Topic: Crypto debit card without kyc? (Read 760 times)
Actually any one offering a debit card without KYC wont be safe, and I will not recommend it, since master/visa both require KYC, so if some one use their own KYC and then issue you virtual cards, still your funds will be with them, and if they choose to hold them up, there is nothing you can do, there is no proper way to have your own account and debit card without KYC. Even though bitcoin and other crypto offers a lot of anonymity and you can purchase services using them and being anonymous, still when it comes to debit card it can not work in a safe manner.
you can try the new card from: alchemy pay
https://cryptocard.bit.store/
Apply fee
$ 5
3% Recharge fee
No KYC
0 Transaction fee
300-1000 Recharge limit/month
https://cryptocard.bit.store/
Apply fee
$ 5
3% Recharge fee
No KYC
0 Transaction fee
300-1000 Recharge limit/month
When you try to order a card, you need to provide your name/adress. You can't really provide a bogus ID, because when you will use it, some shops may find the transaction suspicious (since the name of the card doesn't match the name of the customer) and so block it.
That can happen if you are ordering some items that should be delivered to your home address, but I don't think anyone would ask for your ID to check if your name is real and legal or nor.Other physical CoinDebit cards I know worked without any name and with them you could purchase food in restaurants, groceries and snacks in shops, fuel in gas station, etc.
The physical cards require KYC.
OK, thank you for clarification about this.I hoped there could be some workaround for physical cards without strict kyc, maybe with lower limits or some other limitations.
That being said, we did some refunds to people that discovered that they can't use the virtual cards for what they wanted to use them. Just might take some time and convincing as this is a manual process.
I don't how often are refunds happening with FCF cards, but doing all this manually can be problematic.
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The cards are virtual USD cards, similar to prepaid gift cards, but they are tokenizable (they can be added to Apple/Google/Samsung Pay) by using a US/Canada number. YOu could get a virtual number on https://sms4sats.com/ . It may take 10-15 minutes to receive the SMS.
For the virtual cards, not KYC documents are needed.
For the virtual cards, not KYC documents are needed.
- Some e-comerce platforms do not send a SMS but a notification on your smartphone (exemple with Amazon)
- Some ask you to confirm the transaction within a 5 minutes time frame (exemple with Amazon again).
For european citizens,you know what I mean? (I don't remember the name, DSP2 or...) I'm talking about the "forced" approval for each TX while using a card
- When you try to order a card, you need to provide your name/adress. You can't really provide a bogus ID, because when you will use it, some shops may find the transaction suspicious (since the name of the card doesn't match the name of the customer) and so block it.
Hello everyone! I have an update that I think will be pleasing to everyone here: BTC is now accepted to buy the prepaid cards.
Great to see that you finally added Bitcoin payments for virtual cards, but you didn't answer me one question I asked before if this can be used to purchase upcoming physical FCF cards without any KYC verification?I couldn't find this information anywhere on your website.
I would take this with a serious dose of caution. CoinDebit card has had a problem with its service for a long time (September 2022), for now, they are under the pretext of looking for a new provider
I don't know what caution are you talking about when you can't even buy new cards now, and they refunded all the money to people who had money and filled refund requests when beta cards stopped working.I am following them and I will post when they start working with new cards, that will have bigger limits and different rules for buying cards.
Scammers would continue to sell cards and they wouldn't refund any money to people, this is not the case here, but do your own research.
I think it's time for you to create dedicated FCF topic in forum, and I would like to see comparison with other similar services that are available right now, like CoinDebit card
I would take this with a serious dose of caution. CoinDebit card has had a problem with its service for a long time (September 2022), for now, they are under the pretext of looking for a new provider https://www.coindebit.io/announcement
although on October 7 they announced that they are very close to relaunching the service https://twitter.com/Coin_debit/status/1578216892762042368
I would say that maybe the problem is not only in changing the provider.
For the virtual cards, not KYC documents are needed.
Does it mean that upcoming physical FCF debit cards for individuals will be with KYC verification or without?I think it's time for you to create dedicated FCF topic in forum, and I would like to see comparison with other similar services that are available right now, like CoinDebit card and CoinPayCard.
