Judging from all the post here, Cryptotalk is trying to survive I think one thing that will contribute to its demise is not listening to their posters, posters have been trying to convince the admins and moderators to install a notification when member posts were deleted and adding more categories and local boards but its falls in deaf ears.
Topic: Cryptotalk is racist - page 3. (Read 737 times)
Cruptotalk is not the only forum who pays users for posting. I was invited recently to moderate a local board in one of them but i left it because the admins think it's a good method to invite more users but ignore that the forum will dead once stop paying.
I can guess that cryptotalk is not about to fight spammers, but just reduce the amount to pay for users as the forum got a lot of traffic from bitcointalk and may has more users than we think.
I can guess that cryptotalk is not about to fight spammers, but just reduce the amount to pay for users as the forum got a lot of traffic from bitcointalk and may has more users than we think.
To what I see, Yobit is exhausted now and not able to pay their users anymore. Trust me, this thought came to my mind just when I started thinking about their marketing strategy - they come, they spread spam, they leave. This time, they didn't get the chance here, they stopped the campaign here on this forum (or maybe they were exhausted as the funds would have been over, they already gave signals while not paying for around 2-3 weeks 2 times). They kept their cryptotalk campaign active in their forum to keep that place active, they wanted to stand as a competitor against Bitcointalk thinking that potential investors would buy ad spaces, start signature campaigns there and whatnot, but they entirely forgot the main thing and that's - SPAM. They didn't stop it but promoted it by paying for 30 posts and users took sheer advantage of the same, now when they are seeing that people are posting even shittiest of the comments to get paid that buck per post and while BTC's value has started to rise, they are probably looking to wind up their ongoing campaign on their forum too and end this once and for all for some more time. May be they won't come back again considering that BTC is poised to rise during this year and upcoming years.
Sooner or later i wont be surprised if their current per-post campaign would be stopped and in result, those fellas who do just hang out into that place for satoshis will flock away.
In result? It would be dead sooner or later.
Cruptotalk is not the only forum who pays users for posting. I was invited recently to moderate a local board in one of them but i left it because the admins think it's a good method to invite more users but ignore that the forum will dead once stop paying. In result? It would be dead sooner or later.
I can guess that cryptotalk is not about to fight spammers, but just reduce the amount to pay for users as the forum got a lot of traffic from bitcointalk and may has more users than we think.
If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.
I don't think it's a the right comparison here. Netflix,Spotify,etc don't provide services for users from some countries because of legal conditions as they have to take governmental authorisations to run some services that are sometimes forbidden by law. When it's not the case with cryptotalk who is lazy/silly to moderate the spam caused by the forum policy itself and accepts to be called "racist".I used to know Yobit as the most ignoring company who didn't ever care about building the good reputation, but what would they do with spammers from allowed countries.
It's a total shit forum, i am not surprised.
Sooner or later i wont be surprised if their current per-post campaign would be stopped and in result, those fellas who do just hang out into that place for satoshis will flock away.
In result? It would be dead sooner or later.
If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.
I don't think it's a the right comparison here. Netflix,Spotify,etc don't provide services for users from some countries because of legal conditions as they have to take governmental authorisations to run some services that are sometimes forbidden by law. When it's not the case with cryptotalk who is lazy/silly to moderate the spam caused by the forum policy itself and accepts to be called "racist".I used to know Yobit as the most ignoring company who didn't ever care about building the good reputation, but what would they do with spammers from allowed countries.
It's a total shit forum, i am not surprised.
How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.
Even ignoring the sheer stupidity of requiring KYC to post on a forum, the result would still be more or less the same. Honest users (if such users exist on Cryptotalk) would go away or would get fucked by Yobit reselling their docs, and spammers would submit fake docs if it's worth it for them to continue spamming.
Their whole model of paying pennies for shitposts is doomed to fail.
How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.
Even ignoring the sheer stupidity of requiring KYC to post on a forum, the result would still be more or less the same. Honest users (if such users exist on Cryptotalk) would go away or would get fucked by Yobit reselling their docs, and spammers would submit fake docs if it's worth it for them to continue spamming.
Their whole model of paying pennies for shitposts is doomed to fail.
KYC would even make matters worse for them.
