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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 15, 2020, 02:14:30 AM

Yea, I have received the email from Stake as well.

I started to like Stake with the responsible gambling campaign and the Sportsbet functionality, even when the site design is not appealing for me. I hope more and more casinos would add similar features to ensure the sustainability of the gambling ecosystem. I mean, it would be better if gamblers could play for a long period instead of one-off gung ho that could put them in trouble and never play again.

Also received that email where you can ban yourself for a period of time, I don't think it will apply for compulsive gambler because they have this will come back and win this time attitude, only responsible gamblers can impose that, but I'm glad Stake.com has something like this, other gambling site should follow their lead.

This wont really be effective anytime yet if you do able to consider on using up this feature it means you are already on the verge of addiction and since you do know that you can access to gamble again once you open it once again which means this is much a pretty useless feature if you ask me but at least they are showing something some concern or care to their players but deep inside they do really hope for playing even more.
Third parties are usually offering this kind of service but i dont really see for this to be effective because gamblers dont approach for help or even doesnt accept nor realize that they are already got addicted.
The more addicted gamblers the more profit could it bring to houses and stopping it is nonsense.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 15, 2020, 02:14:30 AM

Yea, I have received the email from Stake as well.

I started to like Stake with the responsible gambling campaign and the Sportsbet functionality, even when the site design is not appealing for me. I hope more and more casinos would add similar features to ensure the sustainability of the gambling ecosystem. I mean, it would be better if gamblers could play for a long period instead of one-off gung ho that could put them in trouble and never play again.

Also received that email where you can ban yourself for a period of time, I don't think it will apply for compulsive gambler because they have this will come back and win this time attitude, only responsible gamblers can impose that, but I'm glad Stake.com has something like this, other gambling site should follow their lead.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 15, 2020, 06:57:05 PM

Here it is much focused upon the limiting of one's spending on gambling. When the time isn't that supportive for the player if he have pressed the particular button he can't continue playing for specific time period. This is good, but such a feature won't be added easily by the casinos as each and everything is connected with some business. Already the same thing but to limit the spending there is possible way to hold in vault. The funds stored in vault can't be accessed directly. The required amount needs to be moved to the main wallet and further only it can be used.

This way if we can hold what is available to be lost and limit the spending.

Yep,

The only easy way for casinos to implement this would be if a third-party service creates it and provides it to all the major casinos.

However, casinos make money from players losing, so I doubt there is much incentive to add this service.

It's not a casinos fault if players lose money, they also stand the chance to win after all.

Players should have their own willpower.

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Here it is much focused upon the limiting of one's spending on gambling. When the time isn't that supportive for the player if he have pressed the particular button he can't continue playing for specific time period. This is good, but such a feature won't be added easily by the casinos as each and everything is connected with some business. Already the same thing but to limit the spending there is possible way to hold in vault. The funds stored in vault can't be accessed directly. The required amount needs to be moved to the main wallet and further only it can be used.

This way if we can hold what is available to be lost and limit the spending.

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Quote from: josephdd1 on February 15, 2020, 06:51:50 PM

Do they

Isn't it all up to the player? The role of a casino is to provide games and entertainment for you in every shape and form they can, and with this in mind then why would they not profit from the "weak-minded" players? I don't see a casino adding this feature any time soon as it would limit their potential profit which is their main agenda, rather than making sure their customers are not betting more than they can afford to.

They wouldnt really care at all in the first place and yes, why would they create or mind too much into their players for them to play even more? This is what their own motive or goal
and making things which would contradict to their main aim sounds pretty dumb.Its only up to the player on how he do handle out themselves and gambling sites/houses wont really care
if you bet on moderation or impulsive behavior.

Results or consequences will really vary or depend on how a certain person will deal about his gambling activity.

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Do they

Isn't it all up to the player? The role of a casino is to provide games and entertainment for you in every shape and form they can, and with this in mind then why would they not profit from the "weak-minded" players? I don't see a casino adding this feature any time soon as it would limit their potential profit which is their main agenda, rather than making sure their customers are not betting more than they can afford to.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on January 31, 2020, 02:57:49 PM

Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites.
Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.

I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling.
In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites.
I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.

Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue.
But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.

