Topic: Cryptopyramide.com - Ponzi scheme - page 2. (Read 723 times)

the same thing could be said to you. people have been repeating that you are running a scam.

your "arguments" are BS. you keep comparing gambling and your Ponzi scheme project as if the two things are the same, they are not. at this point, you are just trying to twist words and meanings to justify your scam project.

What's the point of repeating the same thing I write before.

I've made enough arguments about my project, but you only hear yourself.

In the ponzi scheme, the last investor who invested their money will no longer receive the guaranteed profit that you promise. Accordingly, if they do not receive their profit and at the same time lose their money, so they will be defrauded by yourself. So fraud will still be present in this case.

Lotteries, casinos, sweepstakes also lead to loss of money in them just at the expense of new investors (players) is formed profit they also do not produce goods or services and serve to enrich a small part of investors (players).

Why is it not SCAM? Because the rules of the game are known and open!

You're not hearing me at all. Read wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud) -
(In law, fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right.)

If I informed investors in advance that (that early investors are making a profit at the expense of new investors) it is not considered fraud because there is no deception, false information, concealment of information.

The basis of any fraud is deception if there is no deception then there is no fraud.

Give me at least one example of fraud where there is no deception.

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There are and are developing a lot of complex high-tech projects using the technologies of smart contracts, sadchains, ring-sing and other schemes.
The rules in such projects are very often floating, adaptive, not fixed.

A full audit of such projects requires high-class IT specialists (highly paid), as well as a lot of time (one two three years).

If you conduct a comprehensive analysis of such projects (where the money comes from and how to be distributed in the future) (what goods, services are produced (created), what is their price, as well as distribution among all participants (investors) of the project.

You can find the same pyramid with different options for the distribution of funds or rights to future income.

To prove that such projects (SCAM) are very difficult and expensive. Because there are so many complex interdependent rules that you misunderstood or didn't know.


I made my site specially (intentionally) very simple (primitive) so that even a child could understand it, and the audit can be carried out in 2 minutes.

In my project, 99% of the funds are redistributed among investors(players).

What is the meaning of my project - in the possibility of making a profit and the risk of losing investments (rates). The choice is always people's (if they are aware of it).

I can spend a lot more time and money to create a project in which there will be a product or service in the future time, but why deceive myself and others, especially inexperienced investors (players).

Yes, you openly declare that your project is a scam, since it is a ponzi scheme, but it still does not become an honest project because of this. All ponzi schemes eventually lead to the loss of money of investors who joined this scheme last. Therefore, you should not get your hands dirty with a new scam.

You've just admitted that it's a Ponzi scheme and a pyramiding and these two schemes are meant to scam people because there is no product, no services to talk about only new investors willing to invest, it's the payment will go to early investors and for you to make a profit you need to have new investors coming in, once there are no new investors coming in, then the bucks stop, the only way to regain your investment s to invite and hope new people will come in to invest.

the dude is extremely delusional, he is hell-bent on believing that he isn't running a scam and that he is an honest "businessman".

your scam and the casinos, lottery, betting, are extremely different. it is unbelievable that you even thought of comparing these things.

I don't promise 100% ganted profits!

Where did you find this on the site? Show me.

If I write on my toilet (Ponzi pyramid) it will also be considered a scam?

I try to talk about the essence of things but everyone repeats like a SCAM mantra! SCAM!

No matter how much you try to sugarcoat it. A pyramid or Ponzi scheme is considered a scam here.

The difference between casinos and Ponzi schemes is  because of this



Casino don't promise guaranteed profits, so people already know that.

I read your link carefully.

It describes precisely the concealment of information about the rules of the game from investors, this is fraud.

My rules of the game are open, that is the difference between fraud and fair play.

People play lottery, bet on betting, play casino, why they all don't shout SCAM! SCAM!
after all, the money that the winners receive is taken from the victims.

Because the rules of the game are transparent and understandable to players.

People understand the responsibility that they can lose their money if they lose.

If you think that by talking openly about the ponzi scheme, you thereby become an honest businessman who openly declares everything that they will lose their money, then you are mistaken. Many people have previously tried to explain to you why the ponzi scheme is a fraud, but you still don't understand. In my opinion, a very good explanation is provided by the Binance Academy: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/pyramid-and-ponzi-schemes

It's not a profit guarantee (never mind 1 LTC or 100 BTC), it's a guarantee to follow the rules of the game which you can check for yourself and not rely on user feedbacks.

I don't want to copy the site to the reply page.

If you transferred 10 BTC and there are no new investors in 30 days you will get 9.9 BTC back.
(10 BTC - 1% = 9.9 BTC)

It is always the last investor who takes the biggest risk, he can lose everything, because his money will be used to pay to previous investors.

All this is in the rules on the site.

I read your previous posts. but you didn't answer my question.

How can you guarantee the 10% profit in 30 days?
What will you do if the money invested by new users isn't enough for paying the old users?

If I invest 10 BTC, I should be able to withdraw 11 BTC after 30 days. What if I am the only one who have deposited to your website? Where will the 1 BTC profit come from?

Look it up on wikipedia - fraud, deception, Ponzi scheme.

Truth cannot be deception by the definition of words.

Read my posts above.

I have read it.  
The website says that the profit comes from new investors. That's exactly the definition of a ponzi scheme.
I recommend you to search for "Ponzi Scheme" on google and see what you get. By definition, a ponzi scheme is a form of fraud. Even if you mention that on the website, it doesn't change anything and it's still a scam.

Please read what I have on my site carefully!
Perhaps there won't be any questions.

What will you do when the money deposited by new users isn't enough for paying existing users?

Even if you pay all the users for 600 days, it won't change anything.
All ponzi schemes are scam. They pay the users in the first days and finally run away with users money. There is no exception.

My website says (profits are generated by new investors) - what is the point of cheating people?

I understand that according to the classical Ponzi scheme a lot of fraudulent projects were created and investors of these projects suffered.

I understand the negative attitude of people to Ponzi schemes, but fraud is deception, withholding information or deliberately false information for investors (players).

Show me where I have false information on my site or what information I am hiding.

Perhaps we do not understand each other.



If the truth is a deception, then I just don't have any arguments
that you would accept.

My understanding is to wait 60 days and see if the truth is a scam, a fraud.

If I were a scammer, I would spread information about my site through social networks where there are not very knowledgeable about cryptocurrency.

I posted information on crypto-forums where people who are experienced in these matters.

Some crypto investors still deposit their money on such websites which is surprising to think. This website is telling their purpose in advance and even after seeing these, it will be said in advance that whoever will invest, he will lose his invested money. No one can profit from this Ponzi scheme website because the purpose of these websites is to scam greedy investors.

How can something like this works when all things are based on trust, since you will be at the head of the pyramid or two of your account you will make a profit then, checking the site I don't see information about how it works only the concept, obviously you made a lot of changes because you are caught, anything that has to do with pyramiding is considered a scam, only those who are on the top, of course, the admins will make money here first.