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It should be borne in mind that cryptocurrency alone cannot create material values. It is basically a means of payment and storage of value. Cryptocurrency creates significant convenience for people in the financial sector and this is why it is very valuable.
The practice of using cryptocurrency in Japan shows that it can have a positive effect on the state economy and an increase in gross income, but not very much.
Large business structures will not switch to the use of cryptocurrencies to avoid taxation. This is very risky for them and in any case they will lose more than they win.
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thats good . crypto didnt really differ on fiat if treated that way but still we should consider if what type of people are going to collect our taxes ( if they are corrupt or not ) but its better if they arent so that we can asure that our hard works and efforts and the taxes that we pay arent going to waste  . right now crypto on our place is now accetped or seem to be regulated but im still freely using my crypto without paying tax . i think local governments dont declare the law about this yet


Actually the adoption of bitcoin and blockchain can be utilized by the government as momentum to explore the potential of the country's acceptance of bitcoin and another cryptocurrency trading. Taxes that can be charged are:

-VAT
Exchanger companies cannot be classified as financial services when a company has a certain amount of most limit it must be confirmed as a Taxable Entrepreneur. The effect, every sale of cryptocurrency made by this taxable entrepreneur is subject to VAT.

- Income tax
Bitcoin ownership as an asset, from mining, purchasing or trading results has largely not been accompanied by an understanding of the principle of taxation of income. Education to users and exchangers is needed to provide information about the definition of income subject to tax so that it can meet its tax obligations in accordance with the principles of self-assessment. The capital gain that is obtained as a trader or Bitcoin contractor who treats it like a stock is a taxable income. From the point of view of intermediary companies, income derived from the difference between the spread of buying and selling exchange rates and services provided to users such as shipping, storage, and withdrawal of deposits represents income from business activities that are subject to income tax.

Looking at the upward trend in the exchange rate there is the potential for an increase in income tax from income from business activities if there is an increase in supervision over this sector. Because cryptocurrency transactions are currently the belle of the moment, momentum must be captured to increase the coffers of state revenues.
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it is very possible to harm the local government but if the local government does or revises the tax law through crypto for the company then it can be avoided, because crypto is no stranger to the government so it could be that even though using crypto is still subject to tax by the government
in my opinion all investments with crypto and government currencies and if properly regulated and not detrimental to one party and in my opinion the results of the good and bad of a system depends on the intentions and objectives of investors or holders of the crypto currency and maybe with the economic tax government and development will become more advanced and developed
The idea of regulation is not supported by me even a bit when it comes to bitcoin or altcoins. I don't consider it as a beneficial act for investors. Bitcoin does not need anyone for its survival and progress. This is certain. It is best for us, the common people, to keep governments away from taking control over bitcoin. Blockchain and bitcoin can really improve economy and country and individual level.
   Right bitcoin should stay in the hands of common people because if the government gets involved in it then it would take the control from the people on their own money, and I think its worst that the government will control our money, bitcoin is now free and everybody is happy about it, and bitcoin can really improve the economy and can eradicate the poverty.
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it is very possible to harm the local government but if the local government does or revises the tax law through crypto for the company then it can be avoided, because crypto is no stranger to the government so it could be that even though using crypto is still subject to tax by the government
in my opinion all investments with crypto and government currencies and if properly regulated and not detrimental to one party and in my opinion the results of the good and bad of a system depends on the intentions and objectives of investors or holders of the crypto currency and maybe with the economic tax government and development will become more advanced and developed
The idea of regulation is not supported by me even a bit when it comes to bitcoin or altcoins. I don't consider it as a beneficial act for investors. Bitcoin does not need anyone for its survival and progress. This is certain. It is best for us, the common people, to keep governments away from taking control over bitcoin. Blockchain and bitcoin can really improve economy and country and individual level.
its wrong dude,bitcoin could not survive without any help from its community or even government.standing alone will not make bitcoin developtmen improved,moreover there are much money invested here.and if it left alone ,i am worry we could not reach maximum result.i could be boosted when government contribute in blockchain and bitcoin developtment.all processes could finished faster.
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it is very possible to harm the local government but if the local government does or revises the tax law through crypto for the company then it can be avoided, because crypto is no stranger to the government so it could be that even though using crypto is still subject to tax by the government
in my opinion all investments with crypto and government currencies and if properly regulated and not detrimental to one party and in my opinion the results of the good and bad of a system depends on the intentions and objectives of investors or holders of the crypto currency and maybe with the economic tax government and development will become more advanced and developed
The idea of regulation is not supported by me even a bit when it comes to bitcoin or altcoins. I don't consider it as a beneficial act for investors. Bitcoin does not need anyone for its survival and progress. This is certain. It is best for us, the common people, to keep governments away from taking control over bitcoin. Blockchain and bitcoin can really improve economy and country and individual level.
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What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?

