Topic: Crypto in Church. - page 2. (Read 781 times)

It's good religious people are adopting and learning about cryptocurrency, but the church isn't the appropriate place for this kind of apprenticeship. The preacher can incentive his community to persue wealthy and to thrive in life through Holy Bible, but can't mix religion with trading lessons.

For me it actually looks dangerous because his religious authority position can be misunderstood and have its meaning and purpose subverted. As we know, many crypto gurus attempt to impress the audience in order to profit over common people.

Unfortunatelly, in religious environments it's not different. There are many false prophets lurking around!

there are still many religious leaders, both in Christianity and other religions, who have not fully explored and know crypto well, so it's only natural that there will be rejection, maybe even more extreme than just an appeal.

you may be right that there may be some churches that don't recommend anything crypto related.
the church should not need to interfere in whatever its people do in detail, the most important thing is information in general about the good and bad about what their people will do and not go into detail with the appeal about crypto.

because if it is detailed, it can be ascertained that there can be a wrong appeal because crypto can be good and it doesn't just depend on who does it.
so investing in crypto if it is run well it can provide benefits for those who do it without having to do something that is prohibited.

So if I should ask, Who is a priest? A priest is the spiritual father of the congregation, the one who intercedes on behave of the people to God and responsible for our spiritual well bring. So to me I see nothing wrong with a priest organizing a crypto class with his congregation to educate them on the new current trending topic of discussion @ "cryptocurrency".. Because I have seen churches who organize seminars on health talks whereby a Medical doctor is being invited to educate the congregation about healthy living at home on how to take proper care of there body, eat healthy food and best ways to prevent oneself from most common illnesses (HIV AIDS, Breast cancer, Kidney failure). And I have also seen churches who organize seminars on security, i.e how to be security conscious in the society. And I have also seen churches who organize seminars on skill acquisition and e.t.c.   So how then is it bad for a priest to organize seminars on cryptocurrency, a trending topic that has been a talk of the Town for the past 7-12years now, an have made many millionaire within a short while?.
So as long as the priest only educate the people, while they make the decision to either further or not, I clearly see nothing wrong with that

Doesn't it say somewhere about the return of the messiah being a big surprise that most won't see coming? Like lightning over our heads, or a second sun moving east to west in the sky above? Like a thief in the night, when we least expect it? Maybe it's the Lightning network

Pennies from heaven.

Imo, this is a plus to the crypto community and Bitcoin to be precise because in every institution that teaches about cryptocurrency the main focus is always Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the oldest and most accepted cryptocurrency.  The information given to the church members by the clergyman will help to encourage more people to worship in that particular church center because once the people who have been taught about the usefulness of Bitcoin and the financial freedom that it brings start practicing and enjoying the financial liberty in Bitcoin, they will spread the good news to others and more people will see more reasons to welcome Bitcoin as a means of their transaction and Bitcoin will continue to gain more popularity.

If only a few words spoken by the speaker because it has something to do with bitcoin or crypto and technology are discussed, I think it doesn't matter as long as there is no solicitation or incitement and the lecture is entirely about crypto or bitcoin.
because holy places like church or other is not the right place, unless you are talking about it in private or seminar which clearly knows what to talk about.
but as long as it's not misleading I think it's good and for the good of the people who hear it but explaining crypto or bitcoin is not as easy and fast as we think and must be at the right time and place and also with the right person.

Bitcoin is for everybody, so—sure, it’s good for churches.  Bitcoin is permissionless, so even Satan himself couldn’t censor their transactions.

I will note that religion has been in Bitcoin for a long time:  bitcult.faith

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That is a repudiation of the whole concept of religion.

I am not quite defending religion here; and I am definitely not defending Christianity.  As to the latter, I agree with Nietzsche, “Ich verurteile das Christentum, ich erhebe gegen die christliche Kirche die furchtbarste aller Anklagen, die je ein Ankläger in den Mund genommen hat.  Sie ist mir die höchste aller denkbaren Korruptionen, sie hat den Willen zur letzten auch nur möglichen Korruption gehabt.”

However, I recognize that to be logically consistent and arguably sincere, religionists must take religion seriously.  A religion which is disconnected from “politics, finance, educations, science”, generally unimportant, and irrelevant to most aspects of a person’s life, is not a religion in any meaningful sense of the word.

To profess atheism is to proclaim that there are no gods.  To preach that religion should be rendered practically meaningless is to proclaim that even if there are any gods, they should be slapped in the face.

(Compare and contrast the commonplace proposition of liberal religionists who say that it doesn’t matter what you believe, as long as you believe in something of a mystical nature.  That is not only a repudiation of the concept of religion, but also a denial of the concept of truth; and it is to apotheosize irrationality.)


Given the profitability of selling salvation, I would not be surprised.  But I think they will find it better to stick with Bitcoin.

I am of catholic religion, and something that I believe is that anyone who says that he needs money in the name of God is wrong, GOD does not want money, only that people accept it in their hearts, those priests or pastors who proclaim that they give their a tithe of a % of what they earn is for themselves, for God, to reach him you don't need money, I think that one of the things that should never be mixed is religion + money and politics, I think that's worse combination, it is much better than faith and what has to do with God is with God, the rest such as money should not be in agreement there.

