"If you are a Chinese citizen and a customer of Cryptsy that has lost funds due to Paul Vernon's fraud and possible embezzlement, please report it to the Chinese authorities."
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January 30, 2016, 01:27:19 AM
"If you are a Chinese citizen and a customer of Cryptsy that has lost funds due to Paul Vernon's fraud and possible embezzlement, please report it to the Chinese authorities."
January 30, 2016, 01:08:59 AM
It definitely smells like Paul embezzled his customer's deposits. It will only be a matter of time until he answers to law enforcement or a darker element gets their hands on him.
Information for Chinese citizens that wish to report Paul Vernon's crimes to Chinese authorities:
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=22958
Internet-related crimes are covered by a number of regulations in China and are becoming increasingly important as e-commerce develops in China. This article looks at the Chinese regulatory authorities that are in charge of investigating Internet-related crimes.
Reporting Computer Hacking, Fraud and Other Internet-Related Crime
The primary national law enforcement agencies that investigate domestic crime on the Internet include the Ministry of Public Security (MPS) and the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) and Internet Society of China (ISC).
1. Ministry of Public Security (MPS)
The MPS is in charge of acceptance of the following computer and Internet-related crimes:
1) use of the Internet to incite against national security;
2) use of the Internet for cult activities;
3) use of the Internet to fabricate or distort facts, spread rumors, disturbs social order;
4) Internet-based pornographic websites, web pages; provide links to pornographic sites; disseminate pornographic information; or organize a pornographic performances;
5) Internet gambling;
6) use of the Internet for theft, fraud and extortion;
7) use of the Internet to insult or slander others; fabricate facts to slander others;
8.) use of the Internet to steal, alter, delete other’s e-mails or other data; violate civil freedom and privacy of communications;
9) network intrusion and attacks of sabotage;
10) intentional making of or spreading of computer viruses and other destructive programs;
11) interrupting the operation of the network or Internet service violating laws and regulations;
12) deletion, modification, adding of operations to, the data and applications storage, processed or transmitted in information systems, resulting in serious consequences for date users of systems.
Citizens who are aware of the above-mentioned crimes can report them on a special website of the MPS at http://www.cyberpolice.cn, and they have the right to check the results of case investigation. When they ask the MPS about the status of the cases reported by them, the MPS has an obligation to inform them – this is a significant development for China as usually investigations and case management are handled in secret. Once the MPS completes the investigation and takes action, it should inform the complainant. Citizens also can call 110 to report any of the above crimes.
2. Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT)
The MIIT set up an “Internet Inaccurate and Negative Information Reporting and Acceptance Center” in April 2008. This center is mainly in charge of the acceptance of the reporting of malicious software, websites, blogs, bbs or instant messages involving pornography, violence, virus, fraud or slander, and the rubbish emails including illegal information or virus.
Citizens who are aware of the above-mentioned crimes can report them on the website of the Center at http://www.12321.cn or call 12321.
3. Internet Society of China (ISC)
The ISC founded a special China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center (CIIRC) on June 10, 2004. The center consists of four departments, namely the report department, the monitoring department, the public relations department, and the general affairs department, with a total of 41 staff members (as of 30 June 2011).
The key functions of CIIRC include receiving public reports and complaints through the website www.net.china.cn about illegal and harmful information on the Internet within the borders of China; assisting the law enforcement and administrative authorities to handle illegal and harmful information on the Internet; promoting the self-regulatory initiatives in the Internet news and information service industry; developing the public education initiatives regarding Internet laws and online ethics and collaborating with international counterparts and contributing to the efforts of solving problems of common concern regarding the Internet in the international arena.
Reporting Intellectual Property Crimes
The primary national law enforcement agencies that investigate domestic intellectual property crimes include: the State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO), the National Copyright Administration of PRC (NCAC), the State Administration for Industry and Commerce (SAIC), General Administration of Customs (Customs) and Ministry of Public Security (MPS).
1. State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO)
Patent infringement and relevant crimes can be reported to the SIPO or local intellectual property office for administrative enforcement. SIPO provides a streamlined enforcement procedure, similar to the trademark enforcement procedures offered by the State Administration of Industry and Commerce.
