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Topic: Cryptotalk forum payment issue and many more - page 4. (Read 2013 times)

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December 06, 2019, 10:25:12 AM
#91
Seems like yobit still paying for the posts which are made at cryptotalk that 1000 sats per post but why they didn't give any update about their bitcointalk signature campaign? Exit scam since their rank on alexa increased a lot. Roll Eyes
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December 06, 2019, 10:19:40 AM
#90
Yes it's a gamble and a stupid one at that.  If they're ending the campaign, would it kill them to just say that?  Why do participants have to play this guessing game with them as to whether they should continue or remove the signature?

I'm not dependent on these paltry yobit earnings for anything, as I participate just for the fun of earning some bitcoin and spending some time writing on bitcointalk. 
You seem not to be having fun anymore since you're complaining. Just drop the signature. You will still have the same fun composing replies and posts without the hazzle of worrying if you're getting paid.

At the same time, yobit owes me something like 0.0042BTC and goddamit I want to claim it.  lol
That balance ain't going anywhere. Claim it when you see here that they are paying again. Have been a participant of the first yobit sig campaign and this is not a new issue.
sr. member
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December 06, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
#89

I'm not dependent on these paltry yobit earnings for anything, as I participate just for the fun of earning some bitcoin and spending some time writing on bitcointalk.  At the same time, yobit owes me something like 0.0042BTC and goddamit I want to claim it.  lol

Then remove your signature and stop crying. You participate for fun right? The more you post the more you will got hurt because you are not paid for your fun. Find other campaign now that will paid you for your fun rather than continue posting with no payment.

Yes it took us several weeks before that button got working. Your balance will remain there even you will remove your signature.

Everyones know Yobits behaviour. You should expect this. Stop crying, put Yobit on your blacklist then move on. Its easy to recover from 0.004btc loss since its just a fun for you.

Even if someone writes because he likes, it does not mean that if someone promised something, you can not demand execution of his word.

Are you saying that we should tolerate Yobit's behavior and wait calmly without commenting on it?
legendary
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December 06, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
#88

I'm not dependent on these paltry yobit earnings for anything, as I participate just for the fun of earning some bitcoin and spending some time writing on bitcointalk.  At the same time, yobit owes me something like 0.0042BTC and goddamit I want to claim it.  lol

Then remove your signature and stop crying. You participate for fun right? The more you post the more you will got hurt because you are not paid for your fun. Find other campaign now that will paid you for your fun rather than continue posting with no payment.

Yes it took us several weeks before that button got working. Your balance will remain there even you will remove your signature.

Everyones know Yobits behaviour. You should expect this. Stop crying, put Yobit on your blacklist then move on. Its easy to recover from 0.004btc loss since its just a fun for you.
sr. member
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December 05, 2019, 09:20:30 PM
#87
They do always matter for maximum exposure for their benefit and
there were even some feedbacks that it took 1-3 months before that blue button worked once again.
I am at a loss to understand what you mean by this, but perhaps my built in language translator is malfunctioning.  Are you saying that in the previous yobit campaigns it took months for that button to work again?  What happened if members didn't post during that period?  Did they get kicked out with no payment whatsoever?

no update if they are going to paid or not and leave people guessing when is the next tap out of the wallet, this is a gambling for participants.
Yes it's a gamble and a stupid one at that.  If they're ending the campaign, would it kill them to just say that?  Why do participants have to play this guessing game with them as to whether they should continue or remove the signature?

I'm not dependent on these paltry yobit earnings for anything, as I participate just for the fun of earning some bitcoin and spending some time writing on bitcointalk.  At the same time, yobit owes me something like 0.0042BTC and goddamit I want to claim it.  lol
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December 05, 2019, 07:43:09 PM
#86
It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.
Maybe the frozen button is the next shady decision of Yobit management, they want to filter the weak hands before enabling this button again. Is there any idea if the user removes the signature and comes back to withdraw the signature post-earnings when they fix that blue button? This is not first time the broken payment chain hit the reputation of the campaign but for Cryptotalk campaign it never took more than 3-5 days.
I dont think so where this Frozen button is to shake out weak hands because this situation isnt new with Yobit.They do always matter for maximum exposure for their benefit and
there were even some feedbacks that it took 1-3 months before that blue button worked once again.

So this simply means that its their traditional business as usual.For participants which is highly dependent on campaign earnings would really rage out on such scenario.

Those who know this can keep up but how about those that just joined a Yobit campaign, they will likely leave the campaign for good and we will be seeing the same scenario, no update if they are going to paid or not and leave people guessing when is the next tap out of the wallet, this is a gambling for participants.
legendary
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December 05, 2019, 02:39:07 PM
#85
They did everything what is needed.
They did the bare minimum which was needed to not get banned, and only after multiple warnings. They still don't have a manager and still don't allow yahoo62278 to vet users before they join. The only reason they have reduced the number of posts is because they can't afford to keep up their ridiculous campaign, and not because of concerns regarding spam. If they really wanted to promote but not spam, they would go for quality over quantity and give a yahoo62278 full control.

it looks like aggressive marketing, which is ubiquitous nowadays.
Just because other people are spamming doesn't make it acceptable.
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December 05, 2019, 01:13:55 PM
#84
It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.
Maybe the frozen button is the next shady decision of Yobit management, they want to filter the weak hands before enabling this button again. Is there any idea if the user removes the signature and comes back to withdraw the signature post-earnings when they fix that blue button? This is not first time the broken payment chain hit the reputation of the campaign but for Cryptotalk campaign it never took more than 3-5 days.
I dont think so where this Frozen button is to shake out weak hands because this situation isnt new with Yobit.They do always matter for maximum exposure for their benefit and
there were even some feedbacks that it took 1-3 months before that blue button worked once again.

