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Bye, bye, crypto, no more fiat from me.  Sad
vip
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Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.
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A few months before the supposed hack you also have the opening of MN Contracts. MN was first then MN2 10,000 shares were put up. Only 5,000 were sold at .180. They supposedly used Cloud Hashing. So how did they pay Cloud hashing for 100 Terahash if they only collected 5,000 shares? Bait n Switched into the market too since it opened before 10K. This was the red flag that made me pull my bitcoin from Cryptsy and among other things like Raffling of 200 MN2 shares for 28 bitcoin total of Cryptsy points. This can only add to the overall suspicion that puts the coin in coincidence. These shares could be fake in my opinion and a way to hold people in the markets while they prepare an exit strategy. Initially Cryptsy said they were not allowed to disclose the hash provider. Coincidence??


That about MN2 shares is just tip of the iceberg.

They paid 175 BTC to Cloud Hashing for 10000 MN2 share,with ours money.

They simply took 175 BTC from "cold" wallet(  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2 )and sent to Cloud hashing on 10.Apr.2014 :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3151782bc1b3ab193b35158359fec3ed2ec36bcd3b17af4df712316d7700ca0c



Also,from same "cold" wallet they took 1222 BTC on 22.Apr.2014 (~ $550.000 worth at that date)


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8d15ce38add27d4e9377b179acf927989e219eee14dcc39132d9c424a3974515

Where did that so much money go?


From 5-19.June.2014. through 3 transactions 1575 BTC( ~ $600 for 1 BTC then =   $945.000 ) fly away from Cryptsy cold wallet -  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

In total 550,000 + 945,000 =  $1.495.000 went from Cryptsy cold wallet before 29.July hack.


After exchange hacked, with so much financial problems and ravaged by huge debt, BV has enough money to buy new house on 25.March.2015 worth $1.374.881 :

http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/Asps/PropertyDetail/PropertyDetail.aspx?parcel=00424629130003540&

1.374.881 for new house and taken 1.495.000 from exchange - another coincidence ? or we gave loan for we even did not know to exist ?


Horus should be done with his investigation any sec down to report back to this thread with his findings as promised. Rest assured that the Freemason, Horus, filed a report with SARs about the millions missing from Cryptsy's coffer since his boss, Paul Vernon, didn't have a clue as to whom or what agency the event should be reported too.

Let's just say that Horus best have filed something for I have a feeling  Wink Wink Wink that his name is included as part of the culprits over at Cryptsy, and that it's to his best interest to start singing like a spring robin otherwise he best start exercising his ass so to accommodate all future visitors.
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Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.
...


A few months before the supposed hack you also have the opening of MN Contracts. MN was first then MN2 10,000 shares were put up. Only 5,000 were sold at .180. They supposedly used Cloud Hashing. So how did they pay Cloud hashing for 100 Terahash if they only collected 5,000 shares? Bait n Switched into the market too since it opened before 10K. This was the red flag that made me pull my bitcoin from Cryptsy and among other things like Raffling of 200 MN2 shares for 28 bitcoin total of Cryptsy points. This can only add to the overall suspicion that puts the coin in coincidence. These shares could be fake in my opinion and a way to hold people in the markets while they prepare an exit strategy. Initially Cryptsy said they were not allowed to disclose the hash provider. Coincidence??


That about MN2 shares is just tip of the iceberg.

They paid 175 BTC to Cloud Hashing for 10000 MN2 share,with ours money.

They simply took 175 BTC from "cold" wallet(  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2 )and sent to Cloud hashing on 10.Apr.2014 :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3151782bc1b3ab193b35158359fec3ed2ec36bcd3b17af4df712316d7700ca0c



Also,from same "cold" wallet they took 1222 BTC on 22.Apr.2014 (~ $550.000 worth at that date)


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8d15ce38add27d4e9377b179acf927989e219eee14dcc39132d9c424a3974515

Where did that so much money go?


