that will lose a lot of costumer since to many gamblers don't really like KYC at first place but they just accept that it needed to submit an ID due to regulation, but if proof of income has been asked I guess this is main reason for them not to gamble anymore since security is more important than playing a risky game.

Totally understandable about money laundering matters and since these businesses are really that regulated or licensed then they are really that complying governments rules on which it is really that a standard thing. When it comes to verification levels on which it does really give out that kind of question on why they do really comes into a point on asking out source of income? Aren't giving your personal details isn't enough?  Just like on what mentioned above by other poster that I would rather lose up gambling account or some funds if they would really be asking out this kind of verification on which this is really something which is too much.

As for worrying about withdrawals on which there are still some sites or platforms that doesn't ask out some verification and that is something that we do want. You won't really be that having those worries because you are confident that you could take out your winnings without any issues, because you've been dealing up with a legit platform. Never ever tend to deposit carelessly into the sites or platforms that doesn't have some known reputation.

I'm with you at this stage, I also will never do the next level of KYC where I have to provide source of funds.
I'd prefer to lose my gambling account although it is on my favorite casino if they ask me to provide it.
KYC level 2 or where it is just about providing personal document such as ID Card or Passport is still fine for me.

Honestly, I hate it when a casino asks for my source of funds. It feels like giving away a secret. In that case, maybe we could just lie a bit? Like, say it’s from remittances or allowance from parents or relatives who support us? Because if we actually have a business and they ask for permits, licenses, and bank accounts, that’s like setting ourselves up for trouble, if you ask me.

Brilliant take. Casinos are just businesses that are trying to survive in this saturated landscape which is why it makes sense as to why they request KYC only during withdrawals and not during deposits even though it seems unethical.

I'm fine with providing simple KYC stuff like ID proof, address proof etc, but advanced KYC like source of funds, video KYC etc for simple reasons is nonsensical.

Maybe what the ops is looking for is a decentralized casino that have no requirements for KYC verification, if not as long as the gambling sites is a centralized casino, you have to respect that their license demands them to always know their customers and if they don't abide by such a policy to ask for verification from player's at some point, their license could be revoked, and their be forced out of the market, that is why, any cryptocurrency casino that is decentralised always have that tendency to ask for KYC to fulfil their Anti money laundering regulations.

Unless if a casino want to become a trap for the player that is when and where their may say, they don't require KYC to play on them, but on the long run, the gambler will eventually be asked to verify their accounts one way or the other.

So anything that make you to create an accoyon centralised casinos, just be ready to hand out you documents for verification any point you are asked for, this is the only way to keep your account active on such a site.

Actually there is a reason why they implement KYC where there will be a connection with money laundering or other bad things, as we see now, the Tampa KYC word promotion is the main key to new casinos, after we play and make a withdrawal, there will be a KYC requirement for withdrawals so not 100% of casinos do not do KYC

But we arent seeing these stuffs right? but rather they wouldnt really be mindful or having those strict imposing of rules about before making some big deposits then they should have made or comply the KYC first
on which we know that this mostly will really be done on the moment that you do make out some withdrawal. Sounds new? No it isnt. We've been through with those horrendous and nightmare kind of scenarios on which platforms really do allow on making that huge deposits and asking nothing but on the moment that tries out to withdraw then this is where shit things starts to happen. On the moment or time that you have sin something significant then you wont really be bothered about complying with those requirements on which as long you do able to get your winnings then this would really be your outmost priority. It do really just sucks that if they were really that asking verification in the first place then they should be asking it out since from the start so that there would really be that smooth transaction with those future transactions or request that be done by a certain user. Actually there would be no problems as long you do deal up with a known and reputable site but if we do speak about into those new ones or havent established out their company or
site yet in terms of reputation and popularity then there would really be those probabilities that you wont be able to get your winnings due to that issue.

Although I was so minor about that, but since you brought it out I think it's good to "iron it out." The truth is that the world of payment has never been fair to the customers (not casino alone), it's all about the company, and the regulators even gave them a high degree of freedom and flexibility. This can only explain why you would be able to deposit $100,000 without any KYC but won't be able to withdraw $1 without KYC. Is that fair? No, because "what is good for the goose is good for the gander." That adage is fairness. Fine, they are regulated and must obey the regulation, I wonder why the law did not state it emphatically that no company must receive a dime from any client/customer without a KYC as well. It is then we can talk about fairness.

in the end they ask for KYC 
even though it is basic KYC I think we also have to be careful in this matter, so it is better to play on one site or a few sites that do KYC not on all gambling sites
because KYC is currently very vulnerable to fraud and data sales for bad things and even harm the data owner

There are so many casinos that will not ask for KYC but at the long run, they will always ask for KYC even though it's a simple one that will will require you to submit your identity only without going as far as asking for proofs of location r nationality. Privacy is what we should ensure we stick to because it's not every casinos that we have to do KYC since their are many that will always sell our information to the  public and can be used against us in the future. Maybe the government may make this process more difficult for us in the future by the time they start fighting against decentralized casinos.