2. National Copyright Administration of PRC (NCAC)
Copyright piracy (involving literary works, artistic works, software, movies and sound recordings) can be reported to the NCAC which is the State Council copyright administration department in charge of the national administration of copyright. Citizens can file a reporting on the special reporting site http://www.shdf.gov.cn/cms/html/190/1952/List-1.html. The NCAC has traditionally been extremely busy and understaffed, which has led to it being very particular as to which cases it chooses to enforce. It is hoped that this will change in the near future.
3. State Administration for Industry and Commerce (SAIC)
Online trademark infringement (including counterfeiting activities) should be reported to the SAIC or local AICs, by filing proper written documents and materials, such as an application, certificate of incorporation/good standing, power of attorney, trademark registration certificates, as well as sufficient evidence. If the reporting is accepted by the AIC, they will do on-the-site investigations and carry out raid actions.
4. General Administration of Customs (Customs)
When products involving trademarks, copyright or patent infringement are about to be exported abroad, the facts of the relevant case can be reported to Customs, by providing an application, relevant certificates and evidence proving the existing of the infringing facts. Customs will initiate corresponding protection actions, such as detaining the infringing goods and imposing fines.
5. Ministry of Public Security (MPS)
Besides the above departments, all kinds of intellectual property crimes can also be reported to the MPS or local Public Security Bureaus. The MPS or local Public Security Bureaus will accept such cases if they meet the definitions of a crime under the PRC Criminal Law.
Conclusion
It may come as a surprise to many, that China has developed an extensive number of laws regarding the regulation of Internet activities, and enforcement by a number of different government departments. There is no doubt though that despite these laws, Internet crimes in China are on the rise, as more and more consumers log in and use the Internet for various activities. It is hoped that China will continue to adequately staff the enforcement authorities so that Internet crimes are managed efficiently.
If you are a Chinese citizen and a customer of Cryptsy that has lost funds due to Paul Vernon's fraud and possible embezzlement, please report it to the Chinese authorities.
Information for Chinese citizens that wish to report Paul Vernon's crimes to Chinese authorities:
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=22958
Internet-related crimes are covered by a number of regulations in China and are becoming increasingly important as e-commerce develops in China. This article looks at the Chinese regulatory authorities that are in charge of investigating Internet-related crimes.
Reporting Computer Hacking, Fraud and Other Internet-Related Crime
The primary national law enforcement agencies that investigate domestic crime on the Internet include the Ministry of Public Security (MPS) and the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) and Internet Society of China (ISC).
1. Ministry of Public Security (MPS)
The MPS is in charge of acceptance of the following computer and Internet-related crimes:
1) use of the Internet to incite against national security;
2) use of the Internet for cult activities;
3) use of the Internet to fabricate or distort facts, spread rumors, disturbs social order;
4) Internet-based pornographic websites, web pages; provide links to pornographic sites; disseminate pornographic information; or organize a pornographic performances;
5) Internet gambling;
6) use of the Internet for theft, fraud and extortion;
7) use of the Internet to insult or slander others; fabricate facts to slander others;
8.) use of the Internet to steal, alter, delete other’s e-mails or other data; violate civil freedom and privacy of communications;
9) network intrusion and attacks of sabotage;
10) intentional making of or spreading of computer viruses and other destructive programs;
11) interrupting the operation of the network or Internet service violating laws and regulations;
12) deletion, modification, adding of operations to, the data and applications storage, processed or transmitted in information systems, resulting in serious consequences for date users of systems.
Citizens who are aware of the above-mentioned crimes can report them on a special website of the MPS at http://www.cyberpolice.cn, and they have the right to check the results of case investigation. When they ask the MPS about the status of the cases reported by them, the MPS has an obligation to inform them – this is a significant development for China as usually investigations and case management are handled in secret. Once the MPS completes the investigation and takes action, it should inform the complainant. Citizens also can call 110 to report any of the above crimes.
2. Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT)
The MIIT set up an “Internet Inaccurate and Negative Information Reporting and Acceptance Center” in April 2008. This center is mainly in charge of the acceptance of the reporting of malicious software, websites, blogs, bbs or instant messages involving pornography, violence, virus, fraud or slander, and the rubbish emails including illegal information or virus.
Citizens who are aware of the above-mentioned crimes can report them on the website of the Center at http://www.12321.cn or call 12321.
