Ok... I purchased one. Now... Do I need to convert USD to EUR before doing the wire transfer or does my bank do that for me. Forgive me... I've never done a wire transfer before.
Thanks in advanced.
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Avalon 821 Pre-Orders for march are online 
# Limited to 10pcs / Customer
# Wire only
# Cryptopayments will be released in a few days
We had to remove paypal because pre-orders are against their terms of use.
# Limited to 10pcs / Customer
# Wire only
# Cryptopayments will be released in a few days
We had to remove paypal because pre-orders are against their terms of use.
I havent received the controller yet, and thought i would try to power it up.
Will this unit not power on without the controller?
Will this unit not power on without the controller?
you can power the miner without controller too, but obviously it will just go to idle and do nothing
I havent received the controller yet, and thought i would try to power it up.
Will this unit not power on without the controller?
Will this unit not power on without the controller?
They are not substracting VAT from the final amount for EU VAT registered company also. That should be substracted.
According to their TOS:
Won't take that risk before they fix their pricing or state clearly that VAT is deducted after hitting the final order button.
edit: Now it works. Had to drop country prefix from VAT code.
According to their TOS:
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In the event of default, interest on arrears in the amount of 4% will be charged.
In the case of non-timely payment, a reminder fee of EUR 12.00 per reminder is due.
In the case of non-timely payment, a reminder fee of EUR 12.00 per reminder is due.
Won't take that risk before they fix their pricing or state clearly that VAT is deducted after hitting the final order button.
edit: Now it works. Had to drop country prefix from VAT code.
Our shop system uses GEO-IP to determine if vat applies. There is a double check on the checkout where VAT gets verified with shipping address...
Also we use EU-VIES service to check VAT Numbers. If you enter a wrong VAT code, VAT won't get subtracted.
They are not substracting VAT from the final amount for EU VAT registered company also. That should be substracted.
According to their TOS:
Won't take that risk before they fix their pricing or state clearly that VAT is deducted after hitting the final order button.
edit: Now it works. Had to drop country prefix from VAT code.
According to their TOS:
Quote
In the event of default, interest on arrears in the amount of 4% will be charged.
In the case of non-timely payment, a reminder fee of EUR 12.00 per reminder is due.
In the case of non-timely payment, a reminder fee of EUR 12.00 per reminder is due.
Won't take that risk before they fix their pricing or state clearly that VAT is deducted after hitting the final order button.
edit: Now it works. Had to drop country prefix from VAT code.
And there you go... a little short of 20%, but close enough as it does vary.
Wow, I pity the folks in EU that have to buy one as a result... at least at exchange rates with the USD that would be both arms and legs.
We are getting charged 20% VAT (of total price including transport) for any non EU import. When I hear US people complaining that they are paying 50$ tax for one S9 I just
BITCOIN Mining Set Avalon 821 – PRE ORDER
€4,110.00 excl. shipping
Availability: In Stock
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AvalonMiner 821 – PRE ORDER
€3,800.00 excl. shipping
Availability: In Stock
And there you go... a little short of 20%, but close enough as it does vary.
Wow, I pity the folks in EU that have to buy one as a result... at least at exchange rates with the USD that would be both arms and legs.
They said that would be removed after it's all said and done. That's what I was told.
Did they say what % of VAT would be deducted? 20% would make a pretty big difference.
Not sure what other people are seeing as the EU price, but I see $3166.67 EU. They *say* thats because of my IP address, its determined that I'm already in the US so that price already had VAT taken off of it. I went to the site logged in under a user account and without and it shows me the same price (which btw, is the $4100 US price).
I'd be really curious what those in the EU see as the price. When I brought up the fact that I wasn't seeing VAT removed, they told me that it already had been. If you know what the EU is seeing for pricing vs. the US price (above), you'll know what the VAT reduction is. Typically it's 20%... (But not in all cases).
Too rich for me at that price... had 20% been taken off that and then promoted to USD, that would have been more reasonable, but it appears the US price (after VAT removal) is $4100.
So, what do people in the EU see for a price?
curious minds want to know...
BITCOIN Mining Set Avalon 821 – PRE ORDER
€4,110.00 excl. shipping
Availability: In Stock
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AvalonMiner 821 – PRE ORDER
€3,800.00 excl. shipping
Availability: In Stock
They said that would be removed after it's all said and done. That's what I was told.