For a casino not to request KYC information is almost impossible, only decentralized casinos, all casinos require KYC and that was something that was implemented in a mandatory way to ensure all privacy and with multiple excuses, such as security, so that they don't hack you, blah blah and blah, we all know that a casino can be hacked and they can steal, there is nothing safe there, if you look for a centralized casino without that requirement I would tell you that it is impossible at this point.

You both are correct and I completely agree, this is something I believe we have discussed several times in the gambling discussion board.
We have to know that some casinos are very trickish and will do any thing to make sure they do not pay their player who wins a good amount of money. And one of the means they rely on is through kyc, and this is usually when they ask for documents that they know that the player won't find easy providing..

The best way to avoid such as the above from happening is always to first pass the kyc verification before making any form of deposit to the casino, and if the casino does not allow kyc before deposit, then the management of that casino must be up to something and such casino should be avoided.

That is it and is always like that, I also advised most of my friends to pass kyc already before making deposit to start using the site. Many people are victims of these casinos and they are usually trapped when they make huge winning in the casino and of course casinos mostly carry out that operation if they are not ready to pay huge amount to the users and if they are not able to provide such kyc they would seize such amount from them.

Yes, it looks like it but I doubt if it's global, it may be the stake.us or other jurisdictions where regulation is now tougher. I said this because I didn't receive any email to inform me of such a development and neither did anyone I know using Stake inform me of such.

This is why it's good you have a legit means of earning, otherwise, if you are dealing with some risky activities like trading and gambling and you can't prove the source of funds when required, the money is gone. Many might have just been gambling for years without additional verifications but as it has progressed to everyone verifying now, it will soon get to the turn of everyone providing their source of funds.

It seems regulation is winning!

Stake has announced its mandatory KYC so, it's no longer your choice with those cryptos that you want to gamble.

You're right, for small time gamblers it's not a mandatory thing. But we're getting the point from stake and other casinos that they were once a non-kyc casino but then, asked it as a mandatory requirement. So, those at some point of their prime and popularity now and they're not asking for it, one day they will make it as an obligatory.

This is one. But they're not just too lovable at all, maybe the interest isn't there yet but they can be an alternative.

If a gambler is just betting small amounts, then KYC probably isn't a big deal. Even though most popular casinos here are KYC-compliant, they don’t usually ask for it unless it’s necessary. But the OP should be ready, since regulations can change, and the casinos have to adapt.

I’ve noticed some Telegram casinos showing up; maybe they’re the solution? Correct me if I’m wrong, though. I’m not too familiar with that kind of platform.

That is for sure, as we know the era we have now. Being online is now easily accessible and the hype of online casinos are still there. If you like to hang out online, you can came across a different website/casino but it does not mean that you will register and play on them for a long time but the number of unknown casinos to us must still be more than it. They might be a smaller casino and usually a small casino don't have a license yet, so they don't also have a KYC for now. Professional casinos will still have an early warning before they change their rules, so we can always packed our bags and migrate to other KYC-friendly casinos.

It all depends, some may not require for kyc on making withdrawals but will give a minimum withdrawal amount, which if you're unable to have such balance on your account, you may not be able to withdraw and this is something entirely different from the normal kyc related issues affecting gamblers from making withdrawals, from my experience, most casinos will demand for kyc before allowing for making withdrawal except for few.

It is possible that email notifications for those who have not done level 2 verification if you did it last year will not receive this notification.
I said that exchanges are almost all KYC mandatory if you want to trade there, while casinos still have waivers where users can still use casinos with no KYC, but someday it will be like exchanges that KYC will be mandatory.

Maybe not unfair especially if they know that the casino they are playing is KYC compliant. For sure they already know that's part of regulation and common things happening in a legitimate casino now. It will only goes unfair if the casino claims to be a KYC free but suddenly end up asking that saying for verification purposes. With these reason we don't have any escape since with that situation is just lying to us regarding on no KYC thing. That's why I always follow with what majority says that stick only on those reputable casinos since we provably not gonna get some issue with them especially if we always obey their rules.

As a stake user who did my KYC over a year ago, I can say that in the first level of verification people put their full names and other data. In the second level people upload ID, in the third level people upload Address proofs, in the fourth level people upload proof of funds. I didn't see any email about verification notice, I'm looking in my email, I don't know if I didn't receive it because I have a level 2 verified account and now I'm verifying for level 3. Either way, KYC is here to stay. Governments have started to force casinos and exchanges to ask for KYC and I won't be surprised if in a few years crypto wallets are also asking for KYC.

