I have sent you a DM about how to get out of your blacklist,but still no answer.
I'm not a spammer and I want to follow all the rules of every sig campaign I join.
Topic: Cryptotalk campaign thread is a mirror echo of the yobit thread... (Read 653 times)
December 06, 2019, 04:13:03 PM
I have sent you a DM about how to get out of your blacklist,but still no answer.
I'm not a spammer and I want to follow all the rules of every sig campaign I join.
December 06, 2019, 10:38:57 AM
The whole reason the threads linked were closed is because of lack of payment, and no actual guarantee of payment in a rational/steady schedule. This creates massive problems, and a whole pile of spam over something that should not be an issue.
No response so far. Participants are free to leave if they fear not being paid. I wish I could guarantee the payments but I have 0 control over it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200 Here is the list of banned participants. 472 and counting. Quite a few of these users will be on the blacklist as well.
I have sent you a DM about how to get out of your blacklist,but still no answer.
I'm not a spammer and I want to follow all the rules of every sig campaign I join.
December 06, 2019, 09:27:35 AM
Many are now transferring to a new campaign because they cannot transfer their earnings to their balance, so it means we will have lesser participants when they finally refill the wallet, its a test of patience now, it will take several weeks or even months before they refill it or they will not, the choice now is on the participants.
This is not the only reason many of users are now leaving Cryptotalk campaign. They reduced the maximum daily posts to 5. The maximum weekly income for a Senior member is now 0.0042. There are some other campaigns that pay more than this. Users no longer risk as there are better alternatives. 
December 06, 2019, 07:39:24 AM
The whole reason the threads linked were closed is because of lack of payment, and no actual guarantee of payment in a rational/steady schedule. This creates massive problems, and a whole pile of spam over something that should not be an issue.
No response so far. Participants are free to leave if they fear not being paid. I wish I could guarantee the payments but I have 0 control over it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200 Here is the list of banned participants. 472 and counting. Quite a few of these users will be on the blacklist as well.
I have sent you a DM about how to get out of your blacklist,but still no answer.
I'm not a spammer and I want to follow all the rules of every sig campaign I join.
legendary
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December 06, 2019, 06:30:16 AM
I have a simple question to ask from the crytotalk forum and yobit admins that what is the purpose of not refilling the wallets and also not stating the reasons ? I do not know it the wallets be refilled or not but think in the yobit prospective, It will only damage the yobit reputation, nothing more.
For those who have been on the forum for several years, YoBit has lost all its reputation a long time ago due to hundreds of scam reports. I doubt that this situation could compromise a reputation that was not there anyway. The model they chose is proven to be unsustainable for a long time, and all they had to do was limit the number of users to some reasonable number which with a maximum number of posts per week would be enough to keep the campaign running normally.
Personally, I would approach this situation to select the best members (max 50), set 50 posts max per week and send this proposal to YoBit. Although I sincerely doubt that they have any intention of doing things the way other campaigns do.
99% in agreeance.
The 1% disagreeance would be the myriads of people saying yobit scammed them, when they themselves fell for a telegram/yobicode/deposit scam separate from the "official" yobit; or deposited something like ETC into an ETH account or some smart contract token into an ETH address... which they have never really ever done anything about historically.
Theres lots of record of this in the old ~300 page yobit thread i linked earlier.... Stories like poor chaps depositing 20 ETH into an ETC address... etc... I feel for em.
December 06, 2019, 06:24:06 AM
I have a simple question to ask from the crytotalk forum and yobit admins that what is the purpose of not refilling the wallets and also not stating the reasons ? I do not know it the wallets be refilled or not but think in the yobit prospective, It will only damage the yobit reputation, nothing more.
For those who have been on the forum for several years, YoBit has lost all its reputation a long time ago due to hundreds of scam reports. I doubt that this situation could compromise a reputation that was not there anyway. The model they chose is proven to be unsustainable for a long time, and all they had to do was limit the number of users to some reasonable number which with a maximum number of posts per week would be enough to keep the campaign running normally.
Personally, I would approach this situation to select the best members (max 50), set 50 posts max per week and send this proposal to YoBit. Although I sincerely doubt that they have any intention of doing things the way other campaigns do.
legendary
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December 06, 2019, 02:41:16 AM
The whole reason the threads linked were closed is because of lack of payment, and no actual guarantee of payment in a rational/steady schedule. This creates massive problems, and a whole pile of spam over something that should not be an issue.
No response so far. Participants are free to leave if they fear not being paid. I wish I could guarantee the payments but I have 0 control over it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200 Here is the list of banned participants. 472 and counting. Quite a few of these users will be on the blacklist as well.
I feel for ya man.... and everyone else as well.... Yobit is very good at ignoring requests for a response. You have definitely done a very good job thus far at keeping the participants in line. I only created this thread here, mainly because from my understanding, its a serious topic that relates to the forum and in a place where the words on the table stay on the table.
Im glad others chimed in about the similar experience with the old sig campaign. Its just too much like Deja Vu.