Did they say what % of VAT would be deducted? 20% would make a pretty big difference.
Not sure what other people are seeing as the EU price, but today I see $3166.67 EU (this does differ from the original 3346 that I had first seen). They *say* thats because of my IP address, its determined that I'm already in the US so that price already had VAT taken off of it. I went to the site logged in under a user account and without and it shows me the same price (which btw, is the $4100 US price).
I'd be really curious what those in the EU see as the price. When I brought up the fact that I wasn't seeing VAT removed, they told me that it already had been. If you know what the EU is seeing for pricing vs. the US price (above), you'll know what the VAT reduction is. Typically it's 20%... (But not in all cases).
Too rich for me at that price... had 20% been taken off that and then promoted to USD, that would have been more reasonable, but it appears the US price (after VAT removal) is $4100.
So, what do people in the EU see for a price?
curious minds want to know...
They said that would be removed after it's all said and done. That's what I was told.
Did they say what % of VAT would be deducted? 20% would make a pretty big difference.
Nope, as the price doesn't say what part is VAT and what part is miner package
They said that would be removed after it's all said and done. That's what I was told.
Did they say what % of VAT would be deducted? 20% would make a pretty big difference.
So, I'm completely confused. I heard from the Crypto guys yesterday, they *claim* that the VAT is subtracted from a US sale. But it doesn't seem to be that way. There are 821's there, and if you go through the process, it will try to bill you $4100 US. However typically VAT is 20% so take 3347 minus 20% and convert that to USD and it should say that someone in the US can buy them for ~3000.00 USD. But that's aint working. Did anyone in the US buy an 821? If so, was the VAT removed? And what was the net price?
Curious minds want to know.
Curious minds want to know.
They said that would be removed after it's all said and done. That's what I was told.
I expected there to be but FedEx just dropped it off and didn't ask for any money.
Thanks for the heads-up
It will be similar to 741, once availability gets better (around march or later) , the device will also be cheaper from china for us. Right now the ASIC market is crazy.
See Canaan's official information:
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Ship dates: After we finish the last 741 and 761, the 821 will go into production in January. I wish I had exact dates, but as of today I only have estimates. We should be able to ship to a small number of customers in late January. We will contact the customers who have been selected for January shipment, so please be patient.
In February and March volumes will increase, but be advised that February has Chinese New Year and we will shut down between the 14th and the 23rd.
In February and March volumes will increase, but be advised that February has Chinese New Year and we will shut down between the 14th and the 23rd.
So I received my 741 from Crypto-universe about an hour ago and it is up and mining on slush pool. Though I agree that Canaan has overpriced the 821, crypto-universe has great customer service and shipping only took a week to the United States. Thanks again I'll be sure to leave you trust!
I also received the 2 x 741 units today. It took less than a week for delivery. Fast service for sure.
I expected there to be but FedEx just dropped it off and didn't ask for any money.
Same here
So, I'm completely confused. I heard from the Crypto guys yesterday, they *claim* that the VAT is subtracted from a US sale. But it doesn't seem to be that way. There are 821's there, and if you go through the process, it will try to bill you $4100 US. However typically VAT is 20% so take 3347 minus 20% and convert that to USD and it should say that someone in the US can buy them for ~3000.00 USD. But that's aint working. Did anyone in the US buy an 821? If so, was the VAT removed? And what was the net price?
Curious minds want to know.
Curious minds want to know.
Nice, good to know. Congrats on your 741! Still bummed I wasn't able to score one, especially after seeing the 821 pricing.
I expected there to be but FedEx just dropped it off and didn't ask for any money.
So I received my 741 from Crypto-universe about an hour ago and it is up and mining on slush pool. Though I agree that Canaan has overpriced the 821, crypto-universe has great customer service and shipping only took a week to the United States. Thanks again I'll be sure to leave you trust!
Were there any duty/import fees to the US?
So I received my 741 from Crypto-universe about an hour ago and it is up and mining on slush pool. Though I agree that Canaan has overpriced the 821, crypto-universe has great customer service and shipping only took a week to the United States. Thanks again I'll be sure to leave you trust!
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