Cryptos success will probably lead to a global financial system reset - page 2.

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Quote from: race2tb on May 23, 2017, 08:57:36 PM

I've been gaming it out and I see no way for it to coexist as it is a direct adversary to the global central banking system we exist in. Crypto eventually causes a global run on the banks once we reach a tipping point where average people start demanding crypto over fiat. This triggers a derivatives explosion (1.3 quadrillion dollar market) the global financial system implodes and all fiat debts are erased. What is left is complete chaos all public services go unfunded, pensions evaporate, companies go under due to their fiat assets evaporating. A new order arises but who the fuck knows that that will look like, world war 3 style military actions begin.

I do see government intervention before it goes that far and it will be the draconian kind. They cannot coexist since crypto cannot be centrally controlled , regulated or tracked due to cross chain interactions which are undetectable. I only see one path for them and that is waging war on crypto public chains. Long jail time for hosting or participating, extradition and global cooperation since not cooperating might as well be a declaration of war.

This is still very-very far from happening. In developed countries traditional banking system is used by overwhelming amount of population - I don't know statistics, but lets say it's 95%. Cryptocurrencies on the other hand are barely used by even 0.5%. Most of the interest comes from investors and traders. Average users would need some good reason to drop banks that served them well for generations and adopt crypto instead, while government will be resisting it with all the possible means. And significant part of population actually believes that government is good and necessary, because without it civilization will fall. So crypto revolution is in my opinion only possible with political revolution that has a goal of reducing the influence of government in all fields.

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Quote from: race2tb on May 23, 2017, 08:57:36 PM

I've been gaming it out and I see no way for it to coexist as it is a direct adversary to the global central banking system we exist in. Crypto eventually causes a global run on the banks once we reach a tipping point where average people start demanding crypto over fiat. This triggers a derivatives explosion (1.3 quadrillion dollar market) the global financial system implodes and all fiat debts are erased. What is left is complete chaos all public services go unfunded, pensions evaporate, companies go under due to their fiat assets evaporating. A new order arises but who the fuck knows that that will look like, world war 3 style military actions begin.

I do see government intervention before it goes that far and it will be the draconian kind. They cannot coexist since crypto cannot be centrally controlled , regulated or tracked due to cross chain interactions which are undetectable. I only see one path for them and that is waging war on crypto public chains. Long jail time for hosting or participating, extradition and global cooperation since not cooperating might as well be a declaration of war.

The global central banking system will colapse ,but cryptos won`t be the main reason for this colapse.
All the fiat debts won`t be erased,they will be reduced.
Governments can`t control cryptocurrencies and they never will.

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Quote from: race2tb on May 23, 2017, 08:57:36 PM

I've been gaming it out and I see no way for it to coexist as it is a direct adversary to the global central banking system we exist in. Crypto eventually causes a global run on the banks once we reach a tipping point where average people start demanding crypto over fiat. This triggers a derivatives explosion (1.3 quadrillion dollar market) the global financial system implodes and all fiat debts are erased. What is left is complete chaos all public services go unfunded, pensions evaporate, companies go under due to their fiat assets evaporating. A new order arises but who the fuck knows that that will look like, world war 3 style military actions begin.

I do see government intervention before it goes that far and it will be the draconian kind. They cannot coexist since crypto cannot be centrally controlled , regulated or tracked due to cross chain interactions which are undetectable. I only see one path for them and that is waging war on crypto public chains. Long jail time for hosting or participating, extradition and global cooperation since not cooperating might as well be a declaration of war.

I believe that this reset that you are talking about is going to come soon.

Fiat currency is simply not a sustainable way of managing an economy. In fact if you look at the history of money one single fiat currency has never survived for more than 100-150 years. And I beileve that we are heading to there right now.

The problem with fiat is that the government can take out loans from the central bank, which is basically a part of the government. They do this to print new money but makes it sound legit and all. Bitcoin isn't based on debt, it's based on assets. That's what i think makes bitcoin special to be honest. I believe bitcoin t obe a great long term investment, something to hold if you want to save up for the future.