I'm struggling to think of anyone I would trust less than YoBit with my KYC documents. Given just how scammy they are, I have zero faith in their security practices, and I have complete faith that my documents would be sold to 10 different people within a week. I'd prefer to open a credit card, write the PIN on the back of it, and hand it to a complete stranger.For those who doesn't know, Cryptotalk has always been censored. You say foul things about cryptotalk, you get banned. You say ill of yobit like complaining about their unresponsive customer support, you still get banned.
Of course they do this. They are not interested in having a discussion forum, in building a community, in contributing to bitcoin or crypto as a whole, or any of the things this forum does. They are interested in one thing and one thing only - how to get their users to sign up to YoBit so they can steal their bitcoin.Cryptotalk is dying. Now if only YoBit would do the same.
How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.
KYC would even make matters worse for them. Cryptotalk was created to be an open community just like bitcointalk and spamming has been a thing with forums for as long as I can remember. The best way has always been to moderate posts made in posts. Asking for people's personal information different from registration details defies the purpose. Their forum is getting into deep mess. Because the spamming won't stop there. They'll end up banning my countries to limit the countries that can connect to their website.
For those who doesn't know, Cryptotalk has always been censored. You say foul things about cryptotalk, you get banned. You say ill of yobit like complaining about their unresponsive customer support, you still get banned. The people there are just posting in fear.
This is a racist move. I know they won't ban people from Russia because that's where their admin team is based. So much for the "Bitcointalk" killer.
If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.
To make things even more clear, I have to ask: Why bitcointalk doesn't have each board for every country and why are some countries mixed together in Other languages/locations section?
Nor this, nor that action is racist. It wasn't just beneficial for them and decided to do what was needed and as suchmoon mentioned, it was just lazy behavior from them, easy deal.
And P.S. Google VPN in case you don't know what it is.
To make things even more clear, I have to ask: Why bitcointalk doesn't have each board for every country and why are some countries mixed together in Other languages/locations section?
Nor this, nor that action is racist. It wasn't just beneficial for them and decided to do what was needed and as suchmoon mentioned, it was just lazy behavior from them, easy deal.
And P.S. Google VPN in case you don't know what it is.
I think the problem is that people expect too much from Yobit. It has been an exchange that didn't ever care about any of their users, nor their reputation that went south as result of their shady actions. I can see why people get upset about this since it's very easy money they are missing out on now, but there isn't much that you can do but to move on.
It's safe to say that their campaign will either be paying like 10-100 satoshis per post, or stop entirely. Even Yobit will come to the conclusion that their forum doesn't stand a chance against any other crypto forum.
Theyre trying to build up a forum which would really be similar to this place but i would say that it wont really be that easy no matter how generous they are when paying up people just to lurk in into their forum.It's safe to say that their campaign will either be paying like 10-100 satoshis per post, or stop entirely. Even Yobit will come to the conclusion that their forum doesn't stand a chance against any other crypto forum.
I heavily agree into that point above that this action would be either totally a RACIST move or just simply a LAZY one yet they do want to get rid of spammers out of all of those places.
This act does really shows how centralized this place is which is totally contradictory if we do talk about the true essence of crypto.
Spam is not the fault of yobit, it is the fault of people who abuse the opportunity that yobit is giving them. from what I searched, in cryptotalk it is allowed to do a maximum of 30 post per day, this does not mean that people must do 30 post per day.... But unfortunately many people are creating alt accounts and make 30 post per day. yobit would have to do something to end these abuses
Sure it isn't their fault, but they've done least efforts to figure and fight it out, the first was the trailer that was seen on this forum when they allowed 20 posts a day to the users without anyone moderating them (2 times in a row if I'm not wrong when they did it without any manager and still paid their users for posting shit) and third time, when they were highly pressurized by Yahoo here to put it down to (first) 10 and then 5 posts max per day to be counted, they decided to stop the campaign here and shift everything at cryptotalk. Don't get me wrong, but what's the need of allowing 30 paid posts daily when they know they'll definitely fail in preventing spam? Why can't they lower the paid posts to 5 or 10 itself? That'll definitely let those users not post above 10 posts because they (spammers specifically) solely post for pennies and nothing all they want, they don't give a fuck to the forum's reputation nor theirs, they just need money and that's it. Why are cryptotalk people allowing this number at the very first point? Think.