From 5-19.June.2014. through 3 transactions 1575 BTC( ~ $600 for 1 BTC then =   $945.000 ) fly away from Cryptsy cold wallet -  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

In total 550,000 + 945,000 =  $1.495.000 went from Cryptsy cold wallet before 29.July hack.


After exchange hacked, with so much financial problems and ravaged by huge debt, BV has enough money to buy new house on 25.March.2015 worth $1.374.881 :

http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/Asps/PropertyDetail/PropertyDetail.aspx?parcel=00424629130003540&

1.374.881 for new house and taken 1.495.000 from exchange - another coincidence ? or we gave loan for we even did not know to exist ?










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I wonder if anybody filled out the form accusing Paul Vernon of funding terrorist.  Wink Wink Wink
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ? WHY ARE YOU NOT REPORTING THIS CRIME? REPORT TO EVERY RELEVANT BODY IN THE USA LOCAL POLICE IN FLORIDA EVERYBODY YOU CAN .GO.
vip
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I wonder if anybody filled out the form accusing Paul Vernon of funding terrorist.  Wink Wink Wink

Here's a good question: If Paul Vernon's funding terrorist, why is Leroy Fodor funding Cryptsy via his StakeMiners Ponzi? https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/163c677c48a3548e
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https://forms.cftc.gov/_layouts/PublicForms/TipsAndComplaints.aspxalso contact florida police to report this crime if you hav'nt donr this already
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Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.
...


A few months before the supposed hack you also have the opening of MN Contracts. MN was first then MN2 10,000 shares were put up. Only 5,000 were sold at .180. They supposedly used Cloud Hashing. So how did they pay Cloud hashing for 100 Terahash if they only collected 5,000 shares? Bait n Switched into the market too since it opened before 10K. This was the red flag that made me pull my bitcoin from Cryptsy and among other things like Raffling of 200 MN2 shares for 28 bitcoin total of Cryptsy points. This can only add to the overall suspicion that puts the coin in coincidence. These shares could be fake in my opinion and a way to hold people in the markets while they prepare an exit strategy. Initially Cryptsy said they were not allowed to disclose the hash provider. Coincidence??
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Wonder why the new site is called biteb9 instead of biteb8?

https://www.bitebi9.com/

Bitebi9 = Bitebig

https://www.bitebi9.com/pages/about

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What is Bitebi9:

Bitebi9 is a startup focusing on the exchange of Crypto-Currency commonly known as “BitCoin” and it's derivatives. We currently trading over 50 different crypto-currencies directly with the Chinese RMB.

Our Mission:

Provide a safe, simple, and efficient environment for users to trade crypto-currencies with each other.

Withdraw?:

See "Mission" - namely, continue to trade with each other.
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Wonder why the new site is called biteb9 instead of biteb8?
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Just a simple question:

When the money is gone (be it stolen or anything else), isn't Cryptsy's company Project Investors Inc. required to a) report the theft/accident/whatever to FINCEN and b) file for bankruptsy protection, both as soon as they get aware of the mess? If they don't do so, it's fraud, and it's high time that the authorities look into it and get hold of the persons in charge.

So, what are the authorities doing at the moment?


http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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We do, however, fully comply with our Federal MSB requirements.  This includes filing SAR (Suspicous Activity Reports) and CTR (Currency Transaction Reports).  We also have one of the most extensive KYC programs in the industry, scrub accounts against the OFAC list, and perform Transaction Monitoring.   At a federal level, we are compliant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report

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In the United States, FinCEN requires that an SAR be filed by a financial institution when the financial institution suspects insider abuse by an employee; violations of law aggregating over $5,000 where a subject can be identified;[clarification needed] violations of law aggregating over $25,000 regardless of a potential subject; transactions aggregating $5,000 or more that involve potential money laundering or violations of the Bank Secrecy Act; computer intrusion; or when a financial institution knows that a customer is operating as an unlicensed money services business.

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Each SAR must be filed within 30 days of the date of the initial determination for the necessity of filing the report. An extension of 30 days can be obtained if the identity of the person conducting the suspicious activity is not known. At no time, however, should the filing of an SAR be delayed longer than 60 days. The Bank Secrecy Act specifies that each firm must maintain records of its SARs for a period of five years from the date of filing.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.

Paul Vernon: Deposit on Cryptsy, Cryptsy is fun, come right now, don't walk - run!

Paul Vernon: Safe? Darn tootin'! We filing SAR (Suspicous Activity Reports) reports.

Paul Vernon: A year and half ago, over thirteen million dollars worth of cryptocurrencies was stolen from Cryptsy.

Paul Vernon: Why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred? To be Marshall Long et al. honest, we were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.

Paul Vernon: We're reaching out to those of the community we haven't hammer-banned to help us hunt down the person(s) responsible for the event leaning to reduction of my... I mean ours... I mean your funds, offering up a reward of 1000 BTC coming out of mine... I mean ours... I mean our clients' pockets, their moneys on account.

http://www.anti-moneylaundering.com/pdf/Example_Fines_and_Penalties.pdf

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Money transmitter with 7,500 agents. San Fernando, California. Failure to establish and implement an anti-money laundering program. Structuring. Failure to control and supervise agents. Failure to report Suspicious Transactions (SARs). Fine $12,000,000.

$13,000,000 - $12,000,000 =   ?  


"Don't know! Mongo only pawn in game of life.
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Just a simple question:

When the money is gone (be it stolen or anything else), isn't Cryptsy's company Project Investors Inc. required to a) report the theft/accident/whatever to FINCEN and b) file for bankruptsy protection, both as soon as they get aware of the mess? If they don't do so, it's fraud, and it's high time that the authorities look into it and get hold of the persons in charge.

So, what are the authorities doing at the moment?
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Thanks to thunderjet's research providing https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00eba124e5c01e24

Here's 2700 BTC that Paul Vernon has stashed away: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/39oAHDttKScMfdeff4Tj3EYDkBEUPaZ7bm

Here's ~888 BTC more: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/3DzPjM2MYkHtWNHYbUX54z4Bf6bP9dnyVW

~117 BTC: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/3Jm9BmAdDPxrC31Kzofo3UmUeeCQnb7pLb

You know, the more I think about it, the more I believe that Paul Vernon is part of some terrorist organization, hence not relating to SARs about the ~$13M USD breach.
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Bitebi 9 is calling users to deposit BTC,LTC,DASH and DOGE(they say it is a simple process - https://www.bitebi9.com/info/index/6 ), plus offer Alert indicator tools for pro users, speedy withdrawals(+ 1 year) and dedicated support team(with a lot of ready generic emails to assure you that all problems will be solved in the next few years)

Well,it seems our coins is now on Bitebi9 for market opening and paying expenses.

Iam pretty sure that all these suspicious big BTC transfers from old hot wallet(which was closed for ordinary users) was funneling money to start new exchange,especially these one which got to this wallet:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00eba124e5c01e24

This wallet was funneling money to Bitfinex address 3HNSiAq7wFDaPsYDcUxNSRMD78qVcYKicw

Also to be noted first big transaction to this wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00eba124e5c01e24  , came on 4th.Oct - 25 BTC from old hot Cryptsy wallet .That was time (beginning of October) when withdrawals problems start).Now all these looks as elaborate plan of moving business from dying exchange to new one ,carefully covering tracks and evading any responsibility or expenses from exchange crash.

Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.