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Or maybe said governments are already mining and accumulating all the legit coins for years now with their unlimited or rather free of charge

Resources, I suspect China being in a war with US and Russia as well and 5 other major power countries competing to have the highest market

Share, seriously how could we know this isn't them power playing and politics as always? one thing we could be sure of is our profit, we can in fact

Take the most out of this race while they are injecting cash without thinking.

I'd like to request any traders if reading this after buying any coin don't sell for even x5 profit not until you could sell large amounts for x10-x15 profit.

Governments if were truly involved heavily then hash rates of every coin should've been much more than current hash rates.

Don't get fooled by seeing the total market shares and their charts, it's all either fake or just showing the price*supply=market capital.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on May 24, 2017, 12:43:32 AM

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Quote from: oegarod on May 23, 2017, 11:23:41 PM

Already bitcoin with the innovative technology has made a big change in the financial system. Now becoming more popular and valuable bitcoin will make lot change in the financial system further as banks too have committed to creating their own digital currency making it an commonly used currency and investment.

Bitcoins success is because of people who adopted it, big business when adopting will attract more people since they
can integrate bitcoin as their system, however as long as there is a government who made a law, the can manipulate everything
and will ensure that their fiat digital currency will be more valuable for people.

Lets not forget Bitcoin is still a discentralized currency and will not have any central government interference whatsoever even for countries
that have chosen to recognize its existence . Isn't it too early to declare Bitcoin to be successful considering support is not from a big community
inspite Big businesses endorsing the use of the blockchain technology

I think bitcoin right now should be considered a success. Its gotten the approval of japanese banks and that is a trend that will continue around the world as more and more people use bitcoins. Big business will only endorse the use of blockchain technology only if it benefits them, which relies on the user base of bitcoin to grow. As governments around the world approve of bitcoin usage, bitcoins will gain support from a large community.

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Quote from: Hatuferu on May 24, 2017, 12:21:07 AM

Quote from: oegarod on May 23, 2017, 11:23:41 PM

Already bitcoin with the innovative technology has made a big change in the financial system. Now becoming more popular and valuable bitcoin will make lot change in the financial system further as banks too have committed to creating their own digital currency making it an commonly used currency and investment.

Bitcoins success is because of people who adopted it, big business when adopting will attract more people since they
can integrate bitcoin as their system, however as long as there is a government who made a law, the can manipulate everything
and will ensure that their fiat digital currency will be more valuable for people.

Lets not forget Bitcoin is still a discentralized currency and will not have any central government interference whatsoever even for countries
that have chosen to recognize its existence . Isn't it too early to declare Bitcoin to be successful considering support is not from a big community
inspite Big businesses endorsing the use of the blockchain technology

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That will never happen since cryptocurrency will never replace fiat currency. The way cryptocurrency moves right now especially bitcoin complements with fiat currency and not go against it. It has become the representative of fiat currency on online transactions. The only way for cryptocurrency to take over is for countries to create their own version of digital currency to replace cash.

And another thing, if in case the draconians are real our cryptocurrencies are doomed since their technology is highly advanced compared to us. But those are just myths and conspiracy theories.

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Quote from: oegarod on May 23, 2017, 11:23:41 PM

Already bitcoin with the innovative technology has made a big change in the financial system. Now becoming more popular and valuable bitcoin will make lot change in the financial system further as banks too have committed to creating their own digital currency making it an commonly used currency and investment.

Bitcoins success is because of people who adopted it, big business when adopting will attract more people since they
can integrate bitcoin as their system, however as long as there is a government who made a law, the can manipulate everything
and will ensure that their fiat digital currency will be more valuable for people.

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Already bitcoin with the innovative technology has made a big change in the financial system. Now becoming more popular and valuable bitcoin will make lot change in the financial system further as banks too have committed to creating their own digital currency making it an commonly used currency and investment.

