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D1P3 - TNABC 2015 - PAUL VERNON CEO CRYPTSY From Bitcoin to Dogecoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdOEgAG8PLU

Here's Paul Vernon's timeline (you're not gonna believe this!):

2011: Fires up a GPU in the living room. Wife mad cause it made too much noise, blah blah blah. Paul quits Bitcoin end of year.

2012: Paul registers Cryptsy.com (he did that mention this fact).

2013: (... wait for it ...) Paul rediscovers Bitcoin via some article. Pulls out the old GPU and fires it back up, but no bitcoins (he figured out why - ASICs). He found an old wallet and realized he was rich. (... here it comes ...) (paraphrased) "This was about the time that Litecoin was created sparking my interest anew. So, back to BitcoinTalk I cruised."

For those slow and didn't catch it:

Via Wikipedia: Litecoin   Date of introduction   7 October 2011; 4 years ago

To be fair to Paul, I'm only 5 minutes into the 20 minute video, so perhaps he corrected his mistake somewhere within.

EDIT: Holy fuckin' shit! (~5:15 minute mark) He just said that after finding Litecoin (2013) on a thread, he reworked his GPU and starting mining litcoins. It was easy because the difficulty was low and not many people were mining it. Paul Vernon has lost his motherfuckin' mind!

Thanks to HippiTech's post at Feathercoin, I watched above youtube video.
It surprised me Paul confessed two things during the talk:
1. 2min10: Paul confessed with bitcoin he gets "to feel like a hacker".
So Paul translated his feelings (words) into deeds?!

2.6min43: "Paul confessed he generates about 20 different coins, and makes a new coin when the difficulty for mining gets to high".
It is many times discussed in this thread that cryptsy listed a lot of "in house scam coins" created by their own developers copy coin cloners, but it is nice to hear it straight from his mouth.

About his story fairytale about litecoin, Paul is at least consistent. (that he discovered and mined LTC not earlier than 2013):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vynm0xbCak



With the help of BitJohn (John Hammes) leading the pack from his office at the edge of an Afghanistan war zone, in just a couple months, Paul Vernon went from mining Litecoin and creating a pool till that was no longer fruitful (a lie, for it was basically no longer fruitful), to ~20 other altcoin pools via requests from its users, to starting an exchange, again, via requests from its users, opening Cryptsy on May 20, 2013, sans a single employee until circa October 2013.

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Domain Name: CRYPTSY.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1701325931_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-10-23T14:00:26.00Z
Creation Date: 2012-02-09T17:45:01.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-02-09T17:45:00.00Z

Paul Vernon registered Cryptsy in February 2012, while on break from mining bitcoins in 2011. How many bitcoins did Paul mine with his GPU miners in 2011? ONLY 10 BTC before putting the rigs away and forgetting about the coins till he read about Bitcoin again in 2013, but for some reason registered cryptsy.com in early 2012. All them GPUs, all the heat, and all the noise, Paul Vernon was able to ONLY muster up 10 BTC while the rest of the community was fairing much better with their setups.

At the time of the interview and Paul's talk, nobody questioned his timeline. But if they had, perhaps the Cryptsy fiasco could've been avoided. I say perhaps because we have Marshall Long, Nick Spanos, Leroy Fodor and Craig Wright all proclaiming to be trading bitcoins in 2009 when this forum had ONLY 17 (definitely not 20) registered users, yet nobody 'cept myself (more or less) bringing to light that their claims are also 100% lies, espoused so to move forward their respective nefarious activities. Hell, theymos didn't even register till February 08, 2010, as this forum's 35th user.
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D1P3 - TNABC 2015 - PAUL VERNON CEO CRYPTSY From Bitcoin to Dogecoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdOEgAG8PLU

Here's Paul Vernon's timeline (you're not gonna believe this!):

2011: Fires up a GPU in the living room. Wife mad cause it made too much noise, blah blah blah. Paul quits Bitcoin end of year.

2012: Paul registers Cryptsy.com (he did that mention this fact).

2013: (... wait for it ...) Paul rediscovers Bitcoin via some article. Pulls out the old GPU and fires it back up, but no bitcoins (he figured out why - ASICs). He found an old wallet and realized he was rich. (... here it comes ...) (paraphrased) "This was about the time that Litecoin was created sparking my interest anew. So, back to BitcoinTalk I cruised."

For those slow and didn't catch it:

Via Wikipedia: Litecoin   Date of introduction   7 October 2011; 4 years ago

To be fair to Paul, I'm only 5 minutes into the 20 minute video, so perhaps he corrected his mistake somewhere within.