If this happen just in case, it is bad. because corporates and big businesses is going to avoid taxes and make money without getting touch by the government. they can't pay big amount of contribution to government and if government find out what's happening. we will be the one who affected on what they would do. because we benefit and if we lose it we will never be able to make a living or make money in crypto. because the government will do everything to eliminate such activities. so this idea is really hard to determine.
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There is no clear answer to this. There can be segments of the economy that may receive a boost. At the same time, there can be some sectors that can get negatively impacted. For example, several jobs can be created in the form of cryptocurrency exchanges and other crypto-related ventures. But there is a chance that the rising popularity of cryptocurrency may translate into lessened interest in the other sectors (such as stock market, real estate, banking, bullion exchanges and the bond market). In particular, the banking sector may get affected the most. Bitcoin allows common people to store their wealth themselves and this can be a big blow for the bankers.
Agree, we can not say clearly whether the application will bring benefits or negative to the economy because it depends so much on the management and scope of users and the government, first, generally it will be a boost when the profits in crypto are always very high but only for people with a reasonable investment. And as you said, the bank will become nervous at this moment when people only store crypto, no longer putting money in the bank, and in order to benefit the economy, the government needs a lot of planning, very confusing and not easy to judge the outcome for the act of applying crypto
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As long as cryptocurrencies are not officialy part of economy system, so without regulation and formal introduction into economy system, or governments are not collecting taxes from crypto related businesses they can't make any (recorded) impact on economy, bad or good. That is my opinion.
However, cryptocurrencies can influence individuals in terms of their financial situation and similar but that doesn't have any global impact.

Hard to say about that now as the mass adoption is something we can not see it really possible in the near future especially after the case of libra that got tortured by every institution, regulators around the world ... you can take that as an example of cryptocurrency mass adoption in a smaller scale.

This might be a pure speculation based on very limited source of data if you guessing what would happened... in an optimistic way the decentralized system provide a freedom of financial which bring awareness about how the current financial system in banks that been run unfairly, everythingwith cryptocurrency used widely making any transactions that used to cost very long time become easy fast and efficient.
In pessimistic way cryptocurrency could bring a chaos especially at the early stage of adoption due lack of regulation that can't protect non tech savvy users.
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What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?
If companies should start accepting crypto currency to avoid tax, that's going to cause a big problem between them and government. It's even going to make the government to hate cryptocurrency more and they are going to look for a way to terminate it and even make companies that are caught to answer big query for that and even pay fine a guess.

By the way there are already some companies that are accepting Cryptocurrencies (mainly Bitcoin), but some of them I know have taken it down, maybe because there isn't a lot of people that are making use of cryptocurrencies. And I don't think many people will be ready to be copying address and going to their wallet to paste and send and then also wait for verification, when they can just use their card or PayPal for quick payment.
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What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?

if the country has adopted the blockchain and bitcoin I think in the future the country will make a regulation. and on the regulation the government will regulate further about the use of cryptocurrency and will also regulate tax collection on crypto investments. most countries rely on their country's income from taxes. so even though companies already use cryptocurrency they will still be taxed.
It is to be expected once the adoption of bitcoin will happen. Collected taxes are funds used for the development of a certain country, it may increase the economy of a certain country but it is not something to change a life of the whole country. They might implement it right after their adoption and regulation will also come.

thats good . crypto didnt really differ on fiat if treated that way but still we should consider if what type of people are going to collect our taxes ( if they are corrupt or not ) but its better if they arent so that we can asure that our hard works and efforts and the taxes that we pay arent going to waste  . right now crypto on our place is now accetped or seem to be regulated but im still freely using my crypto without paying tax . i think local governments dont declare the law about this yet
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What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?

if the country has adopted the blockchain and bitcoin I think in the future the country will make a regulation. and on the regulation the government will regulate further about the use of cryptocurrency and will also regulate tax collection on crypto investments. most countries rely on their country's income from taxes. so even though companies already use cryptocurrency they will still be taxed.
It is to be expected once the adoption of bitcoin will happen. Collected taxes are funds used for the development of a certain country, it may increase the economy of a certain country but it is not something to change a life of the whole country. They might implement it right after their adoption and regulation will also come.
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There is no clear answer to this. There can be segments of the economy that may receive a boost. At the same time, there can be some sectors that can get negatively impacted. For example, several jobs can be created in the form of cryptocurrency exchanges and other crypto-related ventures. But there is a chance that the rising popularity of cryptocurrency may translate into lessened interest in the other sectors (such as stock market, real estate, banking, bullion exchanges and the bond market). In particular, the banking sector may get affected the most. Bitcoin allows common people to store their wealth themselves and this can be a big blow for the bankers.
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As long as cryptocurrencies are not officialy part of economy system, so without regulation and formal introduction into economy system, or governments are not collecting taxes from crypto related businesses they can't make any (recorded) impact on economy, bad or good. That is my opinion.
However, cryptocurrencies can influence individuals in terms of their financial situation and similar but that doesn't have any global impact.

