Topic: ➨➨ CryptoSplit.com Sig Campaign ➨ Full/Senior/Hero/Legendary ➨ Up to 0.10BTC/Week!! - page 2. (Read 3976 times)

The account was already tagged by BadBear. There was no chance anyone would've joined without escrow.
You saw an opportunity for income and took it and there is nothing wrong in it. Don't try to show that it was some kind of heroic act.

Thanks for your comment.
since few it is is sure that this site is scam.
But your comment tells me again that the escrow do nothing against it. But he was the closest to the scammer!

And please look at older posts on this thread. The escrow writes in his agreement about a possible scam. And few hours later as the scam was clear the escrow think about returning the funds back to the scammer.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11067853

The escrow means that this campaign was not efficient for CryptoSplit...


LOL The opposite is the case!
It was effective/useful for them!

This is the only reason why CryptoSplit has made this campaign and why he has used a escrow. To gain more funds...

But it seems that some people don't understand the tactic...

Despite whatever ethical arguments anyone has - the remaining escrowed funds should be given as per outlined by the original escrow agreement (usually the original owner of the funds). Not doing so (even while it might be viewed as justice for scammers) would be a violation of an agreement, meaning an escrow can't be trusted to do what they agree upon.


He is doing what looks to a fair resolution - the signature campaign has ended with the closure of the site and he's paying you for all the days you were present in the campaign. Just because you choose to advertise beyond that point doesn't mean you are owed anything. Secondly, unless he has a clear intention to keep the coins - I wouldn't assume he's try to avoid paying out - he's following what makes sense and is fair - your being paid for the term of the agreement which has been cut short.

Finally, once again it isn't simply just because OP is a scammer that you can claim a full payment. It is irrelevant - you are being paid for the services you rendered and the time course - which has been shortened and hence a shortened payment.

Honestly, you can keep trying all you like - I don't hear anyone else agreeing.

And know I can make sure that this site is SCAM
Because I've wait 2 days for my payment, and not even a penny come to my wallet.

You know what you talking?
Quickseller has offered me a prorated payment of 0.0085 BTC
I only put the comma on a new place. It is your view and a coincidence that this is the whole (remaining) pot.

And further.
Where is the common sense? Who has to offer it? I or the escrow?
Who fairly deserve the remaining escrowed funds in your opinion?
Surly not i. But hey, it is not fairly if someone try to pay others with robbed money. Especially if he know or find out that it was stolen...
And then he try to make deals to pay less of the stolen money!
Please think about your comment and think about who you try to protect with your comment.
Thanks.

Just do this.

Ahh okay, that's the reason why i get no respond. Thanks for your answer now....
Now i tell you, there is no better way to test the honesty and communication of you and your escrow service!
After finishing this i will give you a feedback related to your ignorance.



As next we talk about how professional you are...
You write in your escrow agreement only about the point what happened if the site has scammed. And you write only how you think to pay the participants.
Hey, is this point made by you? Or is it made by CryptoSplit?
It is a campaign from CryptoSplit or by you? And has he written the rules about the payment in the first post?

So now, where comes your rule about a pro rated payment from? And why you write this in your agreement? Whats the reason?
I can't see a respond from CryptoSplit about this!
I assume you made it for your own profit only! Or do you think CryptoSplit comes back to pay all players of his game (and he needs the remaining fund to do that)?

By the way, i haven't a chance to find out that you changed/edited your "escorow agreement" after the scam was clear!
Your post with the agreement is editable at any time!  I can't remember this point as i enrolled the campaign.
I can only trust you and believe your words. But why i should? (especially when i look at the way you sent trust rating to others)

So lets say for the case of a scam. You missed the point what you will do with the funds after a scam!
You haven't a answered about this point until today!
So what your plan? What will you do with the the rest of the money?

And why you try to pay less as in the campaign offered (without a word from the person who made the campaign)?
That's why i don't accept your offer!
It is uncompleted and your agreement talks only about one side of your deal with CryptoSplit.
There is not one word and not a single respond, from the person who made this campaign! And i have no evidence that you edited this after my enrollment!

And finally, it seems you missed to ask CryptoSplit for a way to communicate if something happened... (whatever, a ban of his account, a accident or scam...)
It is absolute unprofessional to watch now the account only and the amount of posts...

I should give you a second trust feedback to show the users how unprofessional you are!
And to show them that you support scam by your acting. And that you do this for your own profit!
Even when some people call you scam buster...
(They call you scam buster because of your trust feedbacks, mostly to new user accounts. But it seems that you are participate and take profit from real big scams. Right, or look i wrong at this?)



As next, please look at the amount of posts of the CrypoSplit account. You will find out, it is one post less as you recorded in a message before!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptosplit-503558

So see again now how "professional" you are...
By the way, CryptoSplit has deleted his giveaway thread. Your calculation according to my amount of posts (that you sent via PM) can't be true, because i wrote in this thread a hand full of posts...
And further, your calculation is not acceptable. Because your escrow agreement is editable at ay time. The creator of the campaign didn't respond to this. And all users have enrolled in a fixed payment...
But now, nearly one week later, there is no plausible reason why you offer a prorated payment. (Only for taking more as your own profit.)



And further:

Thanks Quickseller, i think your ignorance and lack of understanding will result in minimum one further trust feedback...

I have long stopped marking obvious ponzi's as ponzis because doing so has not been effective. Additionally marking obvious ponzis as a pony has diluted the effect of negative trust left by me which resulted in people ignoring the warnings that I had left.