EDIT: Holy fuckin' shit! (~5:15 minute mark) He just said that after finding Litecoin (2013) on a thread, he reworked his GPU and starting mining litcoins. It was easy because the difficulty was low and not many people were mining it. Paul Vernon has lost his motherfuckin' mind!

Thanks to HippiTech's post at Feathercoin, I watched above youtube video.
It surprised me Paul confessed two things during the talk:
1. 2min10: Paul confessed with bitcoin he gets "to feel like a hacker".
So Paul translated his feelings (words) into deeds?!

2.6min43: "Paul confessed he generates about 20 different coins, and makes a new coin when the difficulty for mining gets to high".
It is many times discussed in this thread that cryptsy listed a lot of "in house scam coins" created by their own developers copy coin cloners, but it is nice to hear it straight from his mouth.

About his story fairytale about litecoin, Paul is at least consistent. (that he discovered and mined LTC not earlier than 2013):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vynm0xbCak



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Cryptsy hacker sent some of Bitcoins to OK Coin on address - 1NLCnAtWijTNoZG97uPAXVjMRA4HJzHkzH

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1NLCnAtWijTNoZG97uPAXVjMRA4HJzHkzH



That fucker have coin n not Even thinking about hug customers have not get any coin newly users who got rape badly .. And nothing

I wish up coming time court take strong actions again him
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Cryptsy hacker sent some of Bitcoins to OK Coin on address - 1NLCnAtWijTNoZG97uPAXVjMRA4HJzHkzH

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1NLCnAtWijTNoZG97uPAXVjMRA4HJzHkzH

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In that case keep an eye on the exchanges that swap BTC to USD.  All you need is one amount to match that movement into an exchange that does BTC USD to know where he is hiding his money. I doubt his lawyer is accepting BTC payment or doing conversions for him. Or his clever enough to think to move btc to cny to usd or any other mix.

He cash out till now probably all BTCs taken after Cryptsy theft. 6000 BTC for the house and SUVs,764 BTC for Bitebi9 opening,few thousands for salaries of Cryptsy employees and various exchange expenses,he paid his wife lawyers during divorce lawsuit and tax for big house.

Dont forget he tried to move and sell UNOs in April,just 2 days before receivership.These Unos were worth ~ 50.000 dollars

Bitebi9 brought to him only expenses,he gave all his assets and bank accounts in US to his former wife.Now he must pay alimony,his lawyer,Chinese lover, ... just expenses and no incomes.

Bitebi9 closure is just one example that he is in serious cash shortage.He took 43 BTCs from Bitebi9 wallet,so if he is a hacker he has no choice but to take BTCs from stolen altcoins,because BTCs from Cryptsy cold wallet are too hot.Hacker does not use mixers,because he is afraid that they will steal BTCs from him and if he put them directly on exchanges they will seize them.
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Cryptsy "hacker" made big move yesterday.

In multiple transactions he moved 463 BTC ~ 208.000 dollars from the wallet where are BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.He is constantly using TOR with exit node on IP 185.38.14.215

He is not moving BTCs on exchanges,but sending them in small amounts on multiple single addresses(every address got only 1 input transaction) trying to shake off and confuse blockchain investigators.Obviously he thinks that will be much harder to monitor so many addresses,but because they have same point of origin, it is not nearly as hard as he thinks.

Are you writing the FBI's guide to tracking cryptocurrency movements?


No,that guide is for mine eyes only. Cheesy
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In that case keep an eye on the exchanges that swap BTC to USD.  All you need is one amount to match that movement into an exchange that does BTC USD to know where he is hiding his money. I doubt his lawyer is accepting BTC payment or doing conversions for him. Or his clever enough to think to move btc to cny to usd or any other mix.
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Cryptsy "hacker" made big move yesterday.

In multiple transactions he moved 463 BTC ~ 208.000 dollars from the wallet where are BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.He is constantly using TOR with exit node on IP 185.38.14.215

He is not moving BTCs on exchanges,but sending them in small amounts on multiple single addresses(every address got only 1 input transaction) trying to shake off and confuse blockchain investigators.Obviously he thinks that will be much harder to monitor so many addresses,but because they have same point of origin, it is not nearly as hard as he thinks.

Timing is suspicious

-  btc migrating
-  Bitebi9 migrating

all connected through one big vern

any way to monitor bitebi9 wallets and see if transactions in ultimately add up to sum of those moving out from the stolen funds?



