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Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

Checking their...top contributor..

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The guy(girl), heck maybe it's the whole family is averaging 100 posts per day, that's almost what I've done in 3 weeks here Shocked

As for the quality..or the lack of it..enjoy:

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He is the founder of that foum, there are many stop there and admin is theymos. THere are legendary staff and moderators who maintain the forum. There are also DT1 and DT2 who put users account at negative trust!

It makes me wonder how many tags he has on his account here. Grin

Please be careful while browsing that forum, the risks of brain cancer after more than 5 minutes of exposure to that much knowledge are quite high

Yeah there's quite the shitload of spam there, I checked a couple of days back and most of the top 10 people are just spammers who will do a minimum of 100 posts a day, with them all being 1-liners that add no substance to the forum. It's definitely a tactic to gain some traction/activity on their forum.

As I've said clearly when advertisers look at the forum, they'll probably see a pretty lively one with a lot of new traffic, and there's a 50/50 chance they don't care or check the quality of posts. I think that's what they are going for with the campaign there.

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Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 02:12:11 PM

You mean they stop paying everyone to solve immediately? What about the few good posters there ?

Good posters will want to post for the sake of posting, without the incentive of being paid a few cents for a post. If they stop paying and only a few good posters remain, the quality of posts will go through the roof (let's face it, the quality can hardly get any worse). If they stop paying and no one remains, then nothing of value will have been lost, and all the spammers will just return to bounty hunting for useless tokens.

Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 02:12:11 PM

Unless it is not declared clearly, we can assume it in both directions.

Whatever you want to tell yourself to justify promoting a shady exchange. You can go through this thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200) and see all the posts where people talk about the official YoBit account and YoBit management, including the user in charge of handing out bans. There is never any mention of Cryptotalk management. Or you can have a look on twitter, where people with issues with Cryptotalk are being advised to contact YoBit support, such as here: https://twitter.com/buihuye48749862/status/1181090503187554305.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 07, 2019, 01:36:51 PM

So stop paying the spammers. Problem solved immediately. They won't do that though.

You mean they stop paying everyone to solve immediately? What about the few good posters there ?
They have already started banning the accounts which are producing pure spam and they may further increase the mods too.
(I hope things gets better)

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 07, 2019, 01:36:51 PM

Eh? The very signature you are wearing is coordinated and paid for via the YoBit website: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/. Or have a look at the announcement thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-signature-campaign-5188047. They are categorically one and the same.

Again crytotalk is using the Yobit panel and that's what written in the link you mentioned.
Maybe cryptotalk decided to use the yobit panel to automate the registration/payment method which Yobit has already developed.
Unless it is not declared clearly, we can assume it in both directions.

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Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 01:18:59 PM

Although they started off with some offers which may promote spam but with the passage of time , they may change the rules and bring more moderation.

Paying for 210 posts a week and having a "most posts wins" competition are not a case of "may" promote spam. They are designed specifically with spammers in mind. YoBit has always been about sheer quantity over any semblance of quality, as their previously banned campaign, and now this new campaign and their new forum, proves.

Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 01:18:59 PM

But on the other hand they also had to increase their site traffic too and maybe they could not thought of a better way to start with.

Perhaps writing useful information, or starting meaningful discussions? No serious user is going to use a forum which is 90% shit posts and 10% plagiarism.

Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 01:18:59 PM

Mods realize this and they are making efforts to clean the spam.

So stop paying the spammers. Problem solved immediately. They won't do that though.

Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 01:18:59 PM

Consider in this bitcointalk we are still fighting the spam.

We are fighting spammers who are trying to use this forum to earn via trash altcoin campaigns. We are certainly not actively encouraging spam by paying the spammers.

Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 01:18:59 PM

I have not seen any evidence or announcement that Yobit is associated with cryptotalk.

Eh? The very signature you are wearing is coordinated and paid for via the YoBit website: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/. Or have a look at the announcement thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-signature-campaign-5188047. They are categorically one and the same.