3. Internet Society of China (ISC)
The ISC founded a special China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center (CIIRC) on June 10, 2004. The center consists of four departments, namely the report department, the monitoring department, the public relations department, and the general affairs department, with a total of 41 staff members (as of 30 June 2011).
The key functions of CIIRC include receiving public reports and complaints through the website www.net.china.cn about illegal and harmful information on the Internet within the borders of China; assisting the law enforcement and administrative authorities to handle illegal and harmful information on the Internet; promoting the self-regulatory initiatives in the Internet news and information service industry; developing the public education initiatives regarding Internet laws and online ethics and collaborating with international counterparts and contributing to the efforts of solving problems of common concern regarding the Internet in the international arena.
Reporting Intellectual Property Crimes
The primary national law enforcement agencies that investigate domestic intellectual property crimes include: the State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO), the National Copyright Administration of PRC (NCAC), the State Administration for Industry and Commerce (SAIC), General Administration of Customs (Customs) and Ministry of Public Security (MPS).
1. State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO)
Patent infringement and relevant crimes can be reported to the SIPO or local intellectual property office for administrative enforcement. SIPO provides a streamlined enforcement procedure, similar to the trademark enforcement procedures offered by the State Administration of Industry and Commerce.
2. National Copyright Administration of PRC (NCAC)
Copyright piracy (involving literary works, artistic works, software, movies and sound recordings) can be reported to the NCAC which is the State Council copyright administration department in charge of the national administration of copyright. Citizens can file a reporting on the special reporting site http://www.shdf.gov.cn/cms/html/190/1952/List-1.html. The NCAC has traditionally been extremely busy and understaffed, which has led to it being very particular as to which cases it chooses to enforce. It is hoped that this will change in the near future.
3. State Administration for Industry and Commerce (SAIC)
Online trademark infringement (including counterfeiting activities) should be reported to the SAIC or local AICs, by filing proper written documents and materials, such as an application, certificate of incorporation/good standing, power of attorney, trademark registration certificates, as well as sufficient evidence. If the reporting is accepted by the AIC, they will do on-the-site investigations and carry out raid actions.
4. General Administration of Customs (Customs)
When products involving trademarks, copyright or patent infringement are about to be exported abroad, the facts of the relevant case can be reported to Customs, by providing an application, relevant certificates and evidence proving the existing of the infringing facts. Customs will initiate corresponding protection actions, such as detaining the infringing goods and imposing fines.
5. Ministry of Public Security (MPS)
Besides the above departments, all kinds of intellectual property crimes can also be reported to the MPS or local Public Security Bureaus. The MPS or local Public Security Bureaus will accept such cases if they meet the definitions of a crime under the PRC Criminal Law.
Conclusion
It may come as a surprise to many, that China has developed an extensive number of laws regarding the regulation of Internet activities, and enforcement by a number of different government departments. There is no doubt though that despite these laws, Internet crimes in China are on the rise, as more and more consumers log in and use the Internet for various activities. It is hoped that China will continue to adequately staff the enforcement authorities so that Internet crimes are managed efficiently.
If you are a Chinese citizen and a customer of Cryptsy that has lost funds due to Paul Vernon's fraud and possible embezzlement, please report it to the Chinese authorities.
January 29, 2016, 09:58:15 PM
I have just checked Cryptsy Wallet status page - https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/status - almost all in red - 95 % wallets are off - they opened non-functional wallets !??
FWIW, Bitcoin's at $427 USD and Paul Vernon's penning tweets that'll be posted later this year (2016).
January 29, 2016, 09:13:08 PM
I have just checked Cryptsy Wallet status page - https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/status - almost all in red - 95 % wallets are off - they opened non-functional wallets !??
January 29, 2016, 08:45:12 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
Did you notice these txs?
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.0081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
$2.16m dollars worth of doge? Jesus...
That's like gox claiming it had no coins left, then fining hundreds of thousands it had "forgotten" about in an old wallet. Vern must have run to China with millions of dollars worth of altcoins. He will probably stay there and live off the money he gets for them. I don't think we will ever get the valuable coins returned.
January 29, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
Did you notice these txs?