Bitebi9 BTC wallet is virtually dead.He took all of BTCs from it on 13th.April - 43.41 BTC and sent them to BTCC China to sell

Last transaction was on 26th April and now there is 4.5 BTC in it:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00abfb6d632bc9b7

He has alimony expenses plus he hired the best lawyer for scam cases in Florida and Iam sure it cost a lot.Would be interesting if he is paying his former wife lawyers,because she is accused too.



Yesterday was May 6.  Some big movement in the court case May 1 to May 5. May 6 court information will show up later. I think you will find the reason or cause of this movement of btc inside these court documents

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10497012/Liu_v_Project_Investors,_Inc_et_al

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Cryptsy "hacker" made big move yesterday.

In multiple transactions he moved 463 BTC ~ 208.000 dollars from the wallet where are BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.He is constantly using TOR with exit node on IP 185.38.14.215

He is not moving BTCs on exchanges,but sending them in small amounts on multiple single addresses(every address got only 1 input transaction) trying to shake off and confuse blockchain investigators.Obviously he thinks that will be much harder to monitor so many addresses,but because they have same point of origin, it is not nearly as hard as he thinks.

Timing is suspicious

-  btc migrating
-  Bitebi9 migrating

all connected through one big vern

any way to monitor bitebi9 wallets and see if transactions in ultimately add up to sum of those moving out from the stolen funds?



Bitebi9 BTC wallet is virtually dead.He took all of BTCs from it on 13th.April - 43.41 BTC and sent them to BTCC China to sell

Last transaction was on 26th April and now there is 4.5 BTC in it:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00abfb6d632bc9b7

He has alimony expenses plus he hired the best lawyer for scam cases in Florida and Iam sure it cost a lot.Would be interesting if he is paying his former wife lawyers,because she is accused too.




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Cryptsy "hacker" made big move yesterday.

In multiple transactions he moved 463 BTC ~ 208.000 dollars from the wallet where are BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.He is constantly using TOR with exit node on IP 185.38.14.215

He is not moving BTCs on exchanges,but sending them in small amounts on multiple single addresses(every address got only 1 input transaction) trying to shake off and confuse blockchain investigators.Obviously he thinks that will be much harder to monitor so many addresses,but because they have same point of origin, it is not nearly as hard as he thinks.

Are you writing the FBI's guide to tracking cryptocurrency movements?
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Cryptsy "hacker" made big move yesterday.

In multiple transactions he moved 463 BTC ~ 208.000 dollars from the wallet where are BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.He is constantly using TOR with exit node on IP 185.38.14.215

He is not moving BTCs on exchanges,but sending them in small amounts on multiple single addresses(every address got only 1 input transaction) trying to shake off and confuse blockchain investigators.Obviously he thinks that will be much harder to monitor so many addresses,but because they have same point of origin, it is not nearly as hard as he thinks.

Timing is suspicious

-  btc migrating
-  Bitebi9 migrating

all connected through one big vern

any way to monitor bitebi9 wallets and see if transactions in ultimately add up to sum of those moving out from the stolen funds?
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Cryptsy "hacker" made big move yesterday.

In multiple transactions he moved 463 BTC ~ 208.000 dollars from the wallet where are BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.He is constantly using TOR with exit node on IP 185.38.14.215

He is not moving BTCs on exchanges,but sending them in small amounts on multiple single addresses(every address got only 1 input transaction) trying to shake off and confuse blockchain investigators.Obviously he thinks that will be much harder to monitor so many addresses,but because they have same point of origin, it is not nearly as hard as he thinks.
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This just in.. they have renamed muddafudda's Starcoin "lumens" and are currently laundering some of your stolen goods over at Poloniex ! lol

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_str

BigVern, BitJohn, Horus, Mudda.. OldmanKid.. I/we see you. Wink
oh my

Lumens are Stellar, not Starcoin.

STR = Stellar = Lumens
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This just in.. they have renamed muddafudda's Starcoin "lumens" and are currently laundering some of your stolen goods over at Poloniex ! lol

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_str

BigVern, BitJohn, Horus, Mudda.. OldmanKid.. I/we see you. Wink
oh my
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I was staying out of this for a while to keep my head (and the thread) cleaner... but I just had to chime in...


Anyone been to www.bitebi9.com today?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Looks like the craptsy crew screwed the Chinese customers over too! 

Lol yap it gone  Grin or he kidnap hahahahahaha

As I see Bitebi9 changed provider and goes to HICHINA.They previously used 5 servers,now only 2.
Liu Xiuxia is still registrant,but site is inactive.

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/bitebi9.com.html



do you think they come back

It looks like they are moving site on new servers,but it is suspicious they did not put any information on index page or on Twitter. We will see for few days.