YoBit is a shady exchange, and Cryptotalk is a spammers haven. I wouldn't want to be caught advertising either.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 07, 2019, 10:26:00 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 07:45:13 AM

Honestly, the culprit is the 1 Bitcoin prize if they are only paying 30 post daily people will just stop after the 30 posts

Right, because 30 posts a day every day is absolutely fine, and definitely not spamming. Roll Eyes

Quote from: trumpman on October 07, 2019, 08:27:25 AM

Its like owning a billboard on the road and someone with a super shitty product paying me to place an ad.

It's not like some anonymous billboard at all, because you are attaching it to your name, all your posts, your online persona, your reputation. You, and everybody else wearing a signature ad (myself included), are essentially vouching for what they are advertising. You are staking your reputation on it, which is why the campaigns which pay the most attract the users with some of the best reputations.

Do you really want to sully your name by associating it with a scammy exchange and a forum full of spammers and plagiarizers?

I think this is not a fair observation for the participants who are advertising the cryptotalk.org signature.
No one is perfect from the beginning and this site campaign is only 11 days old. Although they started off with some offers which may promote spam but with the passage of time , they may change the rules and bring more moderation. But on the other hand they also had to increase their site traffic too and maybe they could not thought of a better way to start with.

Here is the alexa rating of their site which is few days old.

Maybe they didn't expected people to spam as much as they are doing it now at cryptotalk. Mods realize this and they are making efforts to clean the spam.Although it will take time considering again its only 10 days old. Consider in this bitcointalk we are still fighting the spam.

Here is another snip which shows mods determination to make it a better forum.

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Do you really want to sully your name by associating it with a scammy exchange and a forum full of spammers and plagiarizers?

I have not seen any evidence or announcement that Yobit is associated with cryptotalk.

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Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 07:45:13 AM

Honestly, the culprit is the 1 Bitcoin prize if they are only paying 30 post daily people will just stop after the 30 posts

Right, because 30 posts a day every day is absolutely fine, and definitely not spamming. Roll Eyes

Quote from: trumpman on October 07, 2019, 08:27:25 AM

Its like owning a billboard on the road and someone with a super shitty product paying me to place an ad.

It's not like some anonymous billboard at all, because you are attaching it to your name, all your posts, your online persona, your reputation. You, and everybody else wearing a signature ad (myself included), are essentially vouching for what they are advertising. You are staking your reputation on it, which is why the campaigns which pay the most attract the users with some of the best reputations.

Do you really want to sully your name by associating it with a scammy exchange and a forum full of spammers and plagiarizers?

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Quote from: dunfida on October 07, 2019, 07:21:15 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 07:12:17 AM

Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:55:12 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 06:47:27 AM

I imagine the winner finishing with 10000 post because of the prize.

Imagine working with your entire family non stop posting crap only to get banned on the 29th. Shocked

I hope the moderators will do their job and consider the quality of the post more than the quantity, that should be the way or if they will consider quantity over quality, even if they have hundreds of moderators they cannot keep up with the number of post-flooding their forum
they should consider banning people, from the start to protect the integrity of forum.

For now their forum is just starting up and they do focus out quantity over quality for sure and the budget they had allocated is just really small thats why
they dont care on what most people do think off about spam.All they do care is to make their forum to be included on first page search or higher.
They might consider on cleaning it out but for now they do just let these spamming getting worst as day passed by.

The problem is they didn't have a good moderator or manager like what we have here, checking some of the post from time to time no one is getting ban, they want more post coming and the traffic is going up, maybe they want traffic to rank up first before they do something about it, of course the culprit here is the 1 bitcoin again, it feeds posters greed.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 07, 2019, 07:09:02 AM

So if you all agree that the Cryptotalk forum is all about spam and plagiarism, and not at all about useful discussion or content, why do you keep promoting them? You simply don't care as long as you get paid? Roll Eyes

Yes. Its not like I officially endorse them. Its like owning a billboard on the road and someone with a super shitty product paying me to place an ad. As long as it's not something illegal I will gladly take their money. If they don't care about their product (in this case their forum which becomes more shit by the day) but are still willing to pay ad space...who am I to judge? 🤣😂

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Quote from: dunfida on October 07, 2019, 07:21:15 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 07:12:17 AM

Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:55:12 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 06:47:27 AM

I imagine the winner finishing with 10000 post because of the prize.

Imagine working with your entire family non stop posting crap only to get banned on the 29th. Shocked

I hope the moderators will do their job and consider the quality of the post more than the quantity, that should be the way or if they will consider quantity over quality, even if they have hundreds of moderators they cannot keep up with the number of post-flooding their forum
they should consider banning people, from the start to protect the integrity of forum.

For now their forum is just starting up and they do focus out quantity over quality for sure and the budget they had allocated is just really small thats why
they dont care on what most people do think off about spam.All they do care is to make their forum to be included on first page search or higher.
They might consider on cleaning it out but for now they do just let these spamming getting worst as day passed by.

Honestly, the culprit is the 1 Bitcoin prize if they are only paying 30 post daily people will just stop after the 30 posts and will just wait for the timer to reset but because of the 1 Bitcoin contest they are on the race to have ten times of the maximum post, I have 1567 posts here in Bitcointalk after three years, it will be erased in just two weeks by posters on Cryptotalk Cheesy

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Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 07:12:17 AM

Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:55:12 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 06:47:27 AM

I imagine the winner finishing with 10000 post because of the prize.

Imagine working with your entire family non stop posting crap only to get banned on the 29th. Shocked

I hope the moderators will do their job and consider the quality of the post more than the quantity, that should be the way or if they will consider quantity over quality, even if they have hundreds of moderators they cannot keep up with the number of post-flooding their forum
they should consider banning people, from the start to protect the integrity of forum.

For now their forum is just starting up and they do focus out quantity over quality for sure and the budget they had allocated is just really small thats why
they dont care on what most people do think off about spam.All they do care is to make their forum to be included on first page search or higher.
They might consider on cleaning it out but for now they do just let these spamming getting worst as day passed by.

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Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:55:12 AM

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 06:47:27 AM

I imagine the winner finishing with 10000 post because of the prize.

Imagine working with your entire family non stop posting crap only to get banned on the 29th. Shocked

I hope the moderators will do their job and consider the quality of the post more than the quantity, that should be the way or if they will consider quantity over quality, even if they have hundreds of moderators they cannot keep up with the number of post-flooding their forum
they should consider banning people, from the start to protect the integrity of forum.

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Quote from: trumpman on October 07, 2019, 06:46:14 AM

If I take a random poop on my keyboard, the message that will come out will be 10 times better then the average post there.

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 06:47:27 AM

this is an invitation to flood the forum and for a whole family to work non stop

Quote from: MFahad on October 07, 2019, 06:55:29 AM

CryptoTalk should revise their campaign terms on their site and make some strict rules else it will ruin their purpose.

So if you all agree that the Cryptotalk forum is all about spam and plagiarism, and not at all about useful discussion or content, why do you keep promoting them? You simply don't care as long as you get paid? Roll Eyes

Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:55:12 AM

Maybe you looked at the number an hour ago....lols , they have 32k, and this is the start, I'm sure it will grow to 10k a day if not stopped.

I actually didn't even see their "Total Post" counter. I just very roughly added up the number of posts in each board, which comes out at around ~25k. Wonder why there is a difference? Perhaps deleted posts? Or do they have a couple of boards only members can see?

Either way, it's irrelevant. We are still talking about in the region of 0.1-0.15 BTC per week, which is less than the budget of several campaigns on here, including ones run by smaller exchanges or services.

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Quote from: UserU on October 07, 2019, 06:27:09 AM

Holy shit, they really do have the funds to fund spam, do they?

I am sure that is their intention, the fact that they hire a manager, that means they want to minimize the spam.
They have the funds to run a big campaign as they have a big target, and they are an exchange with millions of trading volume on a daily basis, so they are capable of doing that.

Thus far, this is an improvement as compared to the past, though they follow the same rules but they don't hire a manager to timely review posts from participants and ban those caught spamming.

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Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

The guy(girl), heck maybe it's the whole family is averaging 100 posts per day, that's almost what I've done in 3 weeks here Shocked

As for the quality..or the lack of it..enjoy:

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He is the founder of that foum, there are many stop there and admin is theymos. THere are legendary staff and moderators who maintain the forum. There are also DT1 and DT2 who put users account at negative trust!

This makes me think why there is police and law n order department in every department & country.