So this simply means that its their traditional business as usual.For participants which is highly dependent on campaign earnings would really rage out on such scenario.
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December 05, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
#83
It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.
Maybe the frozen button is the next shady decision of Yobit management, they want to filter the weak hands before enabling this button again. Is there any idea if the user removes the signature and comes back to withdraw the signature post-earnings when they fix that blue button? This is not first time the broken payment chain hit the reputation of the campaign but for Cryptotalk campaign it never took more than 3-5 days.
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December 05, 2019, 12:43:31 PM
#82
The user who got 1 BTC was also not making any serious discussions there either.  Cheesy
This is the problem with forums who want to keep it alive by paying for the posts. The moment you stop them payment, they move on and this is what the winner guy with 1 BTC did. You start another competition and he will come with another army of shitposters.

That user won't be returning to cryptotalk anytime soon. According to his last set of  posts in November , he was talking about how the forum isn't fit and should be cleaned up blah blah blah. I remember when he and his shit posting armies were dropping more than 300 spammy posts per day with little to no value.

It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.

If that was the case, i think the manager (yahoo) should be in a more better position to make such decisions.

sr. member
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December 05, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
#81
Don't be naive. They reduced the number of posts to spend less not to control spam. They also only hired someone as their manager because otherwise they would have been banned again from the forum. Cheesy

Why do you think they always take so long to refill their payment balance? Or why people on their forum keep complaining that they are receiving less than they should? They want the cheapest way of promoting their forum, so they can shill their scam products to people.
They were smart. They came to the forum with a huge promise of money, and got hundreds of users to sign up, and start wearing that signature. That resulted in most of the forum knowing what Cryptotalk was, and who was behind it. Yobit naturally came up whether it was controversy or those talking about the exchange through learning about it because many pointed out that the campaign was being run by Yobit. Their marketing team knew that controversy would occur, and their payment model of going big at first, and then stepping it down quickly would be the perfect way to get their name out there. They hired a reputable manager which meant it looked like they were trying to avoid spam this time, but when you have 600 participant in the same campaign, and over 400 banned by Yahoo that obviously isn't the best approach. The better approach would be allowing Yahoo full control of who can join the campaign. However, its probably more suitable for them to just end the campaign or limit the number of participants, and start again the future with a similar advertisement campaign.

In fact, the look from this side makes it look a little different. Well, having their signature will not objectively defend them further. However, from an even wider perspective - from outside Bitcointalk - it looks like aggressive marketing, which is ubiquitous nowadays. Life..
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December 05, 2019, 10:01:19 AM
#80
Don't be naive. They reduced the number of posts to spend less not to control spam. They also only hired someone as their manager because otherwise they would have been banned again from the forum. Cheesy

Why do you think they always take so long to refill their payment balance? Or why people on their forum keep complaining that they are receiving less than they should? They want the cheapest way of promoting their forum, so they can shill their scam products to people.
They were smart. They came to the forum with a huge promise of money, and got hundreds of users to sign up, and start wearing that signature. That resulted in most of the forum knowing what Cryptotalk was, and who was behind it. Yobit naturally came up whether it was controversy or those talking about the exchange through learning about it because many pointed out that the campaign was being run by Yobit. Their marketing team knew that controversy would occur, and their payment model of going big at first, and then stepping it down quickly would be the perfect way to get their name out there. They hired a reputable manager which meant it looked like they were trying to avoid spam this time, but when you have 600 participant in the same campaign, and over 400 banned by Yahoo that obviously isn't the best approach. The better approach would be allowing Yahoo full control of who can join the campaign. However, its probably more suitable for them to just end the campaign or limit the number of participants, and start again the future with a similar advertisement campaign.
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December 05, 2019, 09:55:43 AM
#79
It's quite obvious to see people facing issues in that forum the reason the number of spam posts people posting there.
What's the use of posts which doesn't convey a message or spread awareness or have any meaning.
Even if there are useful posts, it's probably posted in this forum already.
I don't see any potential use of that forum which might be the reason why they increased the posts count to 100 from 50 knowing people are posting shit.
No wonder why there are so many issues there.
legendary
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December 05, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
#78
Sorry, but I notice a inconsistency in your statement. From my point of view, Cryptotalk/Yobit is doing everything to avoid problems. They did everything what is needed. They reduced the number of posts from 20 to 5 per day, they employed a person who oversees spam. What else should they do to make you think their goal is not only spam but promotion - because that's what this campaign is for, right?!
Don't be naive. They reduced the number of posts to spend less not to control spam. They also only hired someone as their manager because otherwise they would have been banned again from the forum. Cheesy