I guess these new rules apply to all Stake sites. They have been enforcing mandatory KYC for a long time now though it was very basic, but the new level stuff is disheartening to say the least even though completely understandable.

Also, level 2 probably will require ID + Address proofs and nothing more. Source of funds etc are usually requested in higher levels based on what I know.

It looks like regulators finally caught up with the crypto gambling industry.

Just to be clear, this is for all of the Stake sites in each region, right? So no differentiating between stake.com and stake.us for example.

It should be very easy to pass the KYC if they just ask for ID + proof of address (assuming your country makes it easy for you to get that last piece of information). If source of funds is involved though, then things become more complicated.

That's it, it's just unfair but people now see it as normal these days, you know when the insane things are common in an environment, people now see it as normal even if it is an abomination elsewhere. I've always said that collecting people's money without KYC but trying to pay them only with KYC is not so cool, but I don't mind since there is a solution. The solution is that you should complete your KYC as soon as you register with the casino before depositing your money. That is good only for the KYC casinos, but it got worse when the casino preached no-KYC when you opened the account but suddenly asked you for it. We've seen a lot of cases like that and it puts people in unfortunate situations if they already have their money hooked there.

There are many good suggestions that I have read in this topic, and I am sure of the quality of those suggestions because the users who suggested them are trusted members. But what I want to point out is that there is no guarantee that what happened to these users is the same as what will happen to you. One of the important factors that must be taken into consideration is the amount you intend to withdraw from the platform. There are amounts that the platform cannot allow you to withdraw before verifying your identity and registering all your data, and in some cases they may ask you to prove the source of the deposited amount if there is any suspicion of any kind, especially if the amount is large enough to raise suspicion. Of course, this is on the assumption that it has been verified that you used the casino honestly and without manipulation.

My advice to OP if he wants to withdraw a large amount is to divide the withdrawal into withdrawals of small amounts and at different times. This is not a guarantee that the withdrawal will always be successful without completing the kyc procedures, but it will help to some extent in avoiding this request. You can also avoid using centralized casinos and look for decentralized alternatives, but this option has limitations of a different kind.

Absolutely, if I was never asked for KYC on a particular casino doesn't mean everyone will have the same experience. In fact KYC can be asked at anytime as long as the casino is AML regulated but users with small wagering may not be facing any queries about their withdrawal so they won't be asked for KYC and Proof of Funds. But there are some who create account and deposit large but wager a small amount and they try to withdraw them all which a casino consider as an attempt to launder money and definitely those situations will trigger KYC verification.

To make sure you won't have any problems when it comes to withdrawal, better prepare for the compliance of their kyc protocol. Even if we say, the site is not asking kyc for now, sooner or later, they have the possibility to require from you especially those licensed casinos. Don't get too complacent as it can happen anytime. Also do take note that your credentials should match what you have entered when you sign up because it might create problems later on.

A casino may not ask you for kyc while you deposit and gamble, but take note that they can always ask you for kyc anytime, some casinos are even notorious for asking for kyc when a user wins a huge amount of money and sometimes i suspect that some of them do it in order not to pay out the gambler, i find that to be very unfair. So in summary, always be ready to submit kyc in any casino, because it could be triggered anytime.

I agree with you but I think the sites op mentioned are reputable enough so if he completes kyc verification there it won't have any negative effect on him. But those casinos allow him to gamble without KYC verification. He can also use stake.com and sportsbet.io where he can gamble a good amount without KYC verification. A lot of gambling signs are constantly coming to the gambling market due to which every casino site is increasing its competitors. so they are also making their rules much easier.

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I recommend you to check out notokyc.com

Yes that's right, a casino site's terms and conditions may change due to changes in the site's license and various laws from governments in different countries.  And we can get answers to all kinds of critical questions in Tos. So of course, if you have any questions about something new or any casino site, you should read the TOS carefully to clear it up. then all kinds of confusion can be removed by itself. It's much easier to find an answer to a question by reading the TOS than by opening a topic and getting opinions from different people.

Doesn't mean they are not gonna ask you "KYC"

You should try to look on term & condition, not based experience. Cause all the casino you are mentioned, all of them can ask you KYC. If you don't believe it, then you can tried to check one by one of each casino.

Term & condition is always the answer, not based experience user.

That's the million dollar question, as they say in many countries.

The first thing here is not to ask which casino doesn't have it, since in reality the real situation is because you're afraid of KYC, you know.

The question is, what happens if I have problems with the withdrawal of my money, not only because of the KYC issue since a casino may or may not have it but that doesn't prevent having withdrawal problems.

