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Topic: Cryptocurrencies now days are more than money! very high cost and fees high now! - page 2. (Read 684 times)

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Where you get this analysis? I have recently traded some bitcoins with very low transaction fees and this exchange also provide a secure wallet.
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Of course it is easier, faster and less expensive than banks to get your money transferred in Bitcoins. You have gotten that cost of trust eliminated if you use Bitcoins to transfer your money. I do not know why you find the fee so high. Did you do the comparative analysis? You could still try to look for alternatives that might enable you to save money that you paid as transaction fee but I think there would be little difference.
Do people still want to compare the transaction fees they pay using a traditional centralized system to what they pay when using the decentralized system of blockchain for their transaction. If we consider so many things that blockchain transaction has even eliminated from the normal ways we have been transacting of business, we would realized that it is not even up to 1 % of what we would have lost if we had gone through the other local way.

I think we just need to learn to appreciate the system and stop looking for everything to be free and to me, most of the transactions I have done through blockchain has been fast enough for me.
Talking about the transaction fee, Bitcoin has dramatically reduced the transaction fee as compared to the banks or other third parties who would charge you something called the cost of trust much higher in value as compared to what you have to bear here. This is the reason people prefer to transfer their money in the form of Bitcoin-and transaction stays between the payer and the payee.
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Obviously, on smaller amount it is getting worse but that is only for bitcoin. If you are going to send a million dollars to someone via bitcoin that is great, but if you want to send 5 bucks to someone you can either use ethereum or any other smaller altcoin.

Quite true. OP, I understand where you are coming from. But i do not think cryptocurrencies are not worth to invest where in fact many of us here are enjoying the profits we've got from bitcoin. There is a solution to your frustrations. I also convert my btc to other altcoins like eth  or xrp to at least lessen the fees. As you can noticed, btc tx's are very slow. Eth and xrp transactions are not.
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Cryptocurrency has now moved into an investment instrument, that's the fact that happened.  This has deviated from the original goal of becoming a currency.  People only intend to save cryptocurrency then wait for the high price to sell it, isn't this an investment concept.

Not just for investment instrument because cryptocurrency now becomes a new way for people to make money. We see that many people still trying to make more money from crypto, and they use many ways to earn more bitcoin or another coin. But we see that the fee was increased too related to the increasing of bitcoin price and that will make people save their bitcoin and only withdraw if they need money.
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Everyone is agree that the cryptocurrency are definitely more valuable than the normal money but we cannot know how to the valuable things properly that's why the cryptocurrency still now not being accepted by people but improving the cryptocurrency is effective for everyone in their future.
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The cost and fee maybe high for now but it will reduce in the future and it's your lost if you don't want yo invest in crypto, there are many people already gained profit, it has been proven really easy to used crypto as a global payment, so if you think crypto doesn't give you easiness then juts don't used it
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If you think that the fees you're seeing right now is high, then wait till the price of Bitcoin goes high to a rate like $20,000 and then you will know what is high fees. Currently the fees we have is not even high if you ask me, cause I can remember that the fees in 2017 was way more high than what it is now to the extent a lot of people started complaining about it. Haters started using that opportunity to talk about price correction lol. So this is a normal thing with cryptocurrency, as the price is going up so will the fees for transaction be going up as well. That's why you will see few people that don't even want the price increase.
Yeah that is right. The fee rises with the amount of money you want to transfer and the rise in the market value of Bitcoin. This is because the fee that is associated with one dollar transaction rises as you keep on increasing the number of dollars after a certain point. And when the value of Bitcoin is high, you of course have to pay a bit high for the transfer of a huge value.
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Cryptocurrency has now moved into an investment instrument, that's the fact that happened.  This has deviated from the original goal of becoming a currency.  People only intend to save cryptocurrency then wait for the high price to sell it, isn't this an investment concept.
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That's the risk of bitcoins price increase, the fees are even getting higher. As for me, we have our own views and perspective in cryptocurrency and yes, fees are making things hard but I still see the bright side of cryptocurrency there. Transaction fees aren't new so we should just deal with it.
Ya it is already happen before and it is more than now, we people must remember when bitcoin price on it's peak, it fees for sure is higher than now. But in other side, our assets value grow too. I think it is consequency in crypto and people who join in it don't have any choice right?
Come on man! A 0.14 USD/tx is charged as a next dollar fee after making a transaction of 6 blocks. I do not find the price as high as you have to give in banks. And since there is a high demand for crypto, and the system operates at the speed of light and there are so many reasons due to which Bitcoin is growing, it is going to go up in values. This is another reason why the prices of Bitcoin wick rise.
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Where you get this analysis? I have recently traded some bitcoins with very low transaction fees and this exchange also provide a secure wallet.
"Trade with Confidence"
Of course it is easier, faster and less expensive than banks to get your money transferred in Bitcoins. You have gotten that cost of trust eliminated if you use Bitcoins to transfer your money. I do not know why you find the fee so high. Did you do the comparative analysis? You could still try to look for alternatives that might enable you to save money that you paid as transaction fee but I think there would be little difference.
Do people still want to compare the transaction fees they pay using a traditional centralized system to what they pay when using the decentralized system of blockchain for their transaction. If we consider so many things that blockchain transaction has even eliminated from the normal ways we have been transacting of business, we would realized that it is not even up to 1 % of what we would have lost if we had gone through the other local way.