December 05, 2019, 10:15:20 PM
my prediction is it may be a short delay until the payout wallet is filled (1 month or so total)... but it will happen again.
And the delay will increase.... maybe not the first time, but once the delay increases for the first time, it is almost certain to get longer thereafter.
This is just a prediction.
And the delay will increase.... maybe not the first time, but once the delay increases for the first time, it is almost certain to get longer thereafter.
This is just a prediction.
The problem here is they accept a lot of participants even though they know their balances are limited so they fail to pay them all out just in time for their balances to be refilled. If they only find a way to have a sustainable number of participants and not actually make their campaign open for all then I'm sure that this kinds of problem won't happen again. I know Yobit/Cryptotalk wants to boost their presence here in the forum that's why they want to have a lot of participants as much as possible but they should also consider that they are ruining their reputation every time that there are hiccups like this on how they handle things.
December 05, 2019, 02:14:30 PM
my prediction is it may be a short delay until the payout wallet is filled (1 month or so total)... but it will happen again.
And the delay will increase.... maybe not the first time, but once the delay increases for the first time, it is almost certain to get longer thereafter.
This is just a prediction.
And the delay will increase.... maybe not the first time, but once the delay increases for the first time, it is almost certain to get longer thereafter.
This is just a prediction.
The problem here is they accept a lot of participants even though they know their balances are limited so they fail to pay them all out just in time for their balances to be refilled. If they only find a way to have a sustainable number of participants and not actually make their campaign open for all then I'm sure that this kinds of problem won't happen again. I know Yobit/Cryptotalk wants to boost their presence here in the forum that's why they want to have a lot of participants as much as possible but they should also consider that they are ruining their reputation every time that there are hiccups like this on how they handle things.
December 05, 2019, 01:37:21 PM
Is this a list of all users who are wearing Cryptotalk signature? I guess many of them are already banned but still not removed the signature.
I excluded everyone who was in yahoo's ban list at the time.
December 05, 2019, 12:47:55 PM
I have a simple question to ask from the crytotalk forum and yobit admins that what is the purpose of not refilling the wallets and also not stating the reasons ? I do not know it the wallets be refilled or not but think in the yobit prospective, It will only damage the yobit reputation, nothing more.
You stop the wallet withdrawals, people start complaining, yobit and crytotalk fourm name is badly spoken and then suddenly they topup wallets , that will not restore their reputation. It seems that they have stopped the campaign and now getting free advertisements for as long as they can continue this.
You stop the wallet withdrawals, people start complaining, yobit and crytotalk fourm name is badly spoken and then suddenly they topup wallets , that will not restore their reputation. It seems that they have stopped the campaign and now getting free advertisements for as long as they can continue this.
December 05, 2019, 10:36:47 AM
You locked them an excellent place for pumping post number, few hours after that, is created new "Unofficial" topic [Unofficial] CryptoTalk.Org & Yobit Panel BTCtalk Signature Campaign Discussion it is the inexhaustible theme for meaningless discussion.
We all know why that thread has been so popular too. Many of the users that have joined the signature campaign aren't that knowledgeable in cryptocurrencies so they tend to talk about what they know, and talking about the signature campaign which is paying them is what they all have in common. A lot of users in that thread have a signature from Cryptotalk. It is just a way of carrying on discussion on something hugely subjective while also getting paid for it. Of course, there are legitimate discussions within the thread, but there's also a lot of regurgitated rubbish too. 
December 05, 2019, 10:22:22 AM
600 participants?! Holy crap, I didn't realize there were that many but then again I never checked--and I'm not sure even where to check.
suchmoon is posting their statistics from time to time, and last time the total number of participants was 582 - 21 November. As can be seen, their numbers are constantly increasing, albeit at a much slower rate than before. yahoo62278 is also banned many of them, at first glance it's probably a few hundred banned.
Is this a list of all users who are wearing Cryptotalk signature? I guess many of them are already banned but still not removed the signature.
The thread was actually locked by me to control the spam being posted in it by participants.
You locked them an excellent place for pumping post number, few hours after that, is created new "Unofficial" topic [Unofficial] CryptoTalk.Org & Yobit Panel BTCtalk Signature Campaign Discussion it is the inexhaustible theme for meaningless discussion.
December 05, 2019, 10:01:05 AM
There are so many totally different things between Yobit campaign and Cryptotalk campaign. I don't understand why you said they are the same.
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The third one is many accounts listed in banned (in that campaign only), maybe hundreds, by yahoo. It is another good thing because it reduced spam massively.
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I can not say I don't see any difference, honestly.
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The third one is many accounts listed in banned (in that campaign only), maybe hundreds, by yahoo. It is another good thing because it reduced spam massively.
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I can not say I don't see any difference, honestly.
Common, the only real difference is this time they hired a person who can and is banning the spammers, and if they didn't they would probably have already closed shop with 5000 extra posts to pay every day. The other differences are like saying that although it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck and carries a duck id card it's not a duck because you saw a goose yesterday.