Why do you think they always take so long to refill their payment balance? Or why people on their forum keep complaining that they are receiving less than they should? They want the cheapest way of promoting their forum, so they can shill their scam products to people.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with what you are saying. The funny thing is - even with their 1000 sats/post "promo" on cryptotalk they are paying more than many of our btc campaigns here. I have just had a closer look and what you guys mentioned before is so true - you really have a VERY hard time finding even one thread with something that could be called real conversation - I have never seen something like that before.  Cheesy While I have read many posts are being reported/deleted so they dont have to pay, I am not sure what their criteria is because... man, even now that forum is full of bs!  Cheesy

Edit: By "more" I mean if anyone manages to make the max paid post count of 30 per day.  Cheesy
legendary
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December 05, 2019, 09:11:22 AM
#77
Sorry, but I notice a inconsistency in your statement. From my point of view, Cryptotalk/Yobit is doing everything to avoid problems. They did everything what is needed. They reduced the number of posts from 20 to 5 per day, they employed a person who oversees spam. What else should they do to make you think their goal is not only spam but promotion - because that's what this campaign is for, right?!
Don't be naive. They reduced the number of posts to spend less not to control spam. They also only hired someone as their manager because otherwise they would have been banned again from the forum. Cheesy

Why do you think they always take so long to refill their payment balance? Or why people on their forum keep complaining that they are receiving less than they should? They want the cheapest way of promoting their forum, so they can shill their scam products to people.
sr. member
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December 05, 2019, 09:00:34 AM
#76
If Yobit is all about visibility, I'm surprised they only accept Senior +.
Lots of campaigns only accept Seniors or higher, or even only Hero and Legendary, because these users get the biggest signatures. Spam has nothing to do with it.

they do not want to make anything bad for the Bitcointalk community and that is why they only wanted high rank users.
Being high ranked doesn't mean you aren't a spammer, as this campaign and the hundreds of users yahoo62278 has banned proves. YoBit do not care about Bitcointalk - they only want to exploit it for their own gain. Their last campaign was such a spam fest which they refused to address that theymos had to step in and ban it altogether. The new campaign was exactly the same, and the only reason they hired yahoo62278 was to avoid being banned again. If they actually cared for the community then they would run a proper campaign as 1Referee has said, instead of this accept-anyone-and-everyone nonsense.

Sorry, but I notice a inconsistency in your statement. From my point of view, Cryptotalk/Yobit is doing everything to avoid problems. They did everything what is needed. They reduced the number of posts from 20 to 5 per day, they employed a person who oversees spam. What else should they do to make you think their goal is not only spam but promotion - because that's what this campaign is for, right?!
legendary
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December 05, 2019, 08:15:22 AM
#75
If Yobit is all about visibility, I'm surprised they only accept Senior +.
Lots of campaigns only accept Seniors or higher, or even only Hero and Legendary, because these users get the biggest signatures. Spam has nothing to do with it.

they do not want to make anything bad for the Bitcointalk community and that is why they only wanted high rank users.
Being high ranked doesn't mean you aren't a spammer, as this campaign and the hundreds of users yahoo62278 has banned proves. YoBit do not care about Bitcointalk - they only want to exploit it for their own gain. Their last campaign was such a spam fest which they refused to address that theymos had to step in and ban it altogether. The new campaign was exactly the same, and the only reason they hired yahoo62278 was to avoid being banned again. If they actually cared for the community then they would run a proper campaign as 1Referee has said, instead of this accept-anyone-and-everyone nonsense.
sr. member
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December 05, 2019, 07:14:55 AM
#74
It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.

Makes little sense. If they wanted to properly filter out the garbage posters, they would have shut it down on their end and let Yahoo manually select and pay the participants.

Yobit only cares about the exposure the posters with their signature on provide, and that's actually a lot because you can't open a thread without a few of them popping up in your face. The more annoyed we are looking at their signature, the more success they have because it means their signature is visible across all boards basically.

If they were all about spam, then my theory would make no sense. If Yobit is all about visibility, I'm surprised they only accept Senior +. If they wanted spam, they would accept all ranks. I think that even if they want to be visible as much as possible, they do not want to make anything bad for the Bitcointalk community and that is why they only wanted high rank users.
legendary
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December 05, 2019, 05:15:39 AM
#73
It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.

Makes little sense. If they wanted to properly filter out the garbage posters, they would have shut it down on their end and let Yahoo manually select and pay the participants.

Yobit only cares about the exposure the posters with their signature on provide, and that's actually a lot because you can't open a thread without a few of them popping up in your face. The more annoyed we are looking at their signature, the more success they have because it means their signature is visible across all boards basically.
sr. member
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December 05, 2019, 04:52:33 AM
#72
It crossed my mind that maybe they especially suspend the possibility of withdrawals, because they want people who joined only for profit to change their signature and thus get rid of the most spamming ones.
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