They invited a bunch of locusts to come and stay and now the locusts have stripped the joint bare they seem surprised that they're no longer welcome.
I'm sure there are plenty of decent posters from those locations. I'm also sure there are many more shit ones.
They're not giving them the boot for fun. They weighed up the stats and acted accordingly.
I'm sure there are plenty of decent posters from those locations. I'm also sure there are many more shit ones.
They're not giving them the boot for fun. They weighed up the stats and acted accordingly.
after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post
They are the reason themselves to attract spammers to their ground if you're considering this 30 posts thing, because they are allowing their users themselves to make that amount of posts and also get paid for it (even though a buck, $1 is still something in developing countries which is why people will do anything - from making alt accounts to making unnecessary content and posting there and now they are complaining about spam - they were the ones who tried their best to convert this forum into a spam garden until a manager was assigned to manage the users.
Spam is not the fault of yobit, it is the fault of people who abuse the opportunity that yobit is giving them. from what I searched, in cryptotalk it is allowed to do a maximum of 30 post per day, this does not mean that people must do 30 post per day.... But unfortunately many people are creating alt accounts and make 30 post per day. yobit would have to do something to end these abuses
after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post
They are the reason themselves to attract spammers to their ground if you're considering this 30 posts thing, because they are allowing their users themselves to make that amount of posts and also get paid for it (even though a buck, $1 is still something in developing countries which is why people will do anything - from making alt accounts to making unnecessary content and posting there and now they are complaining about spam - they were the ones who tried their best to convert this forum into a spam garden until a manager was assigned to manage the users.
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly
What did people expect from a forum ran by YoBit? YoBit is a scam. They are quite happy to steal bitcoin from anybody who they can lure to their scam exchange with Ponzi schemes and made up tokens which don't exist. Why is anybody at all surprised that a company which shows absolutely zero decency is willing to ban entire countries? They don't care about their users, only about fleecing them for their bitcoin.This is truly unacceptable and not a good move for a forum who are giving an impression that they are here to promote crypto project. This move means their admin team is really poor to manage the forum.
The only thing they are here to promote is themselves. Given that everything they do is about maximizing their own profits at the direct expense of their users, it is no surprise that instead of paying for moderators to actually deal with the problem, they just take it out on the users instead.Why is anybody still using YoBit?
Looks like they generalize it all. If the rules are just going to be applied like banning the low quality posters after a warning they may not have to ban a whole posters from a country. There are certainly great users from different countries, I have to say my friends from India and Pakistan contributes a lot to develop websites content. Its their forum though, but probably some suggestions should be considered by the admin of cryptotalk.
after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post
This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly
I have a member account here but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue
I hate RACIST
Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly
I have a member account here but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue
I hate RACIST
Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member
Cryptotalk is always been a controversial forums and they keep on doing the cheap things which they think will improve the post quality but steps like these won't help. And mind it not all the the posters from these countries produces spam.
All the mods on that forum are from the Russians and in future they may admit only Russians to post.
This goes down to moderators not doing their job properly if they are doing it, they will send a warning to spammers not to spam but they are not banning people, they are only banning multiple accounts, spamming has no nationality it goes on individual character, they should just stop this pay per posts and just make themselves an ordinary forum, and add more category and local boards.
It's silly to say that this is racist 
They stated a very clear reason, they stopped paying because of the everlasting spammer 
What do you think this is racist? They did not mention the issue of race here, the people who post in those languages are pathogens. If I'm not mistaken, there is a language (here) that is also locked in this forum, the cause is by the spammers (they abuse it for continuity posting). The same goes for Cryptotalk, they reserves the right to cancel payment instead of moderating with spammers
They stated a very clear reason, they stopped paying because of the everlasting spammer What do you think this is racist? They did not mention the issue of race here, the people who post in those languages are pathogens. If I'm not mistaken, there is a language (here) that is also locked in this forum, the cause is by the spammers (they abuse it for continuity posting). The same goes for Cryptotalk, they reserves the right to cancel payment instead of moderating with spammersIt's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.
The notice says no payment, it does not mean they ban these languages Jump to: