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Quote from: shoreno on January 21, 2020, 01:06:20 PM

ofc its always a mystery because everything on crypto are anonymous or hidden . we dont know if the demand comes from real single people or only came from group of people that only wants to control the price again and again . organic means natural right ? well id think i give to the organic gains this time because people are expecting huge for the upcoming halving . war is the other reason on why i say that the gain is organic . but for a normal year that is nothing to expect , if we see a strange growth , high chance that is artificial .

Nice points but for now the war threat died down already so has no impact on the market. I also think it's organic growth, but we have to be careful from 25th January to 8th of Next month since Chinese new year might cause a dump, I'm not sure. However, I'm impressed with the market lately, it gives hope.

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Quote from: shoreno on January 21, 2020, 01:06:20 PM

ofc its always a mystery because everything on crypto are anonymous or hidden . we dont know if the demand comes from real single people or only came from group of people that only wants to control the price again and again . organic means natural right ? well id think i give to the organic gains this time because people are expecting huge for the upcoming halving . war is the other reason on why i say that the gain is organic . but for a normal year that is nothing to expect , if we see a strange growth , high chance that is artificial .

The organic growth is not the case here, many people will act in the bulk-buying activities due to the taking back the control of the market. The volatility is not going to hit the highest level if the BTC whales become less than 5% of the total wallet holders. The Google search trend for BTC is at the peak again after 1 year but this is not a good indicator.

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ofc its always a mystery because everything on crypto are anonymous or hidden . we dont know if the demand comes from real single people or only came from group of people that only wants to control the price again and again . organic means natural right ? well id think i give to the organic gains this time because people are expecting huge for the upcoming halving . war is the other reason on why i say that the gain is organic . but for a normal year that is nothing to expect , if we see a strange growth , high chance that is artificial .

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History is evident that crypto market movements are never sustainable. Sooner or later, prices fall. One day it's $19K and some four months later, it's $3K. So it is hard to believe any gain in Bitcoin's price is long-lasting. However, it doesn't mean growth has to be artificial. Market have several traders having different trading strategy. Some likes to keep coins for long, some sell after achieving targets while some even short their coins. Due to mix-results of various traders' motive, Bitcoin (or crypto market on whole) moves arbitrarily and price is not able to sustain for long.

Sustainability after all is not what the market players and makers look for. They need the prices to rise as much as they need the prices to fall. The rising and falling are both good as a matter of fact. The rising is for taking away the gains and the profit made through the days, weeks, months, and years of trading and the falling is a time for refilling the wallets.

Such up and down movements maybe good for traders like us who know the market behaviour of bitcoin but what about other investors? Will they ever dare to invest in bitcoin if bitcoin continue to make circular movement in prices? High volatility is the main reason why most of the renowned investors like Warren Buffet regarded bitcoin as bubble. It won't be considered as serious investment unless its market stabilizes by some degrees.

I don't think the reason why Warren Buffet regarded Bitcoin as a bubble is due to its high volatility. Warren Buffet considers Bitcoin as such because it lacks a value on its own, a face value, a value intrinsic to itself. Warren was not looking for stability. He was looking for intrinsic value.

Investors always look for ups and downs as those are exit and entry points for them, respectively.

Yeah crypto market is volatile and we don’t know how the price will move this year. The price is improving now so should take advantage of last fall of price and buy more till up in market. I like this volatility as it gives me opportunity to buy some profit able coins at very suitable price and the best thing is high probabilities of its rise in price within time.

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Quote from: crypto01721 on January 19, 2020, 01:10:10 PM

Lately the market is showing some positive gains in BTC and most of top altcoins too, but how long it will sustain? and the most common question was is it an organic gains? or just an artificially driven? for me the market movements was remain a mystery maybe it was an organic gains or just artificially driven.

No one will literally know about the price movement of both Bitcoin and Altcoins because as we all know, cryptocurrencies are always open to volatility in which changes in terms of price can happen in no time so the price movement is really unpredictable and that will be too hard to determine on which direction will the price go every now and then. We have started this year with a very kick start because of what we have witnessed with regards to the price movement behavior of Bitcoin together with the Altcoins that rely or depend their prices into it. Also, the top ranked Altcoins are also showing positivity. Let us just be contented on what is currently happening and just hope for the best things to come in the next days, weeks and months instead of over thinking if this is just temporary.

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 21, 2020, 07:00:10 AM

Such up and down movements maybe good for traders like us who know the market behaviour of bitcoin but what about other investors? Will they ever dare to invest in bitcoin if bitcoin continue to make circular movement in prices? High volatility is the main reason why most of the renowned investors like Warren Buffet regarded bitcoin as bubble. It won't be considered as serious investment unless its market stabilizes by some degrees.

What is the basic that every investor should do before investing in any market, they need to study the market completely before investing and if they do they will come to know the volatility level of the bitcoin market and if someone is not taking the time to study the market fluctuation then he might get burned and never come back again but you need to do the basics in every investment and there is no excuse about it.

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Quote from: crypto01721 on January 19, 2020, 01:10:10 PM

Lately the market is showing some positive gains in BTC and most of top altcoins too, but how long it will sustain? and the most common question was is it an organic gains? or just an artificially driven? for me the market movements was remain a mystery maybe it was an organic gains or just artificially driven.

It didn't sustain for a long time and yesterday I think the price of Bitcoin went down from around 9200 to around 8600 immediately.

Crypto market is a speculative market so it really is moving like a "mystery" indeed. I think you can change the word mystery that you use to volatility because the market is very volatile as always. Tomorrow it will go up by $300 and the next day it will went down by $500. Well, this is also happening in stock market although the correction is lower. Investors are always setting a target selling price.

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 20, 2020, 08:57:13 AM

History is evident that crypto market movements are never sustainable. Sooner or later, prices fall. One day it's $19K and some four months later, it's $3K. So it is hard to believe any gain in Bitcoin's price is long-lasting. However, it doesn't mean growth has to be artificial. Market have several traders having different trading strategy. Some likes to keep coins for long, some sell after achieving targets while some even short their coins. Due to mix-results of various traders' motive, Bitcoin (or crypto market on whole) moves arbitrarily and price is not able to sustain for long.

Sustainability after all is not what the market players and makers look for. They need the prices to rise as much as they need the prices to fall. The rising and falling are both good as a matter of fact. The rising is for taking away the gains and the profit made through the days, weeks, months, and years of trading and the falling is a time for refilling the wallets.

Such up and down movements maybe good for traders like us who know the market behaviour of bitcoin but what about other investors? Will they ever dare to invest in bitcoin if bitcoin continue to make circular movement in prices? High volatility is the main reason why most of the renowned investors like Warren Buffet regarded bitcoin as bubble. It won't be considered as serious investment unless its market stabilizes by some degrees.

I don't think the reason why Warren Buffet regarded Bitcoin as a bubble is due to its high volatility. Warren Buffet considers Bitcoin as such because it lacks a value on its own, a face value, a value intrinsic to itself. Warren was not looking for stability. He was looking for intrinsic value.

Investors always look for ups and downs as those are exit and entry points for them, respectively.

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Quote from: crypto01721 on January 19, 2020, 01:10:10 PM

Lately the market is showing some positive gains in BTC and most of top altcoins too, but how long it will sustain? and the most common question was is it an organic gains? or just an artificially driven? for me the market movements was remain a mystery maybe it was an organic gains or just artificially driven.

The crypto market movement is not a mystery it is called volatility. The volatility of the market relies on different factors such as price manipulation, hype, FUD, Fomo, actual demand etc. Since crypto is an speculative asset, it is normal that the market price will be highly volatile which was taken advantage by those who have enough fund to influence the market. It is not the mystery that is moving around the crypto market but the manipulation and influence of some few individual who has huge amount of funds.

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Quote from: crypto01721 on January 19, 2020, 01:10:10 PM

Lately the market is showing some positive gains in BTC and most of top altcoins too, but how long it will sustain? and the most common question was is it an organic gains? or just an artificially driven? for me the market movements was remain a mystery maybe it was an organic gains or just artificially driven.

Only bitcoin investors are able to make biggest gains here which is why I keep saying bitcoin should be every investors top priority, only few top altcoins yield something like, EOS, ETH, BCH, BSV but these gains aren't big enough like bitcoin gains

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Quote from: Images21 on January 21, 2020, 06:28:33 AM

Quote from: worle1bm on January 20, 2020, 08:57:13 AM

History is evident that crypto market movements are never sustainable. Sooner or later, prices fall. One day it's $19K and some four months later, it's $3K. So it is hard to believe any gain in Bitcoin's price is long-lasting. However, it doesn't mean growth has to be artificial. Market have several traders having different trading strategy. Some likes to keep coins for long, some sell after achieving targets while some even short their coins. Due to mix-results of various traders' motive, Bitcoin (or crypto market on whole) moves arbitrarily and price is not able to sustain for long.

Sustainability after all is not what the market players and makers look for. They need the prices to rise as much as they need the prices to fall. The rising and falling are both good as a matter of fact. The rising is for taking away the gains and the profit made through the days, weeks, months, and years of trading and the falling is a time for refilling the wallets.