One thing I don't understand is that you support shitcoins like Shib but you don't want to add Bitcoin.
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc?
Paywithmoon doesn't require KYC, but it's available only in the US and can be loaded by using the Lightning Network or from your Coinbase account. I suspect the latter is meaningless as it already has its own card.Generally, no. You won't find any other non-KYC crypto debit cards. Converting BTC to a fiat currency electronically requires, by design, KYC.
I would like to add here that you can topup paywithmoon without coinbase account. You can topup from external wallets and use it without connecting coinbase. It works only for US based merchants though.
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc? I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
Would be glad to answer your questions regarding anonymous debit card solutions.
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc?
Paywithmoon doesn't require KYC, but it's available only in the US and can be loaded by using the Lightning Network or from your Coinbase account. I suspect the latter is meaningless as it already has its own card.Generally, no. You won't find any other non-KYC crypto debit cards. Converting BTC to a fiat currency electronically requires, by design, KYC.
Take a look at: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5280997 for a large list of cards.
I do not think any of them have no KYC anymore but I did not check, also keep in mind it will vary by region and amount. There was one that did not have KYC but it was limited to something like $500 a month $1000 a year so not very usable. At that point you are probably better off just trading for cash and getting a prepaid card someplace local.
For larger amounts there will always be KYC from legitimate places, although some may try to push the limits a bit of what they can and cannot do.
-Dave
I do not think any of them have no KYC anymore but I did not check, also keep in mind it will vary by region and amount. There was one that did not have KYC but it was limited to something like $500 a month $1000 a year so not very usable. At that point you are probably better off just trading for cash and getting a prepaid card someplace local.
For larger amounts there will always be KYC from legitimate places, although some may try to push the limits a bit of what they can and cannot do.
-Dave
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc? I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
1. Bitcoin is only pseudo-anonymous. Don't fool yourself believing it's more than that.
2. There used to be now and then card providers that, for a fat premium, issued the cards on other's names so you don't have to do KYC. It's clearly illegal and there may be risks too (at least in theory the actual owner can make nasty surprises)
3. Legit card providers may offer you crypto cards with no KYC or lax one (you can enter whatever you want), but those come with very small amount you can use for the entire lifetime of the card (250 USD/EUR/GBP or even less)
All in all, there's quite a limited use for these cards. The laws ask for KYC in basically all countries, hence most businesses comply.
@LeGaulois also seems to have purchased the service[5], perhaps he could provide his feedback as well?
I didn't purchase it, it was offered to me. But it's true I did receive a card with very detailed instructions to use it easily.
For my own reasons, I changed my mind and decided to not use it. Then I have sent back everything to the user by post mail.
I can't say anything more than I received the letter quickly and the person was very clear to describe how to use the service (card, SIM, etc). I'm sure in the topic there are a lot of happy customers who posted their feedback
While I can't vouch for the service because I never used it, user AlexPCS has been running a service[1] that's basically a debit card that you can load with BTC but without the hassle of KYC procedures. It has been running for almost 2 years now and it's got positive feedback from valuable members from our community (Hhampuz[2] (regarding acting as an escrow) or NotATether[3][4] (acting as a client)).
Perhaps you could add this option to your list of viable choices? @LeGaulois also seems to have purchased the service[5], perhaps he could provide his feedback as well?
[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonymous-crypto-loadable-bitcoin-debit-card-no-kyc-private-card-services-5244746
[2]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56162777
[3]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57197001
[4]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58539597
Perhaps you could add this option to your list of viable choices? @LeGaulois also seems to have purchased the service[5], perhaps he could provide his feedback as well?
[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonymous-crypto-loadable-bitcoin-debit-card-no-kyc-private-card-services-5244746
[2]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56162777
[3]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57197001
[4]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58539597
I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
Bitcoin was never designed to be anonymous, but the reason you need to expose your identity is not because of bitcoin, but because of fiat. You can quite happily spend bitcoin at anywhere which accepts bitcoin directly without having to hand out your KYC, but as soon as you want to interact with the fiat monetary system is where things become more complicated.I don't know any legitimate service provider that gives you that possibility without KYC. They require KYC once you touch Fiat because it's controlled by the government and financial institutions and it's the law that they set. In this case, companies require KYC because they don't want unknowingly to become involved with illicit activities. (At the same time it's hilarious, Deutsche and other banks many times were involved in money laundering).