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Quote from: race2tb on May 23, 2017, 08:57:36 PM

I've been gaming it out and I see no way for it to coexist as it is a direct adversary to the global central banking system we exist in. Crypto eventually causes a global run on the banks once we reach a tipping point where average people start demanding crypto over fiat. This triggers a derivatives explosion (1.3 quadrillion dollar market) the global financial system implodes and all fiat debts are erased. What is left is complete chaos all public services go unfunded, pensions evaporate, companies go under due to their fiat assets evaporating. A new order arises but who the fuck knows that that will look like, world war 3 style military actions begin.

I do see government intervention before it goes that far and it will be the draconian kind. They cannot coexist since crypto cannot be centrally controlled , regulated or tracked due to cross chain interactions which are undetectable. I only see one path for them and that is waging war on crypto public chains. Long jail time for hosting or participating, extradition and global cooperation since not cooperating might as well be a declaration of war.

You're implying that they would ever let crypto get to a point where people would start to demand it over fiat.
It's all a game at this point anyways, the smoke and mirrors of "oh we have to deal with terrorism" now and the gradual replacement of native populations means that there's maybe 2-3 generations for this "reset" to happen before we get completely complicit and subservient populations that would not dare to seek out anything beyond the normal system.
It is doubtful to see something like this, at this point, caused by cryptos succeeding.

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Quote from: pooya87 on May 23, 2017, 10:48:18 PM

this success you are putting your whole topic on has not yet happened! not even in bitcoin.
for bitcoin you shouldn't look at the high price and how it has gone up fast. the adoption, although is big, it is not yet that big to even be considered in the real world when compared with other things.

for altcoins it is practically non existent. >95% of the altcoins are in fact shitcoins without any usefulness and are full of problems. the 5% remaining are too small and lack the adoption and still have a lot of problems. and on top of all that the whole altcoin market is in a big bubble and everyone knows that.

i also disagree with the second part about government intervention! they may do some stuff as prevention or slow down the adoption but they will all give in. you can see this clearly in Japan and even more clearly because of their change of heart in Russia.

There are also ties that banks are needed for cyrptocurrencies. For example if you gonna buy houses and you're gonna need a millions of amounts. Banks are needed to pay amount either by installment of in one buying, for me that would be the use of banks if crypto's are now recognize as currencies. Also if a government intervention occurs, economically they would tax it because obviously these are taxless but other countries already started it without tax so the issue on government is how can a government earn if there is no tax?

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this success you are putting your whole topic on has not yet happened! not even in bitcoin.
for bitcoin you shouldn't look at the high price and how it has gone up fast. the adoption, although is big, it is not yet that big to even be considered in the real world when compared with other things.

for altcoins it is practically non existent. >95% of the altcoins are in fact shitcoins without any usefulness and are full of problems. the 5% remaining are too small and lack the adoption and still have a lot of problems. and on top of all that the whole altcoin market is in a big bubble and everyone knows that.

i also disagree with the second part about government intervention! they may do some stuff as prevention or slow down the adoption but they will all give in. you can see this clearly in Japan and even more clearly because of their change of heart in Russia.

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I've been gaming it out and I see no way for it to coexist as it is a direct adversary to the global central banking system we exist in. Crypto eventually causes a global run on the banks once we reach a tipping point where average people start demanding crypto over fiat. This triggers a derivatives explosion (1.3 quadrillion dollar market) the global financial system implodes and all fiat debts are erased. What is left is complete chaos all public services go unfunded, pensions evaporate, companies go under due to their fiat assets evaporating. A new order arises but who the fuck knows that that will look like, world war 3 style military actions begin.

I do see government intervention before it goes that far and it will be the draconian kind. They cannot coexist since crypto cannot be centrally controlled , regulated or tracked due to cross chain interactions which are undetectable. I only see one path for them and that is waging war on crypto public chains. Long jail time for hosting or participating, extradition and global cooperation since not cooperating might as well be a declaration of war.

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