Then, someone can have good experiences with a casino, but it will always be their personal experience, in the long run the sum of those positive reactions adds up to You decision, but it may not be the best choice.

There are platforms in which truly, we can find them that they don't require kyc, while some will not have to ask at as the time of joining, but also g the line, they walk demands for it, we have to know the impacts, any gambling platform have to be scrutinized well by us before we make them as our preferred way.

Well, this is true. I thought about this after making my reply - because there are several times that I have been helped by threads which the Op has abandoned or threads that were made a long time ago before I even came to the forum or became active in the gambling board.

Since this forum is like an archive of knowledge I guess adding this to the lists of things already existing here wouldn’t be bad even if the person who asked the question initially didn’t get to use it.

I have seen some casinos around here which claim to be nom-KYC ones, it is rather an strategy for the staff of such projects to catch the attention of newbies within the world of gambling, they are most of the time the one who do not like to go through the hassle of submitting their personal information and papers, like passport and identity card, so a casino being Non-KYC could be an actual boost for the gambling volume for small casinos or bookies, but inevitably when a casino gets to certain level of volume and deposits regulators and law enforcement agencies will send a cease and desist order against the website of platform itself. On the internet, we are going through times in which it seems to be necessary to track our movements and connect all the digital dots which could be tied to our identity in real life. Because of that, I am quite skeptical each time I see a small casino or an relatively new casino to use absence of KYC as a way to advertise themselves.  

Rather than doing what OP is trying to do, we should just submit our information to a couple of reliable casinos we are comfortable with and not to take chances with shady services out there.

You're right... Stake has started to strictly enforce all users to do KYC until the deadline until the end of the year but until now withdrawals are still smooth without KYC verification maybe if the year has changed then it has become mandatory for Stake users.

There are still casinos that have a license but do not ask for KYC... but remember anytime a casino will ask you for KYC because they already have strict regulations... I think we see that all casinos here have a license, if a casino does not have a license then it needs to be questioned...

You sound correct and many gamblers need to understand that big casinos are always noticed by the government which will want them to adhere to the laws Incase of money laundering users that might want to escape getting caught by the government looking for good casinos where they could exchange stolen funds for new ones that will not get noticed by the government. KYC are mandatory in most regions where many of these casinos are registered that is why it is hard to see popular and reputable casinos not asking for KYC even though it's a fair one. Fair KYC could be compulsory like asking for your email address, your real name and address, but when something fishy happens, they could ask for other important documents.

Unless a casino has explicitly stated somewhere that they do not enforce KYC, you cannot assume that you will not be asked for documentation. Even casinos that didn’t ask for KYC before are being forced by Curacao regulators to implement it. Casinos that are recommended as being KYC-free often still mention KYC in their terms and conditions. You need confirmation from a direct source and not speculation based on personal anecdotes.

I think the most important thing is to make sure we read their terms and conditions before going further to make use of the casino, because some them do asked after kyc knowing too well that the winning amount is large and when requesting for one time withdrawals it makes it looks so suspicious to the gambling/betting site, so they think is not operated by the real owner therefore before passing through withdrawal process you would have to pass some documents verifications before they enable you have your winning amount. The most important thing is that we must be prepared while gambling because we could hit jackpot were they casino asks us to undergo verification processes.

The link you provided can help the Op to know the casinos that doing KYC and the ones that are not doing KYC. And as you said, if the Op is withdrawing small amount, I think there will be no KYC requirement but when he is withdrawing big amount. And if he is withdrawing big amount then the no KYC casino he is looking for will also require KYC at that time so there is no KYC free casino in the industry for now. Someone made mentioned of DGbet and livecasinos, I don't think they will not ask for KYC when a gambler want to withdraw $10,000 and above. Op just prepare your KYC keep and register to any casino here that is reputable.

It’s not just OP who benefits from our replies; there are plenty of newbies who will read this thread. They’ll see that the chances of finding casinos with no KYC offers are almost nonexistent. Our replies can help educate them to stay away from casinos that promise no KYC while still having KYC requirements in their TOS.

BC.Game, Metaspins, BetFury, Metawin, and a few others never asked me to complete KYC. In these casinos, I have a lot of deposits & withdrawals... in some of them, I have been playing for years.

I don't like KYC, when I can I will avoid it. But I think everyone should be ready to complete the KYC procedure if the casino asks for it, for any reason... what if you happen to win some bigger money and before the payout, they ask you to do KYC?


It's been 3 days already, so the chances of that are slim, but still there...

If he is really interested in what he asked, maybe he will come back. If he is satisfied with the comments and information he has received, he can lock the topic so that it does not drag on, and if not, he can ask additional questions.