I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time

I think a lot of gambling sites don't have this feature because they want us to keep gambling. By law they just need to have a disclaimer about responsible gambling. Almost every site has this which protects them from being sued but I do agree with you that there should be more done to help people who can't keep control of their spending. I know some sites have lock out periods or a pop up comes up saying that you reached your limit and to take a break if that's the settings you have set. Its just that not all sites have this especially crypto gambling sites but I think this will all change in the future.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on January 31, 2020, 02:57:49 PM

Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites.
Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.

I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling.
In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites.
I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.

Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue.
But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.

I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time

If you want to close down your account then you do not really need to do anything but to change the password of your account to some random numbers and letters and do the same with the email account linked to it and that will get rid of the account, now about the functionality to put limits to your gambling activity that will be a great idea but unless those casinos are forced by the law to implement that I have my doubts we are going to see that feature in cryptocurrency casinos.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on January 31, 2020, 02:57:49 PM

Lately, I've been gambling a bit too much again and it's impossible to add limits to most crypto gambling websites.
Heck, I've found it to be impossible to just remove your account, without contacting support.

I think it should be mandatory, or at least standard, to include easy ways to prevent members from gambling.
In my country (Belgium), legal gambling websites are required to have player-imposed limits, plus general limits on their websites.
I wish crypto-based gambling websites would do the same.

Anyway, I've just sent an e-mail to the one casino I was still playing on, to close down my account. I hope they'll do that without any issue.
But still, I wish they would just add a function to do it by yourself, or add some self-control functionality.

I.e. let people exclude themselves for X amount of time

Gamblers tend to surpass their limits whenever they feel good or frustrated that's why adding a self control functionality would definitely help a lot most specially to those who have severe addiction. Instead of gambling sites being too greedy, they should instead mind their players monetary status so that they can still keep on gambling without experiencing bankruptcy. Anything that is too much in this world can destroy you that's why self control is a must and shouldn't be ignored by everyone most specially for the gamblers.

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Yea, I have received the email from Stake as well.

I started to like Stake with the responsible gambling campaign and the Sportsbet functionality, even when the site design is not appealing for me. I hope more and more casinos would add similar features to ensure the sustainability of the gambling ecosystem. I mean, it would be better if gamblers could play for a long period instead of one-off gung ho that could put them in trouble and never play again.

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One gambling site that has this kind of feature is Stake.com

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Stake is committed to responsible gambling.

We want to remind you about the options we have to help you manage your gambling.

Did you know that we allow for self-exclusion at any time, to have your account banned from our platform?

We also allow for a cooling-off period, where we can welcome you back within 24 hours.

Gambling should be treated as an enjoyable pastime - we urge you to stay in control.

Our support team is available 24/7 to talk to you regarding any concerns on this or any other matter, so please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards,
The Stake Team.

I just received a notification on this and this is really a good option I just wonder how many members of Stake are going to use this feature.

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No mechanism or system can stop human for doing what they are addicted to, so I think you should focus on yourself development with regards to gambling, This closing account feature will not be useful (for me). I believe that the majority of the gamblers will agree with me.

Don't you think this is sarcastic? I mean, how can someone going to have his self-development if he keeps playing gambling. As you mentioned above, an addicted person would do anything to feed his addiction, and that being said, it means that in order for him to create something in his life that will benefit him in the long run, he should closed his account or stop playing gambling for good also.

Because to be honest, implementing the self-control functionality in a gambling site would make the gambling addiction problem even more chaotic than before.

For me having self control is one way to achieve your goal and icreases decision making capacity. When we practice self-control it becomes easy to us to decisions because our minds swap to simpler process. And I think when we do it regularly there is a better chance at being able to move past and they avoid situations in which they have to choose between desires.

In order for us to have self-control, we should first focusing in our intrapersonal skill which is skill talking to yourself because it is a way in order to improve our psychology when we do gambling. Most of our decisions are base on our emotions, if we have self control then we can have proper decisions and avoid mistakes in gambling. Addiction can also be avoided if we focus on improving our self control and enhancing our psychology when we do gambling.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 07, 2020, 01:07:18 AM

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No mechanism or system can stop human for doing what they are addicted to, so I think you should focus on yourself development with regards to gambling, This closing account feature will not be useful (for me). I believe that the majority of the gamblers will agree with me.