I had noted in the escrow agreement that the site was a likely scam so anyone considering advertising for them would be able to determine if they wished to advertise for them accordingly

Na

That wasn't my question.

Why didnt you mark them as a ponzi as the many others you did.

It looks like you answered your own question over 24 hours ago:
Please stop trolling

Haha, classic greed - somehow users manage to convince themselves that they deserve the whole pot just because the campaign went bust.


Oh the irony, trying to claim the remaining escrowed funds for yourself when you don't actually fairly deserve them isn't the getting the 'maximum profit' for yourself? Please, at least have some common sense.

The point that he is saying is you mark every other Ponzi, Scammer ect. but you did not mark this one as a Ponzi knowing it was a ponzi again (how can you not when it was copied off of cryptobdouble) but yet you escrowed for it.

Again Puzzled about this
How about you give a clear answer to this instead of insisting what you did was Heavenly.

you know you can admit being wrong about things once in a while.
Its easy to see what I am saying.

who cares what he is saying about the other crap cant understand it.

but what I am asking is just plain weird no?

You sent me a PM to send .85 BTC to an address which you did not enroll with, which I am obviously not going to do and as a result your PM was ignored. I will take the above post as a rejection of my offer to be able to remove your signature early for a partial payment in order to you be able to avoid continuing to advertise for a site that has scammed. Your posts will be evaluated based on the escrow agreement at the end of the payment period.

Your other concerns have been addressed above in this thread or are not relevant.

first off all, "Quickseller" has not respond to my PM !!!


So Quickseller, you are not very quick (like the Username promise)!



At second, i don't accept a prorated payment, because i joined this (scam) signature campaign for a fixed payment! And it was clear for you that this turn into a scam (in the middle of the payment period). (Also it was clear for me, but this counts not now.)
But thanks for the fair "Option" ! to remove the signature in such a case!!

I believe Mr. Quickseller try to get the maximum profit for himself, by paying less to the others...


Somehow i think CryptoSplit will never use his account again... Why he should, he got a lot more as he give for this campaign.


It is totally stupid to look at the amount of posts. The last log-in tells much more. But Quickseller reports us the posts! i think he is a specialist, he knows a lot about accounts on bitcointalk. So why counting the posts only?



So finally, if Mr. Quickseller is a honest guy then he would try to give the remaining funds to people who get robbed by this site.
It is also not correct to pay participants with stolen money! Even as an escrow.

This signature campaign was a trick only to get more trust from people and get more investors and bigger investments on CryptoSplit site.
The best would be, Quickseller contact the police or justice (without my notice to do that). Them he can report that the hold a small part of stolen money, that he get from a scammer, to be a part of a trick.
But Quickseller think he scam the scammer somehow...  (therefore his talking seems to be like an pretext)


Now we see, Quickseller is not fair and not honest.
Simply look at the trust ratings he give to newbies. Many of them never talked with him. But he give negative feedback because of the things he read on threads.
Many many feedbacks about loan requests... And by the way, the lending section is the other hand of the gambling section... if someone lose his money due to gambling then he maybe try to get a loan to gamble again....
But why are now so many accounts "marked" by Quickseller? Maybe it is a choice for him to buy cheap more and new accounts. Or it is only a thing of his ego?

Quickseller, i believe you are not a good escrow! Not competent, not safe and absolute not professional!
You are not fair and not honest!
And here you ask for Tips and trust feedback:

it is a impertinence! Why should i give tips? For what?
And hey, what kind of feedback do you wish? Should i give you every day a trust rating about things i read from you on different threads?



And further:

You helping, because you do nothing against him!
Look at your feedbacks that you sent to other people! Here a small copy:

How should i understand this? Do you mean by this, i can wear the signature and support this scam for the rest of the week and than you look how many posts i have made?
In other words, you don't stop supporting this shit strictly, even after the scam is clear. Or did i understand your words wrong??
Somehow it seems that you do the opposite of all the things that i read in your trust rating for other people...


Thanks for reading,
CoinFriend

"There are three paragraphs in the escrow agreement saying that I do not endorse the site and specifically saying that I believe them to be a scam. "  so believing they are a scam you still decided to escrow for them?  That doesn't put a lot of trust in your escrow service than.


Edit:

I say this part "While there are allegations that CryptoSplit is a ponzi/hyip/scam, the purpose of offering escrow services is intended to prevent signature campaign participants from getting scammed and should in no way be construed as an endorsement of the site." makes sense now why you escrowed for them.

There are three paragraphs in the escrow agreement saying that I do not endorse the site and specifically saying that I believe them to be a scam.

Not going to argue man but look at your trust its green right?

well you presenting yourself as an escrow gave a little trust to alot of people who put their bitcoin in the site.
can you agree?

I am not per say saying you helped out the campaign for scamming, more so the site itself you acting as escrow with your green trust might of gave more trust to the site for people to invest.

That is all.

Funny how I am trying to help you and actually gaining some respect for you but when I saw this it made me confused.


so take it as you will but if I was a newbie and saw you acting as escrow it would look legit even though the site looked like cryptodouble.com

Well, he is an escrow. He is in no way helping the scammers. He is acting as an escrow to make sure the participants get paid.
And he is acting as per what is professionally right.

How was I helping them? Their signatures were up a total of ~24 hours. I have over 1 btc of their money. I prevented their advertisers from getting scammed as they were obviously not going to receive payment if I had not escrowed. They were already tagged as badbear as being an alt of moreia so anyone considering "investing" is just an idiot.