Ooooh, I would love this. For a long time I've been dying to know who runs Yobit and what their offices look like, if they even have offices. I've always had an image of a couple of unkempt Russians with about three laptops running the exchange.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the other way around and they have a nice office with a beautiful view on Lubyanka Square.
After what happened to wex, you never know.
Here is the list of banned participants. 472 and counting. Quite a few of these users will be on the blacklist as well.
This is starting to look like a honeypot operation.
December 05, 2019, 09:50:20 AM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200 Here is the list of banned participants. 472 and counting. Quite a few of these users will be on the blacklist as well.
Great job on keeping that up to date in the public eye as well. Hopefully, other managers are updating their own personal blacklists by checking each, and every account on that list. I've been against the "standard" blacklists in the past because a lot of it is subjective, but if each manager can maintain their own blacklist, and review others without blindly just adding usernames to their own lists I think we'll see a general improvement in signature campaigns in the long term. December 05, 2019, 09:30:56 AM
The whole reason the threads linked were closed is because of lack of payment, and no actual guarantee of payment in a rational/steady schedule. This creates massive problems, and a whole pile of spam over something that should not be an issue.
No response so far. Participants are free to leave if they fear not being paid. I wish I could guarantee the payments but I have 0 control over it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200 Here is the list of banned participants. 472 and counting. Quite a few of these users will be on the blacklist as well.
December 05, 2019, 09:19:59 AM
There a select few of users in that campaign which post quality content, but the majority seem to be willing to sell their souls for a little bit of cash. You've got users advertising their service, but at the same time calling it a scam. There was heavy debate about this in the initial days of the signature campaign. However, their advertisement model might not be sustainable in the future, but in the short term their advertisement has definitely worked. Most of this forum now know of their 'service' due to the massive amount of hype, and controversy their platform caused.
As for the participants that have raked in the cash on this, I think most managers have likely noted down their usernames, and will not have them in their campaigns in the future. The amount of accounts that woke up suddenly could probably be investigated for alternate accounts if they try, and apply for the same signature campaign in the future.
Having said that it definitely isn't on the scale of spam that it was before, and they did make a step in the right direction by contacting Yahoo, and props to Yahoo for accepting a risky job if they've previously been known not to payout in the past. Although, I didn't keep up with the campaign in that much detail to confirm that.
As for the participants that have raked in the cash on this, I think most managers have likely noted down their usernames, and will not have them in their campaigns in the future. The amount of accounts that woke up suddenly could probably be investigated for alternate accounts if they try, and apply for the same signature campaign in the future.
Having said that it definitely isn't on the scale of spam that it was before, and they did make a step in the right direction by contacting Yahoo, and props to Yahoo for accepting a risky job if they've previously been known not to payout in the past. Although, I didn't keep up with the campaign in that much detail to confirm that.
December 05, 2019, 08:13:25 AM
600 participants?! Holy crap, I didn't realize there were that many but then again I never checked--and I'm not sure even where to check.
suchmoon is posting their statistics from time to time, and last time the total number of participants was 582 - 21 November. As can be seen, their numbers are constantly increasing, albeit at a much slower rate than before. yahoo62278 is also banned many of them, at first glance it's probably a few hundred banned.
December 05, 2019, 07:02:44 AM
I think he meant 30 pages not 300 and was linking to this thread :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-signature-campaign-5188047
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-signature-campaign-5188047
That is the CryptoTalk thread that fell apart... 30 pages... And Cryptotalk == Yobit
This link is the Yobit thread from before. Start at the end and just go backwards.... you'll see it.
Got it, its just they repromoted themself under different name. I am too surprised this one didn't blast up that long.
December 05, 2019, 07:01:34 AM
What is now happening is actually identical situation (at least as regards the payment), and they seem to have the same exit strategy. Wallet will probably be refilled from time to time, but not to the extent that it satisfies all existing users (last time I checked there were almost 600 active participants), and some of them will just remove signature.
600 participants?! Holy crap, I didn't realize there were that many but then again I never checked--and I'm not sure even where to check.But like you, I remember how the old Yobit campaign was and I do remember they had "problems" filling up their wallet to pay their campaign participants, but unlike what others have written I don't recall Yobit going months without doing it. But I wasn't in it when they finally shut it down, so that could have been toward the end of the campaign. Either way, Yobit is being irresponsible right now and that's a pattern for them, not only in paying the members in their campaign but not addressing their customers' issues and in general offering ludicrously horrible customer service.
my prediction is it may be a short delay until the payout wallet is filled (1 month or so total)... but it will happen again.
One month is ridiculous when they've promised to pay everyone within hours of posting. That's always been their terms. They expect everyone else to abide by their rules, and yet they don't hold themselves to their own standards. Nice, eh?Edit:
suchmoon is posting their statistics from time to time, and last time the total number of participants was 582 - 21 November.
Ah, thank you. That's the thread I remember seeing. Jump to: