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Topic: cryptofrka's Merit Source application - let's improve the gambling boards (Read 1319 times)

legendary
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Semi-annually bump I guess..

Gambling is the only part of the forum where activity is not dropping, people that post there really should have a dedicated merit source.
legendary
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I had to think about this and am still not sure, maybe there was just one case where a member has been made merit source after making an application in Meta. I cannot recall when it happened or the name of the member.

Now that cryptofrka has made his application there is nothing more to do except hope for good news soon.

The last case I recall is the NotATether application; after then, I haven't seen anyone come to the meta to announce his application has been approved. I am not sure which board he applied for, but he is more active on the gambling board lately and might be valuable to us until we have someone allocated to the gambling board.

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In the coming days I might apply for merit source too.
I asked you to apply two years ago, and now is the moment. If the two applications are successful, the spam on the gambling board will be reduced, and my banter will begin to receive the merit it deserves.  Smiley
legendary
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My stance for Cryptofrka's application hasn't changed. I genuinely believe that the gambling deserves at least one active merit source such as Cryptofrka. It's not just all bad in the gambling board. There's still some really good posts but those points don't garner as much merits as we'd expect.


Hopefully if cryptofrka gets approved and there is a Merit stream on the board it will prompt people to
post at a higher quality therefore I back cryptofrka's applicationFWIW

My premise is that no board is above/below having a merit source. By default, there should be merit sources for any and all board as long as the board generate some kind of traction and have sufficient amount of frequent posters.
legendary
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Gambling boards are both a horrible place and a great one at the same time - depending on which threads you read.
I'd like to tip the scale in favor of the great ones a bit.

You have my support as someone active in the gambling board, especially in boxing matches, some posts evoked great discussions and rich content but unfortunately failed to generate the merits that rightly deserve, the gambling board is one busy board because of the gambling quota imagine if there are 10 gambling campaign and they have to at least drop 5 to 10 posts in the board, so many posts of these posts will become redundant.
legendary
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I had to think about this and am still not sure, maybe there was just one case where a member has been made merit source after making an application in Meta. I cannot recall when it happened or the name of the member.

Now that cryptofrka has made his application there is nothing more to do except hope for good news soon.

In the coming days I might apply for merit source too.

I cannot recall the name of the member that made the comment but he stated it could take years for an application to be looked at.
Yep, you need some luck with these applications as theymos usually approves merit source applications in bulk and after monthly amount of merit shared drops down sigfnificantly, which hasn't happened yet so it might take some time. Unless he changes the way he readjusts the merit system.
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It seems disappointing at the length of time it takes for merit source applications to be dealt with. Your application process has been ongoing for several months but as of yet has not been addressed. I cannot recall the name of the member that made the comment but he stated it could take years for an application to be looked at.

I hope you have an answer soon.
Theymos might have other engagements and I believe if there is a pressing urgency for the merit source allocation, it would have been done by now. In my understanding, it follows some kind of pattern. If you study how theymos work, he doesn't rush, there are some that would have complained about what he should have done and will not take any action still, but suddenly you see it done. It might have been that the task has been scheduled and fixed at a stipulated time he has for it to be done. Those who applied close to that time would only think they are lucky enough to be attended to that fast, while those who had applied for a longer time would think he's so slow.

Going by this, I strongly believe that merit source allocation and adjustment can't be different and might happen in 2024 if he follows the pattern I read and heard. And those who had applied without any response should not be weary, it's possible he had noted it down but waiting for the right time to deliver it.

legendary
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I support this application, a second one I have seen recently and both users I know well from gambling sub.

There's certainly truth, from my anecdotal experience,  that merit is gained most outside gambling (and alts). While I believe I gain merits there now, the majority of my earlier gains, to make legendary anyway, were from Bitcoin-only sections.

I feel that is a good reflection of previous requirements for quality contributions to promoting and assisting, elevating Bitcoin use.

But as OP points out, gambling continues to be a major utility area for Bitcoin. Even beyond the use of it as a currency, gamblers using and transacting in Bitcoin lead to discussions about its technical aspects. Fee specifications, coin control, even signing of txs. I am certain it has become a perpetual gateway for new Bitcoin users.

OP knows gambling and the activities related, he would make a solid merit source in that board, in my opinion.


I agree with this synopsis.

I havent given the matter of Merit in relation to the Gambling board any thought before and there actually
isnt very much Merit awarded in the Gambling threads I frequent. I suppose its probably because its a very
busy board which inevitably means there is a lot of nonsense posted, I guess I subconsciously thought in general
the Gambling board was not worthy of merit.

Hopefully if cryptofrka gets approved and there is a Merit stream on the board it will prompt people to
post at a higher quality therefore I back cryptofrka's applicationFWIW
legendary
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And how many of those 150 posters are merit sources? I'd say if that's the case then we might even think about removing some sources since they will all be concentrated on gambling boards.
Even if that happens any many merit sources moved to gambling board (which I don't think will happen anyway), that still shoulnd't make cryptofrka's merit source application obsolete as opposite to them, he is a native gambling board poster which I think is something that theymos probably takes into consideration.