Are we really sure the op came genuinely? I replied the thread I’ve been reading the replies but never have I seen the Op respond to the comments and to top things up the Op created the account made the post and left it two minutes later.

I’d suggest we just ignore it and wait till the Op returns back to make a single comment if not we’ll only just be wasting our time suggesting different casinos that will never be used.

Well said. Those suggestions are totally misleading and inaccurate which just goes to show that they need to think twice before handing out such inaccurate suggestions on a platter.

This is incorrect. All centralised crypto gambling sites can request KYC at any point of time for any amount which is a fact these days.

The easiest way to find a casino like yours is that there are many casino site announcement threads in this forum where you can find many casino site you ANN. so from here you can choice casino site that you are afford to use according your needs and also you can visit this link to know many casinos features in  shortcut way - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

Duelbits has been around for a few years but didn't ask me for KYC unless you're another case where KYC might apply.
As of now the casinos not asking for KYC are still many.
Yeap casinos have regulation then it will be monitored by the government then someday KYC will be a must like exchanges.

There is no casino that does not want to be popular, they continue to increase efforts to be popular as well as other things where they ask for KYC so we as customers must be prepared.
Until then just take advantage of casinos that don't KYC because there are still many.

I just read a few of the advice and options people gave you but I advise you to go for those decentralised casinos if you do not ever want to complete the KYC and still want to gamble relaxed. The only sacrifices here are to be willing to part ways with the frequent blockchain transaction fees and also know how their games work and the options they have.

I've never been comfortable with the no-KYC casinos and some have defrauded their customers and disappeared, while others may later ask for the KYC after a while citing regulators are on their neck especially if you are winning. So what's the point?

If you're gambling at a licensed casino, expect them to ask for KYC at some point. Sure, a lot of licensed casinos don’t require KYC, especially for smaller bets, so if you’re betting at that level, regulated casinos are still a safe option. But if you're set on avoiding KYC entirely, a regulated casino isn't the way to go; you’d need to look into decentralized casinos. Just keep in mind, though, it’s still a bit risky since there aren’t too many decentralized options in the industry yet.

There are still many new casinos that don't ask for KYC from their customers and I believe that's because they are still new, the period a new casino starts making noises around the internet and new users are storming the casino they will be forced to start asking for KYC if they want to keep operating their business.

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There is no room for casinos with no KYC, we all should accept this, if as a online casino owner you don't feel like asking for KYC from your customers then your casino should stay far behind, make sure it never sees the spotlight, the less popular the casino is the better.

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I have always know that stake will join someday, they are too big not to be noticed by regulators, to avoid trouble asking customers for KYC verifications is a must.

Most of the centralized casinos we have today often promote their self as non-kyc casino at the very beginning it their journey in the gambling industry, but as time goes on and they manage to acquire the necessary licenses required for them to become a fully recognized legal online gambling casino, they switch to starting asking users for kyc verification, and most of this casinos make this switch without even letting their customers know about it.
But on the other hand, this is even if the casino manages to make it to that stage without closing down.

I would say that it's more riskier to depend on a new casino because it's promoting itself as a non kyc casino, than rather choose a well known, trusted and established casino that requires kyc, atleast, choosing a casino like this, you the gambler have a bit of peace of mind that they won't disappear some day, or turn around to start asking kyc verification when they initial promoted themselves as non-kyc

Do you have an active ANN thread here in the forum and if yes, then point me to it because from your username, it is clear that you are a casino representative and should know how things are done over here, this is a cryptocurrency discussion forum and for that, anything related to promotions should be done properly by opening a discussion thread for your potential clients instead coming through the back door to advistertise your casino.

Although the ops ask for recommendations of free KYC withdrawal casinos, so your comment may be somehow justified, but not all that acceptable to do that here in the forum, that is why I have to quote your comment to point that out for all of us to get thos clarity.

Some members gave suggestions based on their own experience which might be a bit misleading as other users might have a completely different experience. Just because a casino didn’t ask you for kyc doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t do it with other customers.
What OP should do is to look for casinos that promote theirselves as no-kyc and make sure to read their tos. Even then, there is still a chance that you will be asked to verify your identity.

Not 100% true and you shouldn't give advice if you're not 100% sure of what you are saying. Some casinos might let you wd $2000 or $3000 a few times but when you hit a certain threshold hold, maybe 20k in total wd, that might trigger kyc.

Bottom line, if the ToS mentions kyc blah blah anything, be prepared that at some point they will likely nail you for documents.

I did look their terms (both site) and find/check keywords as i usually do (ctrol+f) (I didn't read full of any ToS page) before replying here earlier but never saw those keywords same on google thus my assumptions of them not asking such stuff, but i stand corrected. Thanks for the information though.