If there is no or little moderation, this type of things will popup. CryptoTalk should revise their campaign terms on their site and make some strict rules else it will ruin their purpose.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 07, 2019, 06:37:40 AM

They are only paying 1000 sats per post. Their entire forum currently has around 25k posts,

Maybe you looked at the number an hour ago....lols , they have 32k, and this is the start, I'm sure it will grow to 10k a day if not stopped.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 07, 2019, 06:37:40 AM

It does explains why the quality of user they are attracting is so poor, though, and why every single thread is either nonsense spam or plagiarized from here.

O yeah, took me 1 minute to find a topic that is filled with bots posts copied from bitcoin talk, this way they could even outrank the original in number of posts.

Anyhow, they have this contest going on:
https://cryptotalk.org/topic/16-contest-make-max-posts-and-win-1-btc/page/10/
So, that's an extra 2.3 BTC (assuming it's not a bot of theirs winning)

Quote from: smyslov on October 07, 2019, 06:47:27 AM

I imagine the winner finishing with 10000 post because of the prize.

Imagine working with your entire family non stop posting crap only to get banned on the 29th. Shocked

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Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

Checking their...top contributor..

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The guy(girl), heck maybe it's the whole family is averaging 100 posts per day, that's almost what I've done in 3 weeks here Shocked

As for the quality..or the lack of it..enjoy:

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He is the founder of that foum, there are many stop there and admin is theymos. THere are legendary staff and moderators who maintain the forum. There are also DT1 and DT2 who put users account at negative trust!

It makes me wonder how many tags he has on his account here. Grin

Please be careful while browsing that forum, the risks of brain cancer after more than 5 minutes of exposure to that much knowledge are quite high

After seeing people having that number of posts I did not register maybe I will register after the contest, so many people are going for that 1 Bitcoin prize, this is an invitation to flood the forum and for a whole family to work non stop, I imagine the winner finishing with 10000 post because of the prize.

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Quote from: stompix on October 07, 2019, 06:34:12 AM

Checking their...top contributor..

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JOINED
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The guy(girl), heck maybe it's the whole family is averaging 100 posts per day, that's almost what I've done in 3 weeks here Shocked

As for the quality..or the lack of it..enjoy:

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He is the founder of that foum, there are many stop there and admin is theymos. THere are legendary staff and moderators who maintain the forum. There are also DT1 and DT2 who put users account at negative trust!

It makes me wonder how many tags he has on his account here. Grin

Please be careful while browsing that forum, the risks of brain cancer after more than 5 minutes of exposure to that much knowledge are quite high

I am posting on that forum too (because of the 1k sats per post bounty) and I must say it's really disheartening at least. If I take a random poop on my keyboard, the message that will come out will be 10 times better then the average post there. And it got even worse after two days ago when they announced 1 whole btc bounty to whoever makes the most posts...LOL

They probably only care about numbers at this point, hoping to get as many registrations and people on board as quick as possible, but if they don't get their shit together and start banning people it will soon be a total shithole that nobody will bother to check once their pay per post bounty is over.

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Quote from: UserU on October 07, 2019, 06:27:09 AM

Holy shit, they really do have the funds to fund spam, do they?

They are only paying 1000 sats per post. Their entire forum currently has around 25k posts, meaning that even if they paid out for every post (which they won't due to the 30/day cap), it still only comes to 0.25 BTC since they launched two weeks ago. So they are probably paying around 0.1 BTC/week. This is far less than the weekly advertising budget of many signature campaigns on here. For an exchange with a reported daily volume of ~2700 BTC according to coinmarketcap, its really very little.

It does explains why the quality of user they are attracting is so poor, though, and why every single thread is either nonsense spam or plagiarized from here.

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Checking their...top contributor..

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JOINED
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CONTENT COUNT
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The guy(girl), heck maybe it's the whole family is averaging 100 posts per day, that's almost what I've done in 3 weeks here Shocked

As for the quality..or the lack of it..enjoy:

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He is the founder of that foum, there are many stop there and admin is theymos. THere are legendary staff and moderators who maintain the forum. There are also DT1 and DT2 who put users account at negative trust!

It makes me wonder how many tags he has on his account here. Grin

Please be careful while browsing that forum, the risks of brain cancer after more than 5 minutes of exposure to that much knowledge are quite high

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Holy shit, they really do have the funds to fund spam, do they?

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