It is now so clear that Cryptsy exchange was fully complied to Ferengi Rules of Aquisition Angry - http://projectsanctuary.com/the_complete_ferengi_rules_of_acquisition.htm

1.  Once you have their money, never give it back

2.  You can't cheat an honest customer, but it never hurts to try

14.  Anything stolen is pure profit


20.  When the customer is sweating, turn up the heat

23.  Never take the last coin, but be sure to get the rest

24.  Never ask when you can take


26.  The vast majority of the rich in this galaxy did not inherit their wealth; they stole it

37.  You can always buy back a lost reputation

48.  The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife

61.  Never buy what can be stolen

81.  There's nothing more dangerous than an honest businessman


82.  A smart customer is not a good customer

86.  A wife is a luxury, a smart accountant a necessity

87.  Trust is the biggest liability of all

90.  Mine is better than ours

115.  Greed is eternal

125.  A lie isn't a lie until someone else knows the truth

126.  A lie isn't a lie, it's just the truth seen from a different point of view

132.  The flimsier the produce, the higher the price

155.  What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine too

159.  The customer is always right ... until you have their cash

162.  His money is only your's when he can't get it back

164.  Never spend your own money when you can spend someone elses

182.  Whenever you're being asked if you are god, the right answer is YES

191.  Let other keep their reputation. You keep their money

196.  Only give money to people you know you can steal from

209.  Tell them what they want to hear

223.  Rich men don't come to buy; they come to take

237.  There's a sucker born every minute.  Be sure you're the first to find each one

238.  The truth will cost

242.  More is good, all is better

251.  Satisfaction is not guaranteed

252.  Let the buyer beware

268.  a) When in doubt, lie

b) When in doubt, buy

c) When in doubt, demand more money

d) When in doubt, shoot them, take their money, run and blame someone else



283.  Rules are always subject to change

284.  Rules are always subject to interpretation
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I heard in a video the other day the following, echoing your phrase: His cheese fell off his cracker. Wish I could remember which video it was, now guessing that I probably could Google it.

Must have been Wallace and Gromit. "Everybody knows the moon is made of cheese..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qagA4_eVQ
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Leaked audio from the Vernon Mansion.



Lorie Nettles: Paul.

Paul: WHAT?
Lorie: Tell Jim that Ginny called and to not forget the alligator meat before flying back home.
Jim: I can't believe your wife. She stopped us just to tell us that Ginny called?
Paul: Forget her. Cup my balls the way Josh taught Marshall who taught me, then I taught you last night, done a fine job on your first try, I may add.
lol bro alligator meat
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Leaked audio from the Vernon Mansion.



Lorie Nettles: Paul.

Paul: WHAT?



Lorie: Tell Jim that Ginny called and to not forget the alligator meat before flying back home.
Jim: I can't believe your wife. She stopped us just to tell us that Ginny called?
Paul: Forget her. Cup my balls the way Josh taught Marshall who taught me, then I taught you last night, done a fine job on your first try, I may add.

that is too funny
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Leaked audio from the Vernon Mansion.



Lorie Nettles: Paul.

Paul: WHAT?
Lorie: Tell Jim that Ginny called and to not forget the alligator meat before flying back home.
Jim: I can't believe your wife. She stopped us just to tell us that Ginny called?
Paul: Forget her. Cup my balls the way Josh taught Marshall who taught me, then I taught you last night, done a fine job on your first try, I may add.
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im out 12 btc roughly and I think I am small fish to some... think how much they stole..

someone will be after them I am sure


I am sorry to hear you lost out a lot of BTC. But, to be honest, I doubt that anyone will be after them. This is Bitcoin....no one really goes "after" the scammers, except maybe to hold a sign in front of Karpeles asking "where is our money".

Au contraire!

Karpeles is in jail in Tokyo.

SEC has been following Cryptsy at least since they accepted the Prime Scamtroller from Team Paycoin & I have no doubt that many more serious charges are forthcoming.


i know right some people here would have us believe otherwise though. like 12 million is little money . the house all that stuff getting taking divorce or no divorce .what will they say i bought a house with some of the money but my ex wife now owns it. at best she will have to return it . otherwise she will be complicit in the crime . has i,m hearing rumours about cryptsy being involved in the case for what exactly? cryptsy assets is -12 million has i am typing this. guys just accept the criminals are on the run and thats that only the guilty runs before he is even chased 
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