I don't know why, I needed to repeat my self for two user.

But at least can you read term & condition first ? It's really not long, just under 1 mins can find the things you are mentioned is being ask by them. Take a look from screenshot, (Bustabit & Bustadice) can ask you data for verify your self.





Please take time to read term & condition as always, even we all know: TLTR (TO LONG TO READ). It's gonna to save you, it's basically like contract (always read the contract or paper before you sign it).

I didn't
I didn't use any extra internet connection or software to access the website. I am a user from Nigeria. And Nigeria is not a banned location because I access the website without a VPN and since the past 2 years there's been no problem with that.

I had won some money the second time from a bet higher than the previous one although less than 100 dollars and they wanted to to just confirm before I withdrew the winnings. And once I had the documents verified or I past the process, my withdrawal was processed. It was this experience that made me read their Terms of service again. And in the document they stated that they can ask for KYC at anytime if they have any reason to do so.

Some gamblers cares about their privacy in gambling and will want to maintain this to any left, just as we all know that leaving your information with online platforms may not be secured, and it makes no difference from filling out for a kyc verification.

We may not have to gamble until we have the right information needed to be used for a gambling platform kyc, if we cant present any of the information needed, they they are going to deprived us.

Freebitco yes, they did changed that terms (kyc added for some extent) just last year, and the site started to get dump by its users. But bustabit as well as bustadice didn't, and probably will never as it stay the same since the introduction of the site unlike freebitco who introduces different features, its tokens, etc.

Bro what do u talking about ?

All of your casino is being mentioned is "KYC" read the term & condition. All of them, stated can demands you to verify your self. As I said before, no and never will because in term & condition is always stated (casino have some right/demand verify/KYC in some condition).

Plus, If you can play without KYC doesn't mean you are not getting ask (Just like I explained in the beginning). Always read in term & condition, not based experience for these topic (it's just like contract).

I use my ISPN IP for the connection always. Probably you might have used a VPN with IP from a banned location. Did you do that? The exchanges and gambling sites that I have used that request for KYC documents from me is because of this reason. Or if I may ask. Why do Livecasino requested for KYC documents from you? Or they just suddenly requested for it without any reason?

Should I say you're lucky? I have been using Livecasino too and i submitted my KYC documents on demand about two years ago. It was a seamless process though. However, I think that it is not their go to to ask for KYC from users although they can ask from users at anytime if they have some reasons to but it isn't a must before or upon sign up as a condition for using them.

BNB, LTC, USDT Bep20 payments are common in some casinos even I call it almost all casinos that are here provide these coin payments and now it's just for you to choose which casino of your choice that some people recommend.

You don't have to be afraid, some people who recommend their casinos have had a lot of experience with casinos for a long time so they recommend them even though each case is always different.

Because until now many casinos do not need KYC when you make a withdrawal, so you need to try it.

There is no guarantee that when withdrawing funds, you will not be required to pass verification. I think that the amount you decide to withdraw will be the deciding factor here. And the more this amount is, the higher the chances that you will have to go through KYC.

Metawin web3, up to 25 ETH you wont be asked for KYC.

I am aware of only 2 casinos that do not ask about KYC, Betcoin and nitrobetting, these two are the OGs and are very well reputed in the community. I haven't seen any issues with both of these, being using them from years at this point. Stake is another option but I am not sure if they ask for KYC to withdraw, haven't used it that much. You should be fine with the first two options

From my little experience of gambling, I can say, all casinos can ask you for KYC document if you suddenly win a huge amount of money and then try to withdraw the entire sum. Like DEX, we don't yet have a Decentralized casino which can ensure complete anonymity.

If you find any such casinos, please let us know as well. Highly likely they have some shady background. If you are planning to play with small amount of money, then usually you should not face any kyc related issues..

KYC is good for someone to have done, but I know quite well that KYC do help but I don't know the reason why some persons doesn't want to have done their KYC verification to any gambling websites,  they gamble with, if Stake.com will enforce all the accounts in their sites to have done KYC I think it will be better and good gamblers, but concerning what op is saying, I don't think that op is making reference to KYC to accounts, is pointing at a particular coin that can be use to gamble that requires KYC, generally KYC is done because of accounts  or website for security purposes not for particular coins someone uses in gambling.

Let me make this simple for you op. Every centralised gambling site out there(FIAT and Crypto) can request KYC at any point for various reasons using the TOS to justify their reasoning.

They can request it for low or huge amounts. For example, BC.Game requested KYC from me for 20 bucks which is bizarre and hilarious. Only decentralised gambling sites won't ever request any form of KYC based on what I observed.

https://l0tt0.com/ accepts Litecoin payments and is a no KYC casino.