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I was staying out of this for a while to keep my head (and the thread) cleaner... but I just had to chime in...


Anyone been to www.bitebi9.com today?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Looks like the craptsy crew screwed the Chinese customers over too! 

Lol yap it gone  Grin or he kidnap hahahahahaha

As I see Bitebi9 changed provider and goes to HICHINA.They previously used 5 servers,now only 2.
Liu Xiuxia is still registrant,but site is inactive.

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/bitebi9.com.html



do you think they come back
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I was staying out of this for a while to keep my head (and the thread) cleaner... but I just had to chime in...


Anyone been to www.bitebi9.com today?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Looks like the craptsy crew screwed the Chinese customers over too! 

Lol yap it gone  Grin or he kidnap hahahahahaha

As I see Bitebi9 changed provider and goes to HICHINA.They previously used 5 servers,now only 2.
Liu Xiuxia is still registrant,but site is inactive.

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/bitebi9.com.html


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ALERT!!!


BTCs obtained from "hacker" selling altcoins are in the move.

4 transactions(24 BTCs) came out yesterday



Fourth(last) transaction came out of Belize


"Hacker" used Tor ,but I sucessfully found his Bitcoin network exit nodes in Nederland 185.38.14.215 and more important 62.45.122.228

Coins are moved to address 1NHu8rMmMPezBX3uQEjtSCtFLRrVtGQYnn

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/fa618e6ed487073a?from_address=1NHu8rMmMPezBX3uQEjtSCtFLRrVtGQYnn


All points that "hacker" has moved BTCs to his wallets in Nederland (Cryptsy servers were too in Nederland)

Are these the hacker coins from that address paul posted i.e. the fabled 13,000 stash?

If not and its cryptsy coins is it possible that the receivers now have proper control and are moving?


These BTCs are from wallet where hacker put BTCs he obtained from selling stolen altcoins of Cryptsy on different exchanges.

Last transactions he made yesterday - he used TOR  trying to conceal them,but in fact just by following blockchain txs you can find exit nodes.Cant conceal blockchain.

All his exit nodes were in Nederland.

One more detail - I carefully studied how he transmitted transactions and Iam sure it is not ordinary desktop BTC wallet,but specialized version used by exchanges,but it is not multisignature.





Well done. What makes you think its not an ordinary desktop BTC wallet? I assume it the frequency and split of the transactions which makes it program like nature on the movements. I.e. time delays exact split amounts etc. We all know its paul vernon or someone in cryptsy that did the stealing.

What i can't for the life of me understand is why are they moving the altcoin sell funds and not the stolen btc funds. Those just don't move but its the biggest cash cow. Its defying logic. Is he hoping he can move sold altcoins and nobody will notice?

If those btc go to a china exchange its almost definite that its paul. No other reason.

I wonder if these findings can be submitted to an exchange alliance to prevent any acceptance of the coins or freeze them when they come in.


The way how hacker BTC wallet is automatically branching transactions is the same I saw at Cryptsy, Bittrex,BTC-e. Withdrawal requests are grouping and transmitting one by one in each new mined block.


Why hacker did not move stolen BTCs first? Good question.

Unlikely to the other hackers,this hacker does not trust Bitcoin mixers,but was absolutely convinced that is perfectly safe to sell stolen altcoins sending them directly to the exchanges for almost a year.He was right,nobody from Cryptsy did not react and stop him.

He does not want to use mixers and probably he is not sure that BTC exchanges wont take his Bitcoins if he try to move them from huge stash,so he moves BTCs obtained from selling altcoins.

From monitoring his transactions,he uses TOR(which is useless for this purpose), splitting and sending BTCs in small amount to his numerous BTC wallets on different servers,mimicking mixers.From there he puts them in different sites for one more mixing round.Intersetingly,all his TOR exit nodes are in Nederland.

I performed one more thing.I did temporal analysis of his wallet.Through monitoring the time he did transactions,it can be easily viewed in what time zone he is,when he sleeps,works.All point that he lives in East Coast of US.

Today he took additional 10 BTCs, 35 BTCs for 2 days ~ $15500 or 6 months Vern alimony.

Dissapearing of Bitebi9 and starting moving BTCs at the same time? - maybe it is not coincedence at all - Vern is trying to cut expenses,cash shortage,plus he is paying best lawyer in Florida for scam cases and it is not cheap for sure.

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I was staying out of this for a while to keep my head (and the thread) cleaner... but I just had to chime in...


Anyone been to www.bitebi9.com today?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Looks like the craptsy crew screwed the Chinese customers over too! 

Lol yap it gone  Grin or he kidnap hahahahahaha
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