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legendary
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September 24, 2018, 05:38:54 PM
#9
Ermmm... but doesn't the sensible part of public as little as suspects that terrorism, paedophilia, illegal drugs are Big Brother's most lucrative business?
What kind of stupid "public" do you speak of?

May I ask you for a proof of paedophilia being a main source of income for the governments in general?
legendary
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September 23, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
#8
This is going to happen. Kind of. This is how it will go down, pay attention people...


As you have seen they have been cracking down on exchanges one after another in an attempt to create bottlenecks. They will implement all the same KYC and AML regulations in the exchanges and make them under the same controls as banks, and effectively and legally liable in fiat.

Eventually the focus will turn to the protocols themselves, and some coin teams will cooperate, and some won't. The ones that cooperate will be given full access to the banking system, including nice streams of fiat money to pump it up and incentivize people to go to them and leave the others. Note they don't need to really buy the coin to do this, this can be done with various manipulations such as messing with margin calls with short trading to simply holding fractional reserves of the exchange's purported full amount among other things.

Next they will start criminalizing protocols that don't essentially force KYC and AML regulation enforcement. There will be the "good" coins, and the terrorist, Iranian, hacker, Russian, money laundering, global warming, North Korean, drug dealer coins. They will tack on whatever labels they can, and people, ignorant of the systems as they are, will suck down the lies and ask for more.

Cryptocurrency has been disruptive, but it also fills many of the stated goals of the monetary elite and the internationalists. Primarily the desire to get rid of cash economies, and the desire to implement a digital world currency. Cryptocurrency is quite the conditioning mechanism for getting people comfortable with digital money, and building the next generation of rubes. The technology is capable of freeing humanity, but be ready for its subversion, because it always comes to one degree or another.

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September 21, 2018, 08:10:59 PM
#7
Two words false flag.  They can make anything illegal with this tactic and the larger populace will eat it up.  Each time the governments need to make a unpopular rule they just need to ram some planes into buildings (need to kill off those pesky Arabs) or kill some school children (to ban evil assault rifles).  The list goes on and on.  It's not the government you need to worry about.  They are mostly ineffective on their own.  Its the billion people who actually listen to their shit and OBEY.   Next time a major terrorist event happens really take the time to study it.  Don't listen to the news.  Do the research yourself.  You will be shocked.  

I figure there will be some pedophile ring (this is their go to tactic as they are mostly child molesters themselves - see pizza gate) that is using cryptography to hide their trafficking.  Then anyone who does not like the new rule and calls it out for what it is will be labeled a hater and someone who loves for children to be raped.  Once it goes over the news they will have their millions and millions of mouthpieces who think they are informed because they watch the BBC, foxnews, msnbc etc.  
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September 05, 2018, 04:14:23 PM
#6
war material...
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Some means of cryptology are classified as "war material"  Huh . In this specific case, the operations relating to these means of cryptology are only regulated by the war material regime, at the domestic and export level.

In France, cryptographic means are subject to specific regulations.

The use of a cryptology means is free. There is no action to be taken.

On the other hand, the supply, import, intra-Community transfer and export of a means of cryptography are subject, unless otherwise specified, to declaration or request for authorisation.

newbie
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September 05, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
#5
It would make no sense at all to ban cryptography since it already permeates a large section of modern applications, not limited to cryptocurrency, for example, you need cryptography to login to your account, blockchain is only a portion of it.
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September 05, 2018, 12:43:52 PM
#4
I started to think that they're crazy enough to really want to ban cryptography. (I like the "terrorist and criminal activities" excuse, you can use it for a lot of things)


So do they think if they make something illegal the terrorists are going to stop using it?  Roll Eyes. The irony is it's the overbearing state intrusion of ordinary citizens that forces the regular Joe to have to start thinking about things like encryption. If it wasn't for states such as the UK and US trying to spy on everyone the average person wouldn't even need to be doing this.

The protecting 'against terrorism or bad guys' shtick is usually the excuse they use. It'll be the same thing they try to go after bitcoin for.

B-b-b-b-ut terrorist and drug dealers use it!

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September 05, 2018, 09:26:18 AM
#3
Internet commerce, online banking and much more can't work without encryption.
Giving keys to spies would create HUGE moral hazard. Even for those spies who are only mildly criminal by now, not involved in anything gross.
It's like introducing IP whitelisting in a very corrupt country.
In Russia we have a requirement that the only kind of encryption allowed is one visible to FSB.
It is not enforced, obviously, and cannot be.

Is as simple as claiming that encryption has to be prohibited to prevent... terrorism, paedophilia, illegal drugs and all the sudden you have a perfect case to put the public opinion in favour of the big brother model of society.
Ermmm... but doesn't the sensible part of public as little as suspects that terrorism, paedophilia, illegal drugs are Big Brother's most lucrative business?
What kind of stupid "public" do you speak of?
legendary
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September 04, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
#2
Ridiculous , they have no idea that cryptography is around everyone who use digital device/surfing on internet. From HTTPS, SSL, PGP, password hashing and many more that i even don't realize.

Unfortunately, it is more serious than it looks. For the first time the government cannot look freely into the letters, the telegraph, tap the phones... It is scaring the sh*t out of them. Is as simple as claiming that encryption has to be prohibited to prevent... terrorism, paedophilia, illegal drugs and all the sudden you have a perfect case to put the public opinion in favour of the big brother model of society.
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September 03, 2018, 08:05:55 PM
#1
Last week I stumbled upon a blog with an article titled "cryptography could become illegal in the future". I did only read the introduction because I thought it was probably a click bait.

Today after reading "Spies still butthurt they can't get at encrypted comms data Five Eyes to tech: We have ways of making you comply"
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/31/five_eyes_2018_meeting_encryption_terrorist_content/

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Encryption is vital to the digital economy, a secure cyberspace and the protection of personal, commercial and government information. The five countries have no interest or intention to weaken encryption mechanisms. We recognise, however, that encryption, including end-to-end encryption, is also used in the conduct of terrorist and criminal activities

I started to think that they're crazy enough to really want to ban cryptography. (I like the "terrorist and criminal activities" excuse, you can use it for a lot of things)

I found that there is a regulation in my country about cryptography, looking to know how others countries consider the cryptography, to my surprise I found it's an industry regulated in a lot of countries, some even ban it...

In the name of the cybersecurity and using the fear, do you think cryptography could be an industry with regulations more strictly tightened

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