If you recall 2016 and 2017, then cryptocurrency made a splash among cryptocurrency users, where many people got their financial independence, which they dreamed about for many years.  It was cryptocurrency that gave such opportunities due to its volatility.  But if you take into account the fact that cryptocurrencies can be used for bad purposes, for example, to avoid paying taxes, then you are really right, because in the absence of some control over the cryptocurrency market, the economies of the countries will not have any benefits, but only a negative impact.  But if the cryptocurrency is used legally, then non-cash payments using cryptocurrency will reach a new level, thanks to the speed of transactions and security.
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What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?

if the country has adopted the blockchain and bitcoin I think in the future the country will make a regulation. and on the regulation the government will regulate further about the use of cryptocurrency and will also regulate tax collection on crypto investments. most countries rely on their country's income from taxes. so even though companies already use cryptocurrency they will still be taxed.
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It is just a matter of implementing solid rules and regulations. You can’t really evade taxes because when companies would start doing that or it became rampant then expect that the government would not just sit idly. Also companies who are involved in cryptocurrencies in our country needed licenses of course and still need to comply with the governments requirements and pay taxes.
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As long as cryptocurrencies are not officialy part of economy system, so without regulation and formal introduction into economy system, or governments are not collecting taxes from crypto related businesses they can't make any (recorded) impact on economy, bad or good. That is my opinion.
However, cryptocurrencies can influence individuals in terms of their financial situation and similar but that doesn't have any global impact.


It will definitely have an impact if the people and the businessmen using cryptocurrencies will comprise a large percentage of the population already. If cryptocurrency transactions will remain untaxed, and these transactions involve considerable amounts of money, then economy will be affected for sure. What the government should have received as taxes from these transactions will not end where it should be. There is loss to the government.
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it is very possible to harm the local government but if the local government does or revises the tax law through crypto for the company then it can be avoided, because crypto is no stranger to the government so it could be that even though using crypto is still subject to tax by the government
in my opinion all investments with crypto and government currencies and if properly regulated and not detrimental to one party and in my opinion the results of the good and bad of a system depends on the intentions and objectives of investors or holders of the crypto currency and maybe with the economic tax government and development will become more advanced and developed
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What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?
First of all Bitcion isn't scalable enough to facilitate the global transactions. If all the corporates and businessman started using bitcoin as a mode of payment, then the network will get cluttered and tx will take eternity to get verified. This isn't the ideal situation.
But if people started using a decentralized cryptocurrency, then I don't see traditional economy working as efficiently. Taxes won't be the only problem. Unemployment, government spending, private investment and savings will all take a toll.
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There is actually a statement, specifically the IRS 2014-21 where all virtual currencies are subjected to tax still. Therefore, stating that buying using BTC or any other crypto, is in fact, still liable to tax. As for the specifics, I don't really know but the 2014-21 already states that existing tax principles apply to transactions using virtual currency. The taxable events are Cashing out, Paying using crypto, Exchanging one crypto to another or Receiving mined crypto. These are some I just looked up in google and you can search for more information if you want specifics.

I don't see how they going to tax what you have mined. The situation is controversial at best. They will tax you for the value of the crypto at the time? This is going to be a big mess. The USA IRS is very anal about paying tax. They like a bunch of thugs you pay protection money to.

How exactly will you pay tax on exchanging one crypto to another? If I trade you my football card collection or my comic book collection with yours I do not pay tax. I think the USA is trying to pull stuff out the arse and pull a fast one on the people since the paranoid (as usual) of losing control of losing money of losing the power of all sorts of things. I think the USA needs to go fight another war or something, go "liberate" another country or something.  Roll Eyes
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As long as cryptocurrencies are not officialy part of economy system, so without regulation and formal introduction into economy system, or governments are not collecting taxes from crypto related businesses they can't make any (recorded) impact on economy, bad or good. That is my opinion.
However, cryptocurrencies can influence individuals in terms of their financial situation and similar but that doesn't have any global impact.
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