I cannot recall the name of the member that made the comment but he stated it could take years for an application to be looked at.
Yep, you need some luck with these applications as theymos usually approves merit source applications in bulk and after monthly amount of merit shared drops down sigfnificantly, which hasn't happened yet so it might take some time. Unless he changes the way he readjusts the merit system.
legendary
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It seems disappointing at the length of time it takes for merit source applications to be dealt with. Your application process has been ongoing for several months but as of yet has not been addressed. I cannot recall the name of the member that made the comment but he stated it could take years for an application to be looked at.

I hope you have an answer soon.
legendary
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And how many of those 150 posters are merit sources? I'd say if that's the case then we might even think about removing some sources since they will all be concentrated on gambling boards. If that happens then we might as well rebrand the forum and call it gamblingtalk forum. This should be a good indicator to identify true Bitcoin contributors and those only interested in earning money by any means necessary.

Yup, partially that's true. Then again, if only those that contributed to Bitcoin write here and use Bitcoin, it'd still be worth 5$.
You need people to use Bitcoin. A lot of people receive their first Bitcoin by being in sig campaigns.

They learn how to open wallets, send and receive BTC, they tell about it to others etc. You have a snowball effect which you otherwise would not have.

Hate gambling boards all you like, but crypto bookies and casinos have made a significant contribution to BTC being used more and more worldwide.
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about 150 members will appear without a campaign and the vast majority are quite active and at the same time write high-quality posts. It is to be expected that some gambling campaigns will restructure and make room for some quality posters. This must certainly result in greater interest in the gambling board.
And how many of those 150 posters are merit sources? I'd say if that's the case then we might even think about removing some sources since they will all be concentrated on gambling boards. If that happens then we might as well rebrand the forum and call it gamblingtalk forum. This should be a good indicator to identify true Bitcoin contributors and those only interested in earning money by any means necessary.
legendary
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A small bump, considering that advertising mixers will be banned soon, there might be even more interest in the gambling boards.

Let's make a small step towards the right direction there Smiley
Why would there be more interest in the gambling board if mixers are banned?

I think OP speculate there will be more signature campaign run by casino.

I think it points to another thing.
After January 1, about 150 members will appear without a campaign and the vast majority are quite active and at the same time write high-quality posts. It is to be expected that some gambling campaigns will restructure and make room for some quality posters. This must certainly result in greater interest in the gambling board.
legendary
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A small bump, considering that advertising mixers will be banned soon, there might be even more interest in the gambling boards.

Let's make a small step towards the right direction there Smiley
Why would there be more interest in the gambling board if mixers are banned?

I think OP speculate there will be more signature campaign run by casino.

There are only two reasons that I can deduce:
1. The casinos will be used as a new frontier for mixing, which (no matter innocent privacy intentions or not) would be considered as money laundering.

Irrelevant, mixers still exist and people can use it anytime they want. Besides, using platform which ask KYC to perform money laundering is nothing new.

2. As paid posters will now have to post in the gambling board to reach their quota's, which would mean that there would be an increase in posts where genuine posting isn't the motive, but rather to meet their quote.

I agree, but what matter most is quality of the post itself.
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A small bump, considering that advertising mixers will be banned soon, there might be even more interest in the gambling boards.

Let's make a small step towards the right direction there Smiley

I agree with you that once the mixers will get banned the attention of the users will be on gambling boards as most of the signature campaigns that are intended to promote their casino have a rule of having at least 5-10 posts in gambling board and to reach that quota users might make valuable posts there. I believe that someone like you should be a merit source of the gambling board and I truly hope that theymos may consider your merit source application and appoint you as a merit source of those boards.
legendary
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Tell me how there could possibly be a positive increase in gambling board posts as a result of the mixer ban?

I hope some old/new casinos/sportbooks take advantage and start advertising instead of mixers.
We might be seeing new competitions, paid pools, whatever.

There wasn't much interest in sponsoring anything other than football, considering football is taken care of for the season and there's a gap to fill, maybe we start seeing basketball, tennis, cricket competitions appearing.
We already saw SB having F1 pool that went really well.

It's a guess, but a decent one. But even if gambling lost 50% of traffic, it would still need a dedicated merit source.

These boards are where most interaction on the forum is happening, and it's not all bad. Far from it.

Do you want to meritsource for quality posts? Or do you want to meritsource gambling?
Do you want to become a temporary meritsource before mixers are banned or do you want to be a forever meritsourcer?

Quality posts in gambling boards, permanent merit source.
legendary
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A small bump, considering that advertising mixers will be banned soon, there might be even more interest in the gambling boards.

Let's make a small step towards the right direction there Smiley

Why would there be more interest in the gambling board if mixers are banned?

There are only two reasons that I can deduce:
1. The casinos will be used as a new frontier for mixing, which (no matter innocent privacy intentions or not) would be considered as money laundering.
2. As paid posters will now have to post in the gambling board to reach their quota's, which would mean that there would be an increase in posts where genuine posting isn't the motive, but rather to meet their quote.

Tell me how there could possibly be a positive increase in gambling board posts as a result of the mixer ban?
jr. member
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A small bump, considering that advertising mixers will be banned soon, there might be even more interest in the gambling boards.

Do you want to meritsource for quality posts? Or do you want to meritsource gambling?
Do you want to become a temporary meritsource before mixers are banned or do you want to be a forever meritsourcer?
legendary
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A small bump, considering that advertising mixers will be banned soon, there might be even more interest in the gambling boards.

Let's make a small step towards the right direction there Smiley
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