Don't you think this is sarcastic? I mean, how can someone going to have his self-development if he keeps playing gambling. As you mentioned above, an addicted person would do anything to feed his addiction, and that being said, it means that in order for him to create something in his life that will benefit him in the long run, he should closed his account or stop playing gambling for good also.

Because to be honest, implementing the self-control functionality in a gambling site would make the gambling addiction problem even more chaotic than before.

For me having self control is one way to achieve your goal and icreases decision making capacity. When we practice self-control it becomes easy to us to decisions because our minds swap to simpler process. And I think when we do it regularly there is a better chance at being able to move past and they avoid situations in which they have to choose between desires.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 07, 2020, 01:07:18 AM

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No mechanism or system can stop human for doing what they are addicted to, so I think you should focus on yourself development with regards to gambling, This closing account feature will not be useful (for me). I believe that the majority of the gamblers will agree with me.

Don't you think this is sarcastic? I mean, how can someone going to have his self-development if he keeps playing gambling. As you mentioned above, an addicted person would do anything to feed his addiction, and that being said, it means that in order for him to create something in his life that will benefit him in the long run, he should closed his account or stop playing gambling for good also.

Because to be honest, implementing the self-control functionality in a gambling site would make the gambling addiction problem even more chaotic than before.

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There's a hundred of gambling website's out there so basically what are you asking is easy to do yet, useless. Imagine if you close your account then your mind feels like to play, you can easily create a new account on every single gambling website here on the internet and continue playing. What you need to do is control yourself on gambling addiction. Little by little, lower the time that you are spending on gambling website's or simply gambling and as time passes by, I am sure that you are controlling yourself to stop on gambling when you want. It's not easy, but I think every individual can do it.

No mechanism or system can stop human for doing what they are addicted to, so I think you should focus on yourself development with regards to gambling, This closing account feature will not be useful (for me). I believe that the majority of the gamblers will agree with me.

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We all know that playing gambling can satisfy our selves to have fun and to play gambling some of the player today goes play all day because they are now focusing to the earnings on gambling even they know it is riskier still they want to play those games because they are confident they will win the game and earn a lot of profit they use gambling as their job for a while to collect. Still, there are people who wants to play gambling because they want to make extra money and enjoy the game. Playing gambling is too hard to stop, but still, we need to control ourselves to avoid having trouble to our time management while playing we did not recognize how many hours we spent on playing it is better to control and monitor the same with the money we spent too to avoid losing a considerable amount of money.

If they are focusing only on the earnings, they will risk their money in gambling because they cannot make that earning. They are playing gambling because they see other people can get the win money, and that is why they follow them and try to get the winning. If you have control for yourself, you don't have to feel it is hard to stop because you will find that you can stop anytime without a problem. I agree that we need to manage our time in gambling, so we don't spend time too long.

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that is what exactly i am pointing,Gamblers will always Find way to gamble even if there is features like this because it is their money that being risk and their life that getting worst so why need to cover for their wanting?
i think what we all need is a proper information about what and how really gambling works.
it is not the way we see it as profiteering place instead it is the other way around so better not to risk our life but just enjot the game.

I am sure the gambler will get what they want because they will search the other way to still playing gambling. So far, when people are playing gambling, they don't seek that information because their reason for playing gambling is only searched for fun and try to kill their time. And as time goes by, they slowly become addicted to gambling, but they don't seek the information about protecting themselves in gambling. So that makes them become heavy addicted to gambling, and they will be hard to cure the addicting.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on February 04, 2020, 06:11:22 PM

This is the problem. Even after the control mechanism is triggered, if a person wants to, he can create a new account or return to the game in some other way.
Thus, we return to the fact that creating such a mechanism is rather difficult. At a minimum, a third party is needed that will be able to completely block access to all Gambling resources on the device.

However, whether this will be an excessive measure, because something will have more authority on our device than ourselves.
In any case, I think if a person has problems with how much money he can lose, then he himself needs to realize this , and take control.

It makes no sense to rely on others; only you can solve your problems.

Most gambling websites (at least most of those I've joined) require KYC anyway, so creating a new account isn't an option. But self-control should come from the individual betting, not from the website.. that's why it's called self-control..