Such up and down movements maybe good for traders like us who know the market behaviour of bitcoin but what about other investors? Will they ever dare to invest in bitcoin if bitcoin continue to make circular movement in prices? High volatility is the main reason why most of the renowned investors like Warren Buffet regarded bitcoin as bubble. It won't be considered as serious investment unless its market stabilizes by some degrees.

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Everything looks well, there is a huge resistance level 9100-9250, Bitcoin tried to break this resistance level but failed, initially price dropped into support level. there is a strong support at 8800, i think it is mother of buy zone..

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 20, 2020, 08:57:13 AM

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Quote from: crypto01721 on January 19, 2020, 01:10:10 PM

Lately the market is showing some positive gains in BTC and most of top altcoins too, but how long it will sustain? and the most common question was is it an organic gains? or just an artificially driven? for me the market movements was remain a mystery maybe it was an organic gains or just artificially driven.

As far as sustainability is concerned, I cannot tell, although I believe this year is a better year compared to 2020. So far, we are positively rising. Corrections happen of course, just like now. But I think the rise is not done yet. We will have to once again get back to $9,000 or even beyond in the next few days.

A part of it may not be organic but that would be a minor concern in terms of Bitcoin and other top altcoins except perhaps on BSV.

History is evident that crypto market movements are never sustainable. Sooner or later, prices fall. One day it's $19K and some four months later, it's $3K. So it is hard to believe any gain in Bitcoin's price is long-lasting. However, it doesn't mean growth has to be artificial. Market have several traders having different trading strategy. Some likes to keep coins for long, some sell after achieving targets while some even short their coins. Due to mix-results of various traders' motive, Bitcoin (or crypto market on whole) moves arbitrarily and price is not able to sustain for long.

Sustainability after all is not what the market players and makers look for. They need the prices to rise as much as they need the prices to fall. The rising and falling are both good as a matter of fact. The rising is for taking away the gains and the profit made through the days, weeks, months, and years of trading and the falling is a time for refilling the wallets.

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I think BTC gains in the last few days is a case of manipulations by whales in order to entrap unsuspecting noobs. Although for hodlers of some other cryptocurrency outside BTC, it's a lucky break as they're seriously cashing out. I'd say for all to move with caution as the price might come crashing any moment when the whales wanna cash out.

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I think this depends on the trend, when many people love crypto it has a positive effect on the price, and vice versa. but the improvement of services in crypto also contributes to its development, the more innovation and profit, the more bitcoiners will be needed to carry out its activities

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Well sorry to say, but from my perspection, it is more off manipulation
Not only in crypto market, it applies to all the financial market
It is just up to how big can they push/dump the price

Crypto marketcap is so small where a trigger of $20-50Million can push down the market by a domino effect

Yet, that doesn't mean that market cannot grow organic over time
When people dump/pump, there will be buyers who become holders, sellers who then rebuy into it if they regret selling too early
All of these takes time to form

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The market will be like that and never know where the market moves, but we can predict where the market will moves if we can analyze the price. But even though we can predict the market, we still need to be careful because the market can be at any price. I think in the future, the price will be too volatile than now, and we will feel difficult to know where the coin price will be. That is why we always need to stay aware of the current situation so we can decide based on the current situation.

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I dont wonder if crypto market is very volatile, it can go up or down dramatically
it is clear because of lack of regulations so whale can easily manipulate cryptocurrency price

Personally, I dont care about that. what I care is about how to make profit by taking advantage of volality
so, no matter where the price goes, as long as I can take advantage, it is okay for me

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Can you please name the most top altcoins that are going up?
BSV is not realy one on the top. It is just a hype for their master is in trial.

Bitcoin is really something else though. Jumping from one price to another.
$500 dollar changes in just days and then going back up.
It is difficult to predict its market now getting it also harder to trade.

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Quote from: barabarian1 on January 20, 2020, 11:44:02 PM

yes I also think that the crypto market movement is very mysterious. can go up and down suddenly. without apparent reason. from the beginning to the middle of January yesterday bitcoin continued to increase to reach $ 9k. but yesterday and today the price of bitcoin fell again. so I thought yesterday's rise in bitcoin was whale manipulation.

It can be said that the increase in bitcoin a few days ago was just a surge or what was called the pump price. For people buying bitcoin when prices are low and selling some of it a few days ago I think they made the right decision, even though many of us think that bitcoin prices will rise again and provide benefits later but for me personally when there is an opportunity to profit then it's better to take the opportunity.

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