This is true, no casino is 100 KYC free in their rules but I think that we can suggest him non-KYC casinos based on experience that some websites put down for years. For example, Freebitco.in has never asked for KYC documents as far as I know but I don't suggest OP to play there because of many problems that they face these days. Btw I can suggest Bustabit and Bustadice, I've never heard anyone getting asked for KYC from these websites but they lack the currencies that OP is looking for.

Hey,

These ones: https://top69cryptocasinos.com/no-kyc-crypto-casinos/

No one can guarantee that just because a casino hasn't asked them to undergo identity verification that they won't ask you either. Each case is different. Online casinos have systems in place that can notify the staff if something out of the ordinary is happening. Such systems can be triggered from the way you play, by your location, by comparing your gameplay to other players, and other things. I have been on Sportsbet.io for years and I haven't done KYC. I also have accounts on Playgram and Blackjack.Fun and it's the same there. 

It is true that I received a notice a few days ago about Stake,com that will enforce KYC before the end of the current year so that all features can be enjoyed.
For those who bet frequently and they usually will receive a $50 gift after passing KYC lvl 2 and this is an offer from stake,com directly sent via gmail.

Without KYC u played the game by depositing over 600$ and after playing the game you got your money backed no problem. You must have a good point for them because they didn't harassment a user for 600$ and without KYC.

Any money transaction without doing KYC is now considered a scam by everyone. But on the other hand you get the maximum amount of benefits by using stake.com. Now I would like to know from you whether it is still the same as before, without KYC, transactions can still be done there or now they have given new KYC restrictions? Can I deposit now without KYC if I want to play the game? Be sure about this matter.

Stake.com has recently started enforcing KYC for all the accounts. Now the users need to complete KYC before the year ends in order to use their Stake.com accounts. So I think we cannot suggest Stake in the category of casinos that don’t ask for KYC.
You need to understand OP that casinos that ask for KYC have a license, and all the legit casinos go for a license. If someone is not asking for KYC, then there’s a high probability that they are not legit. If you are willing to take the risk, then definitely give it a try. Upgrade00 has given you the best thread for reference. Use that to find the ideal casino.

There is a long list of casino sites that do not ask you for KYC when withdrawing... Because I myself have played at many casinos on the forum not with KYC verification so all withdrawals are smooth without the need for any documents.

Maybe you can visit Shuffle.com or Stake.com or others because they have many deposit/withdrawal options that you mentioned.

But remember that the casino has any policy about AML KYC, even if you make a big withdrawal I'm sure the casino will ask you for documents... but if it's a small amount you'll be fine without KYC.

I have not even seen a decentralized gambling sites before. I have only heard of them before they they existed when bitcoin was first created but I thought that they may be centralized also but not requiring KYC.

A casino that is not having KYC or not make KYC mandatory but you are sending your coins to the gambling site address which is the address given you on your account, such casino are also still completely centralized.

The gambling sites that I can say are not totally centralized now are the web3 casinos like Metawin but they can also request users to get verified. But if you do not win more than $10000 to withdraw on Metawin and if you coins is not connected to money laundering and something illegal, KYC will not be demanded.

Not because I'm participating in the signature campaign but I can suggest Shuffle, I've been playing for a while, made many deposits and some withdrawals without being asked for KYC.
There are some other casinos to try ofc but what you should aware is that most casino has KYC terms so you should be ready to complete KYC because the casino may ask you to do it anytime.
Stake was great choice for you but it seems that it is not suitable for you because KYC is mandatory now (will be officially started next year) but all users have been asked to do KYC some time ago.

First thing first, as long as you are gambling on a centralised casino, you should be ready to hand out your documents for verification any time you are asked to do so, and to see a cryptocurrency casino with centralised status that gives you total KYC free withdrawal on any amount is somewhat rear and hard to see, unless if you want to continue gambling below the casino trenchhoold because majority's of the centralised casinos have the benchmark of $5000+ as their benchmark for KYC demands on both withdrawals and deposits, you as a gambler can decide to operate with bellow that limits to keep your account free from being ask for KYC.
Unless you want to go on a decentralised casino who are totally KYC free, that way you can be rest assured that you won't be bordered with KYC at any point in time, but anything other than that will result into you relying on semi decentralised cryptocurrency casino, semi decentralised in the sense that, their are centralised casinos but not to hard about KYC and that way many players mistakes them for as none KYC casino, whereas in the rules and terms of service is included that when you deposits certain amount or  you win certain amount, you will be demanded to go through KYC.

It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list containing all casinos with presence on the forum, just a list that covers the level of privacy the different exchanges offer

You can of course commen casinos that you'll like to see added and it can be edited into the original list.