The best thing a casino can do is to add some sort of timeout the user can set.. for example, they could let you choose not to be able to bet for X minutes. But again, if one wants to play their money out, they will anyway.. so it's useless

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Quote from: rexxarofmoknathal on February 06, 2020, 05:36:48 PM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on February 06, 2020, 05:16:48 PM

Quote from: bgaf on February 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

I dont think a private firm who owns cryptocurrency casinos will implement this idea. Maybe they can add some ground warnings but adding this feature will also make their profits goes thinner. As a businessman do you think they would allow that?

Many gamblers have a habit of losing too much because too much greed and cant control themselves. IMO, if you cant control yourself then better to stop playing if this attitude is hard to control. Playing gambling is more than just an entertainment but can also lead to addiction. Some will also disagree to put this feature as if they will be mandated to follow rules to avoid this objective that should start first with discipline when playing this kind of game that involves money.

You are absolutely right, those gambling websites want to rip money from their gamblers as much as they can. Yes, they will give you warnings or help reference sites for gambling addiction but honestly, have you heard any online or offline casino site which is concerned with their player's welfare in terms of spending money? It is the gambler's responsibility to have self-control and not the site that he is playing with. They won't care how much you will spend to them. For them, the more the better.

Not all casinos are trying to drain customers for all their money.

Take a look at luckydice.com, you'll find that they're actually trying to provide users with an enjoyable experience while playing, and still manages to keep alow house edge.

Likewise, there's also platforms like Nitrogen Sports and other sportsbooks that don't take any direct cut, they just make a profit on the odds spread.

Also, I don't believe the platforms have no role, they should act responsibly, and any platform worth its salt usually does.

It depends on the type of game we are playing here but normally people spend big money on games where they think they can use their skills to win, like sports betting. Some sites have a feature to help gamblers control but that doesn't really play a big rule in the world of crypto gambling as we are doing it anonymously and anytime with a new username and email, we can gamble again.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on February 06, 2020, 05:16:48 PM

Quote from: bgaf on February 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

I dont think a private firm who owns cryptocurrency casinos will implement this idea. Maybe they can add some ground warnings but adding this feature will also make their profits goes thinner. As a businessman do you think they would allow that?

Many gamblers have a habit of losing too much because too much greed and cant control themselves. IMO, if you cant control yourself then better to stop playing if this attitude is hard to control. Playing gambling is more than just an entertainment but can also lead to addiction. Some will also disagree to put this feature as if they will be mandated to follow rules to avoid this objective that should start first with discipline when playing this kind of game that involves money.

You are absolutely right, those gambling websites want to rip money from their gamblers as much as they can. Yes, they will give you warnings or help reference sites for gambling addiction but honestly, have you heard any online or offline casino site which is concerned with their player's welfare in terms of spending money? It is the gambler's responsibility to have self-control and not the site that he is playing with. They won't care how much you will spend to them. For them, the more the better.

Not all casinos are trying to drain customers for all their money.

Take a look at luckydice.com, you'll find that they're actually trying to provide users with an enjoyable experience while playing, and still manages to keep alow house edge.

Likewise, there's also platforms like Nitrogen Sports and other sportsbooks that don't take any direct cut, they just make a profit on the odds spread.

Also, I don't believe the platforms have no role, they should act responsibly, and any platform worth its salt usually does.

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Quote from: bgaf on February 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

I dont think a private firm who owns cryptocurrency casinos will implement this idea. Maybe they can add some ground warnings but adding this feature will also make their profits goes thinner. As a businessman do you think they would allow that?

Many gamblers have a habit of losing too much because too much greed and cant control themselves. IMO, if you cant control yourself then better to stop playing if this attitude is hard to control. Playing gambling is more than just an entertainment but can also lead to addiction. Some will also disagree to put this feature as if they will be mandated to follow rules to avoid this objective that should start first with discipline when playing this kind of game that involves money.

You are absolutely right, those gambling websites want to rip money from their gamblers as much as they can. Yes, they will give you warnings or help reference sites for gambling addiction but honestly, have you heard any online or offline casino site which is concerned with their player's welfare in terms of spending money? It is the gambler's responsibility to have self-control and not the site that he is playing with. They won't care how much you will spend to them. For them, the more the better.

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