Topic: Cryptocurrency as the Imperial End-game - page 2. (Read 669 times)

Yeah, I'm really into this idea of - "If Bitcoin could not be manipulated, I'm pretty certain it would be illegal by now".  

There could be an undertune of why bitcoin has not got the hammer of major world power legislation and the imminent manipulation could be the reason and looming but I think why this is taking time is because of the financial benefit and bitcoin is not the only crypto.

I think such doubts are unfounded, why the elites will go through he trouble of creating something so difficult to control, just look at the Internet despite the censorship you can say almost anything you want on the Internet, there is almost a complete freedom of speech which is not something the elites would want, bitcoin is the same it gives us freedoms we never had, why create such a coin?

Cryptocurrencies won't contribute to the reconstruction, rather they will further degrade the global economy. Why?
No doubt everyone wants to see his nation growing and strengthening but not everyone can contribute to that hugely. It is always government or banks that take steps in the field of economic reforms. But if we substitute the concept of state's money to people's money, government or banks will no longer be the biggest player in economic construction as cryptocurrencies are already distributed among group of people.
The current holders will become new ultra-rich and non-holders will become poor. As a result, economy will crack drastically.

After 1929 and 2008, the international state-bank alliance that the Western elites put together was under pressure to break apart, not come together.  (E.g. France played a key role in delaying a bank bailout in 1931 and the resulting global bank run led to the true Great Depression.)

The elites might inflate a bubble which will inevitably crash, and they might deliberately bust a bubble in a country they want to punish or pressure, but I don't see them deliberately pricking any major bubble.  The reason is that the economic pain that comes as a result will tend to increase awareness and anger towards them.

It will be very hard to do. In order to be able to buy goods with bitcoins need someone to made these products. All manufacturers are working only for Fiat. The government will never let bitcoin in the real economy. I think that bitcoin will always be an exotic currency has no official status. Unless of course bitcoin will not destroy the internal contradictions.

The problem like always is knowing when things like this are going to happen, we know the current system cannot go forever but since they can manipulate the system so well the system could last for many more decades, but once it is over it is obvious the ones in power are going to try to impose a system that benefits them and not the average people, so I think they are going to try to create a world currency, one government and the harmonization of taxes.

Nowadays,such doubts are arising more that bitcoin would have been created by the group which wants a one world order to be established in future.Already,some groups are said to have influencing the world economy and dominating.Such doubt arises since no one actually knows who satoshi is and what forced him to create such a coin which could not be even challenged by any governments.

I think most of us agree a big crash is coming?

The only questions may be: when? And: what the planned end game is for a post crash world?   

There are conspiracy theorists who believe a deliberate crash is intended to setup a one world government. After the next massive bust cycle, bankers could step in and reorganize. They control the wealth inside the global network of tax shelters. That gives them leverage over many world leaders who will agree to anything they propose.

I would like to hear alternate theories. Its an interesting topic. But not much is being said about it.

If Bitcoin could not be manipulated, I'm pretty certain it would be illegal by now.  The state-bank alliance doesn't want a money that competes with theirs.  I think the reason why Bitcoin is doing well is that it will ultimately help the Western elites, in a huge way.

Bitcoin is limited in its nature and has the ability to keep track record of everything, it cannot be manipulated as gold, silver, and anything that is based upon them, because it's not mathematically verified.

I see BTC as the new gold, and second layer networks would allow for a "fiat done right" solution for everyday usage.

The current Empire will either pick a big position in Bitcoin, or will put on a fight trying to destroy Bitcoin, there are no grays here to my knowledge.
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You are right about that. bitcoin is limited in nature and right now every transaction makes the supply less and with less supply the price will get higher, but about the thing that bitcoin cannot be manipulated, i somehow disagree with this, well not fully disagreeing but just somehow. I think that there has been some manipulation that happened in the past, some people with huge amount of money dumping and buying i guess that is an act of manipulation. So to say, somehow bitcoin can be manipulated.

However, it is subject to the simple manipulation that gold suffered under the gold standard: if the central bank has enough of it, it can keep selling it to keep the price constant.  If a saver owns gold/Bitcoin, they have a return of zero and miss out on the interest payment of state-issued currencies.

(Of course, this will only happen after Bitcoin has reached a price much higher than today's.)

The blockchain tracks all transactions, yes, but no one knows who is behind each transaction.  Only the Bitcoin addresses are public.

Bitcoin is limited in its nature and has the ability to keep track record of everything, it cannot be manipulated as gold, silver, and anything that is based upon them, because it's not mathematically verified.

I see BTC as the new gold, and second layer networks would allow for a "fiat done right" solution for everyday usage.

The current Empire will either pick a big position in Bitcoin, or will put on a fight trying to destroy Bitcoin, there are no grays here to my knowledge.

The global empire is tired.  Its real economic output is being surpassed by new, rising powers.  It has issued so much debt that there's no hope of really paying it back.  Its people are used to the good life and are less productive than before, and its prices are too high and can't come down without a disaster.  It has been hit by financial crisis after financial crisis.  Everyone in the know is saying the empire's days are numbered.

But the empire has one last trick.  It manages to get the bankers and politicians in all major economies to change their monetary system so totally that the empire is suddenly much wealthier.  (Don't ask me why those countries agreed to it!)  The empire lasts another half-century in splendor and comfort.

2010s America?  Good guess, but it was 1870s Britain.  Britain talked the US, Germany and France into abandoning silver as money and using gold exclusively.  The Bank of England, which had gold but not silver, suddenly got rich, relatively.

Perhaps, the reason why the US and Germany foolishly abandoned silver was , like Napoleon said, bankers have no loyalty to their countries.

We've seen this movie before.  Substitute cryptocurrencies for gold, and gold for silver, and it's the same script.  More or less.  I suspect it will end the same way.