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Topic: CryptoNote | The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly - page 2. (Read 2657 times)

legendary
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And that had a GUI wallet?

-MarkM-


Did Bitcoin had a GUI wallet in early days?

Yes
legendary
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Stagnation is Death
And that had a GUI wallet?

-MarkM-


Did Bitcoin had a GUI wallet in early days?
legendary
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Sure, but thats because Bitcoin was a fork of, uh... waitasec... someone's got this, don't they...

-MarkM-

I got it, a fork of hashcash, but thats OK not everything can have the nicety of spawning out from nothing.

-kazuki49-

And that had a GUI wallet?

-MarkM-
sr. member
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Sure, but thats because Bitcoin was a fork of, uh... waitasec... someone's got this, don't they...

-MarkM-

I got it, a fork of hashcash, but thats OK not everything can have the nicety of spawning out from nothing.

-kazuki49-
legendary
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A cryptonote fork with a sustainable emission rate, GUI wallet, and optimized miners publicly available on launch would be the winning combination for a successful CN fork.

Bitcoin had none of this when it was launched, and it is a success.

Sure, but thats because Bitcoin was a fork of, uh... waitasec... someone's got this, don't they...

-MarkM-

Bit gold
legendary
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A cryptonote fork with a sustainable emission rate, GUI wallet, and optimized miners publicly available on launch would be the winning combination for a successful CN fork.

Bitcoin had none of this when it was launched, and it is a success.

Sure, but thats because Bitcoin was a fork of, uh... waitasec... someone's got this, don't they...

-MarkM-
sr. member
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A cryptonote fork with a sustainable emission rate, GUI wallet, and optimized miners publicly available on launch would be the winning combination for a successful CN fork.

Bitcoin had none of this when it was launched, and it is a success.
legendary
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That graph is wrong in at least one place. AEON is a fork of XMR.

That's like saying Litecoin isn't a fork of Bitcoin, it's a fork of Tenebrix  Undecided

I don't know the code history of Litecoin that well so I can't comment, but I'm saying that AEON is direct fork of Monero (i.e. it has Monero copyright notices, and features added by Monero, such as mnemonics), which in turn was a fork of Bytecoin, and the graph doesn't show that lineage properly. Notice how the graph does (correctly, I presume) show other coins which are second-generation forks from BCN, but the AEON link is incorrect.
hero member
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There is NO Freedom without Privacy
That graph is wrong in at least one place. AEON is a fork of XMR.

That's like saying Litecoin isn't a fork of Bitcoin, it's a fork of Tenebrix  Undecided

A cryptonote fork with a sustainable emission rate, GUI wallet, and optimized miners publicly available on launch would be the winning combination for a successful CN fork.
legendary
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That graph is wrong in at least one place. AEON is a fork of XMR.
sr. member
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A concern, I've read some "conspiracy theories" putting the NSA behind CryptoNote.  I haven't gotten to deep into that research, so I'd love to hear from people that have.

They said NSA was behind Bitcoin too, and they actually are in one way at least (SHA256), Monero doesnt use SHA256 and its elliptic curve is quite respected outside cryptocurrencies as well (used in TOR), BTC curve is not used anywhere else.
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Much of what I've seen in CryptoNote I really like.  I do have some questions.  I know that XMR has some public developers, do any of the other forks have known people working on them?  I'm specifically interested in XDN.  Most of the commits in GitHub are from ducknote and xdn-project and I don't know they are in real life.

A concern, I've read some "conspiracy theories" putting the NSA behind CryptoNote.  I haven't gotten to deep into that research, so I'd love to hear from people that have.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
The question as to whether Bytecoin was a premine fraudulently disguised as a ninjamine (the most likely scenario) or an actual ninjamine (the claim made by Bytecoin's supporters) is the main subject of the following thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8361633.

In either case we are talking of an 82% premine or even if we accept the Bytecoin supporters claim then it is an 82% ninjamine. The choice becomes really ugly + fraud (the most likely) or just really ugly.
sr. member
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You have to research the history (or lack thereof) of each yourself, but always follow the emission:



the most promissing CryptoNote (The Good): XMR, AEON, XDN, BBR. The plain clone (Ugly): DSH, and the scam that unironically started everything (Bad): BCN

edit: added links to the point
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Hello Everyone,

I am looking to get an interesting discussion going on what could be done better with new forks of the CryptoNote algorithm.

Below is a pic of all the forks that have come about from BCN. There are many, but I really don't want to focus the disucssion on just one coin.
I would like to get your thoughts on what makes each of these coins good and what does not.
What improvements could be made in these coins or if you could take all of the good out of each of these coins and make them into one, what would that be?
Anyway hope we can get a good discussion out of this as I am really interested in the CryptoNote community and future developments.

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