I think we just need to learn to appreciate the system and stop looking for everything to be free and to me, most of the transactions I have done through blockchain has been fast enough for me.
hero member
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Where you get this analysis? I have recently traded some bitcoins with very low transaction fees and this exchange also provide a secure wallet.
"Trade with Confidence"
Of course it is easier, faster and less expensive than banks to get your money transferred in Bitcoins. You have gotten that cost of trust eliminated if you use Bitcoins to transfer your money. I do not know why you find the fee so high. Did you do the comparative analysis? You could still try to look for alternatives that might enable you to save money that you paid as transaction fee but I think there would be little difference.
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If you think that the fees you're seeing right now is high, then wait till the price of Bitcoin goes high to a rate like $20,000 and then you will know what is high fees. Currently the fees we have is not even high if you ask me, cause I can remember that the fees in 2017 was way more high than what it is now to the extent a lot of people started complaining about it. Haters started using that opportunity to talk about price correction lol. So this is a normal thing with cryptocurrency, as the price is going up so will the fees for transaction be going up as well. That's why you will see few people that don't even want the price increase.
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But if you the fact right now, the value keep going high.

What does it means ?
More people interest on crypto as investment and as transaction because for me, crypto's transaction still cheaper than fiat
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This problems you mentioned are not common with all the blockchain service provider, the only one I know that is a bit common is that issue of high fees they charge but at the same time, that is why the industry is not a monopolistic one, we have too many options to choose from to get a desirable result.

For the issue of slow transaction, I think it is common with Ethereum, but many people believe that this solution is what Binance has brought and for the issue of transaction fee, I am sure we have some competitor of the project given such challenge that will be able to resolve all these in future, we just have to give the blockchain time to fully develop and I am sure all these will be sorted out.
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You can consider bitcoin like that and I can understand it, bitcoin has been getting much more attention than it anticipated however right now since the transaction counts are higher than anyone ever hoped for we are getting a bit slower and even more expensive. It is still cheaper than anything in big bulk payments, you can send a million dollars in bitcoin with less time and less fee's, in regular bank deals you need to fill paper works for that much money and you need to wait and you pay a lot of money for it, this is why bitcoin is better.

Obviously, on smaller amount it is getting worse but that is only for bitcoin. If you are going to send a million dollars to someone via bitcoin that is great, but if you want to send 5 bucks to someone you can either use ethereum or any other smaller altcoin.
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That's the risk of bitcoins price increase, the fees are even getting higher. As for me, we have our own views and perspective in cryptocurrency and yes, fees are making things hard but I still see the bright side of cryptocurrency there. Transaction fees aren't new so we should just deal with it.
Ya it is already happen before and it is more than now, we people must remember when bitcoin price on it's peak, it fees for sure is higher than now. But in other side, our assets value grow too. I think it is consequency in crypto and people who join in it don't have any choice right?
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I don't see it as a negative thing because that's the only way where exchanges could profit from our transactions. I don't see a negative thing out of it because we are not even paying taxes from our crypto transactions so we shouldn't complain since they are providing us a good service.
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That's the risk of bitcoins price increase, the fees are even getting higher. As for me, we have our own views and perspective in cryptocurrency and yes, fees are making things hard but I still see the bright side of cryptocurrency there. Transaction fees aren't new so we should just deal with it.
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Everyone has their own goals of using cryptocurrencies. Someone wants to use them in real life, then this situation in the market as it is now is not suitable for them. Others use crypto for earnings and they do not need stability, they get money from sharp price changes.
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Some people think it's good to invest in CryptoCurrencies, but I do not think so.
Aren't you saying you don't think crypto is useful as a currency as opposed to an investment?  They're two different things, you know. 

Network fees and confirmation times are definitely a pain in the ass when it comes to bitcoin (usually).  Altcoins generally don't produce the same frustration, but I digress.  But those negative aspects affect bitcoin's utility as a currency.  People who want to buy bitcoin as an investment probably don't really care if it takes a while to get their transaction(s) confirmed, and if that's the case then large fees don't need to be included for transactions anyway.

I agree with most of your points, OP.  I've always been skeptical about bitcoin being a fiat competitor for exactly the reasons you mentioned.  Joe Blow on the street has no reason to figure out a way to buy bitcoin (not always an easy task) in order to buy something that he could just as easily pay for with cash--and that's if the merchant who's selling what Joe Blow wants to buy accepts bitcoin anyway.  This is why most people haven't adopted bitcoin.

But I've always supported bitcoin as an investment.  And it is also useful when you want to buy something online from a merchant that can't accept credit cards (try buying marijuana seeds or kratom or other gray market items with a credit card), and it obviously has been used on the dark markets.  Anyway, looking at the current market price right now it's obvious that investors are looking past all the drawbacks and are seeing bitcoin as an excellent investment.  I'm definitely happy about that.
This is actually the drawback of Bitcoin where prices do tend to rise up and so as with the tx fees due to bloated transaction numbers happening which isnt really a new thing and we have seen this for how many times.
When price surges and so as with that fees so this alone wont really be possible for btc to be a candidate to par up with fiat and i dont know why some people do really pusher with this kind of belief which it isnt really even possible.It do have its own corresponding usage but to think overboard wont really fitted out.
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yea, it is still a currency however and how you rate it depends on the part of the world where you are.one of the most active reason for creating bitcoin is to help distribute wealth. and to achieve this the value must actually worth it. for cryptocurerncy to emerge the world currency, its value must be attractive enough.
Bitcoin is already got enough attention from the common people but the problem is they are considered as investment more than currency.

But the fee is not too high when compared to the year 2017 and its because of segwit implementation on most of the wallets.And soon the mainnet also might increase the transactions speed so the speed will not be a problem in future.
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