Focus less on the reward/profit/money and more on it's principles & tech , which is expected to help the church be independent of evil system during the reign of global tyranny, persecution of the church, mass exodus from the system and possibly the enforcement of Revelation 13:17. This is why it's very important to always stick to True Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin with its strong principles. If you choose the fake or benefits from them, you may be left behind. So becareful what you choose. Love of money is root of all evil

Judging for the few news I have seen about the position of some churches on Bitcoin here in South America, I'd say some churches/religion organizations value things like "trust" and "faith" greatly.

I recall an article I shared when I was new here in Bitcointalk about a pastor who openly said that Bitcoin was the mark of the beast or something like it, because trust was a Christian value and a trustless currency/system can't be Chirstian, for example.

So it depends on the branch of one's religion or even the personal opinion of one's pastor when comes to the "spiritual impact" Bitcoin has over us, it seems.

Well I may say it is a plus and  a part of the cypto currency awareness orientations that is going on in the world now. Really most religious preachers preached against crypto currencies base on ignorant while those religious leaders that understand how crpto currency works, accept it with a good faith. This campaign is not a one man job but for all the cypto currency users because we are trying to use crypto currency as the major coin to exchange goods and services, so if anyone is trying his or her best to propagate the currency, we should encourage the person. And I also believe that the pastor of the church will accept bitcoin in the offering and tithe box or probably he might open tithe or offering wallet in the church to promote the coin.

That not withstanding, We should also remember that not all the pastor in the alter are genuine pastors oh. Because by the right the pastor that the OP mentioned not supposed to teach people crypto currency in the church. He would have organized it outside the church. Now if this story is really true, the so called has blaspheme the church. That is, people will call that as a investment platform. As Christians, we can only give crypto testimonies and thanksgiving in the church but not using the church auditorium as a seminar center.

Teaching about cryptocurrency is good, because there are so many people who doesn't have awareness about the existence of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Guiding them to invest and profit too is good, but the same needs to be allowed on their personal interest. Because, with the learning he/she had through the session they should know decide whether to invest or not.

well bitcoin is a currency that has already reached a worldwide level of acceptance, that's why churches can no longer ignore bitcoin, since there's nothing wrong with someone donating bitcoin to a church. now churches will have to create conditions for people to make bitcoin donations. One thing I've been asking myself:

Where do these church donations go?

anyway it seems that this is a question that would bother me if i asked in church

I mean it's not a bad thing that's true, but are we talking about something that should be done by a priest? Don't get me wrong, anyone can do whatever they want personally, but when you have a job as a priest then you are responsible for something else other than people's money.

If you talk about crypto like it's good or bad, doesn't matter, that means as a priest you have a big chance to influence people and that's not really an easy thing to do, I would be scared to do something like this if I had that kind of power. He could literally cause people to buy millions of bitcoins just because he said it compared to if I said it, and that would be the scary part, what if they lose money?

I'm starting to believe that churches are like businesses since it may seem look that way considering they now share and preach things beyond the churches knowledge. Well, whatever I've seen worse than this and everything seems to be happening in all kinds of stuff in crypto space and as long as this will benefit the Bitcoin community then I am not against with it. I'll wait what the media would do when they know this kind of stuff.

Things like this are understandable because with the wide popularity of cryptocurrencies nowadays, churches will find some way to get their hands on this kind of opportunity where they give their people options to donate with their crypto assets. Anyway, we expect to see more of this in the future because it will gonna spread once they saw it works well and they gathered a huge amount of money from it. they will make their own version and maybe they make rules out of it.

NG is the same place where you have preachers who claim to exorcise demons from people with sexual penetration, and where there's a famous pastor who apparently has God's direct phone number and speaks to him with a mobile phone.

Oh but that's not just NG, almost every place where religion is a fervour, you have all kinds of magic men and prophets claiming all kinds of things.

They're not about to leave Bitcoin alone.

This is absolutely a great job done by the pastor and the professional, teaching the congregation about the basic key importance and knowledge of Bitcoin. I just wish the pastor was a member of the forum, because he would have definitely gotten 5 merits from me for such wonderful job well done. Because this is actually the kind of pastors we need now in this current hardship, a one that will give you update on how to be financially free here on Earth while he is preparing you to make heaven. It will likely reduce the rate of poverty in some countries.

Of course, this is an added value and special attention for religious people towards Crypto/digital currency.

Maybe in this case we should understand that every believer has a Bible and his own understanding of the use of crypto, I remember the refusal of donations by the (Russian Orthodox Church) in the form of crypto, they believe in crypto usury, for that they do not want to accept donations in the form of crypto, let alone to educate and teach them.

However, in contrast to the understanding of Christians, they do not find a specific prohibition in the Bible about crypto, but they have an understanding of what can be done and what cannot be done, bottom line: consider the good and the bad for the church community, family and others.

I believe what christians/churches do, they believe crypto is technology, it is an attitude and motivation for pastors and including people who believe crypto brings good for them in investing, depending on their attitude and motivation to do so, I think that's a reasonable thing considering the age of technology agnostic.

Cryptocurrencies are money and money is the root of all evil, according to almost every religion.
I have nothing against some pastor educating it's people about the risks of dealing with cryptocurrency trading and investing.
However, this looks really cringe, if you ask me.  The church is definitely the wrong place to teach people how to invest and trade.
Anyway, perhaps some protestant TV evangelists might adopt cryptocurrency donations. This doesn't seem like a wrong approach(if the coins are spent for a good cause). The problem is that most TV evangelists are greedy fanatics, who want to brainwash as many people as possible and make more money out of them.