The thing is, there likely will be alot of casino, (some we may know, while most; we don't know) that may be kyc-free, but the truth of the matter is that, there is actually no guarantees since it's centralized casinos we talking about here, they can actually wake up one morning and decide to change their terms, and move from kyc-free to becoming kyc compliant.

And another fact worthy of note is that, some of this casinos may likely have daily withdrawal thresholds, which if reached, the player withdrawing funds may be required to pass kyc, like some casino will allow withdrawal from $1 to $9,999 to be processed without triggering the kyc system, but upon withdrawal of $10,000 and above, the system automatically put the request on hold and ask that the user complete kyc before the transaction can be processed; this is also another angle to look at as well.

You will have to check which of the casinos that do not have a strict KYC policy accepts these different currencies, but you should have little trouble as they are commonly accepted.

Livecasino and Sportsbet are two casinos that I will recommend for privacy and have been recommended by other users too already.

- Jay -

Sportsbet.io and Livecasino are very good and they dont charge any withdrawal fees for most coins, so I can only recommend them.
I used few other smaller casinos that dont have any kyc, l0tt0.com is one of them, but most casinos can always ask you to verify if you try to withdraw big amounts.
It is best to read terms of every casino before you sign up and send them your coins.

Its more better to see that Op give a try on the ones suggested to him and conform everything that had been said of them to be the same, this is just for him to have a test run and be rest assured, while doing this, he can also make use of the platform he find more interesting to at least start from small amount, though there are other platforms as well when you check from time here on bitcointalk, you may discover more.

Well, aside Metawin and Livecasino as recommended by Oshosondy, I don't think there is actually any other top casino in this same rank that I can trust to be kyc free, even this two casino that were recommended has never been tested by me, though I have an account on Livecasino for sure, but I have never played there, or read their terms to really be sure they are kyc free.

What I did say is that, right now, it has become a kind of difficult to really find a big and well known casino that is kyc free, most kyc free casinos are those just coming up which can't be really trusted since they have no track record.
But all the same, I will just have to wish you luck in your search, maybe try the ones Oshosondy recommended, perhaps, any of that can be exactly what you are looking for.

No, and will never find it.

In centralized casinos website register, they cleary stated can ask you KYC anytime. Meaning, you will be ask for KYC in some condition and by the way some member in here could be sharing his experience withdraw without (KYC) doesn't mean you will have same situation and experience.

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If you want these scheme, you should gambling with on-chain transaction meaning the bet you are made are using transaction without any register account and everything is based smart contract (that's why is called on chain transaction). The problem, have limited gambling or game mostly are:
- Dice on-chain
- Jackpot
- Lottery
- Guess last number hash

Plus, to inconvenient cause you need to make on chain transaction each time you bet (spending some fee for gas/fee transaction).

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In the end, don't believe it any casino claiming no (KYC) cause never existence they have T&C + AML/KYC + License and they required those.

Try go through the site lists again, there are some gambling sites on this forum that are not listed. I can mention three that I know of right now that are not listed there. I hope the OP of the thread will edit the thread. I did not see Metawin also.

Are you sure about this? Stake require KYC is all that I know. I am using the gambling site also and I have no problem using the site but it did requested for KYC when I registered even before I was able to deposit.

To be honest I have been using this platform stake.com for a long time without any KYC verification.  I have made a maximum deposit of $600+ here together and withdraw again after playing the casino. they didn't stop me for that.  You will find many casino sites that will not demand kyc verification from you up to a certain amount. But if you exceed that limit then of course they will demand kyc from you to avoid anti money laundering issue. Because many people try to launder money using casino sites.

You can see this topic mentioned by Upgrade00. many casino sites are detailed here

Two lists has been given to you already but it’s worth keeping at the back of your mind that a casino can decide to ask for your documents even when those thresholds have not been reached, so the fact that they have a $2,000 maximum before kyc doesn’t mean that they’ll turn a blind eye on an account that’s being suspected of being involved in an unusual activity.

But if you’re not the type that would engage in anything suspicious then those lists above should help you get what you’re looking for.

Check out this thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790
It contains a list of casinos with info on whether they request for kyc or not, you can also read their terms for the exact amount that triggers the requirement to submit documents.

You won't have trouble with kyc on most casinos here on the forum if you're withdrawing below $2,000 to $3,000, but always do your research before depositing and bear in mind that casinos always reserve the rights to request for kyc at any time.

I have been using livecasino.io for over a year now and I have been able to withdraw coins on the casino without no KYC. You can make use of the site.

Also you can use Metawin.com.

There was a similar but kind of different topic recently, you can read what people posted there also. Looking for no-KYC casino recommendations to bet on cricket

Can you recommend some?

With BNB, LTC, USDT (BEP20) payment options?