You can take a look at Bitnovo and its Bitcard (if they still sell the card). You don't need to verify your identity and don't even need to create an account but the problem is that you're limited to 250€ max per card and need a phone number for the SMS activation. Over 250€ you will need to verify your ID or order a new card.
It works only for European citizens and the card costs 25€ by the way. I believe they also still have the Bitsa card with a membership that doesn't need your ID
It might be worth a look.
It looks very interesting, I'll learn the service and the company first since I know nothing about the company and how legit they are.It works only for European citizens and the card costs 25€ by the way. I believe they also still have the Bitsa card with a membership that doesn't need your ID
It might be worth a look.
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Basic Level
- Top up a maximum of €250 (One time top up)
- No need to provide any documentation.
- Valid for purchases in all over the world.
- Without commissions.
Thank you so much, man. This is what I am searching for. - Top up a maximum of €250 (One time top up)
- No need to provide any documentation.
- Valid for purchases in all over the world.
- Without commissions.
You can take a look at Bitnovo and its Bitcard (if they still sell the card). You don't need to verify your identity and don't even need to create an account but the problem is that you're limited to 250€ max per card and need a phone number for the SMS activation. Over 250€ you will need to verify your ID or order a new card.
It works only for European citizens and the card costs 25€ by the way. I believe they also still have the Bitsa card with a membership that doesn't need your ID
It might be worth a look.
It works only for European citizens and the card costs 25€ by the way. I believe they also still have the Bitsa card with a membership that doesn't need your ID
It might be worth a look.
You can quite happily spend bitcoin at anywhere which accepts bitcoin directly without having to hand out your KYC, but as soon as you want to interact with the fiat monetary system is where things become more complicated.
Unfortunately not all countries allowing people to do transaction with other currencies except their own country's currency.I hear you. I understand how that crypto debit cards works. It is act like an exchange everytime we do transaction with the card. Exchanging our coins to fiat in the current rates. That's why they need kyc.
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc? I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
The nature of use is what determines whether the card requires identity verification or not.I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
Most of the purchase related to bank accounts require identity verification, and therefore your identity must be determined because they are governed by money laundering laws.
Services that can be paid with gift cards are those that accept "Crypto debit card without kyc."
The company that issues the debt cards can say they are not asking for identity verification above is what determines whether or not they will ask for the identity.
BTW Bitcoin is Pseudonymous
I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
Bitcoin was never designed to be anonymous, but the reason you need to expose your identity is not because of bitcoin, but because of fiat. You can quite happily spend bitcoin at anywhere which accepts bitcoin directly without having to hand out your KYC, but as soon as you want to interact with the fiat monetary system is where things become more complicated.As far as I am aware, there are no completely legitimate services which offer non-KYC debit or credit cards. Everywhere I have seen which does offer such a product is doing so either illegally, using somebody else's details, etc. The best alternative option is to buy gift cards for the retailer or merchant you are interested in shopping with (List - Gift cards providers), or use your bitcoin to purchase a pre-paid debit card.
You do not need to. You can trade peer to peer on platforms like bisq and hodlhodl; without the need for KYC.
Trading below certain amounts on some centralized exchanges also doesn't require KYC.
No I am mentioning a card that can be use to purchase or pay something in the regular store. Something like binance card.Trading below certain amounts on some centralized exchanges also doesn't require KYC.
Of course there is bunch of dex outside there but that's not what I meant.
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc?
I do not know of any such service which does need KYC details. A debit card needs to be linked to an account, where funds can be debited from, could be with a bank or a centralized exchange, which would act as the third party and certain details would become necessary.I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
You do not need to. You can trade peer to peer on platforms like bisq and hodlhodl; without the need for KYC.Trading below certain amounts on some centralized exchanges also doesn't require KYC.
Is there any crypto debit card provider that can be order without entering kyc? I mean if bitcoin made anonymously, why do we need to expose our identity to spend our bitcoin?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
I understand it is requirements from the third party card issuer like Mastercard or Visa. But is there any way or one service like that?
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