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.0081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
Yes,I know for that
If you follow where DASH is going you would notice that from big DASH wallet(which address change with each tx) coins are going to address Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t - Cryptsy hot wallet.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/address.dws?Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t.htm
So if anyone hacked Cryptsy DASH wallet why hacker would refill Cryptsy hot wallet regulary?
Also,about DOGE I have transactions from Cryptsy which came directly from DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi address and this address has direct connection with D6U53KCHDnysVzb4uJWGrfGuaYj42GPfzu and that is address where 9.5B of DOGE moved from DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85 after hack.Second big hot wallet they used was DGYZ9uAyDomp2wcu581LXLjNoxdsdSf21k
They know these wallets were not hacked,because people could easily trace their txs which came direct from wallets formed after 29.July.2014.But they cant explain how these wallets are empty and do not want to reveal balances.That is why we need CSI Miami
but on a more serious note . you have the answer right there. this noobs have moved the coins off the site and refilling the hot wallet not to raise alarm to this crime. GREED look at all this money
cryptsy hq
lets borrow some without consent/permission/illegally, and use it to make money then put it back before anyone sees that the money is gone. and i will employ ghosts to protect the servers and apes to roll and troll around in the chat box. very plan very genius very accelerating straight moon . signed paul sack on my head venom
January 29, 2016, 07:39:18 PM
I'm alright, Jack. You're all stupid. I need you all to know this.
I had a dog like that once..
Is that an extension of this? https://snoopypfeffer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/paypal-money-module/
January 29, 2016, 06:10:26 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
Did you notice these txs?
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.0081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
Yes,I know for that
If you follow where DASH is going you would notice that from big DASH wallet(which address change with each tx) coins are going to address Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t - Cryptsy hot wallet.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/address.dws?Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t.htm
So if anyone hacked Cryptsy DASH wallet why hacker would refill Cryptsy hot wallet regulary?
Also,about DOGE I have transactions from Cryptsy which came directly from DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi address and this address has direct connection with D6U53KCHDnysVzb4uJWGrfGuaYj42GPfzu and that is address where 9.5B of DOGE moved from DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85 after hack.Second big hot wallet they used was DGYZ9uAyDomp2wcu581LXLjNoxdsdSf21k
They know these wallets were not hacked,because people could easily trace their txs which came direct from wallets formed after 29.July.2014.But they cant explain how these wallets are empty and do not want to reveal balances.That is why we need CSI Miami
That is why we need SARs to investigation to make sure that Paul Vernon isn't funding terrorist since his failure in contacting them within 60 days of the ~$13M USD reduction of funds during the event.
January 29, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
Did you notice these txs?
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.0081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
Yes,I know for that
If you follow where DASH is going you would notice that from big DASH wallet(which address change with each tx) coins are going to address Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t - Cryptsy hot wallet.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/address.dws?Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t.htm
So if anyone hacked Cryptsy DASH wallet why hacker would refill Cryptsy hot wallet regulary?
Also,about DOGE I have transactions from Cryptsy which came directly from DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi address and this address has direct connection with D6U53KCHDnysVzb4uJWGrfGuaYj42GPfzu and that is address where 9.5B of DOGE moved from DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85 after hack.Second big hot wallet they used was DGYZ9uAyDomp2wcu581LXLjNoxdsdSf21k
They know these wallets were not hacked,because people could easily trace their txs which came direct from wallets formed after 29.July.2014.But they cant explain how these wallets are empty and do not want to reveal balances.That is why we need CSI Miami
January 29, 2016, 04:56:03 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
Did you notice these txs?
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.0081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
$2.16m dollars worth of doge? Jesus...
January 29, 2016, 04:54:20 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
Did you notice these txs?
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.0081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
January 29, 2016, 04:33:10 PM
Problem is that Cryptsy "opened" some wallets,but did not reveal total balances of coins.They cant explain why there are no coins in DASH or DOGE wallet if they were not hacked - they probably converted them to BTC and spent to cover exchange expenses.Because all of these shady things,criminal investigation is necessary.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
I investigated blockchain for DASH and DOGE and could not find firm evidences about hack
I found DOGE Cryptsy hot wallet address DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi with 120 millions of DOGE still in it.
January 29, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
An indirect link was posted and subsequently buried several pages back to the Attorney General. There is a very simple and convenient online form to fill in to lay a complaint. Everyone needs to do that, flood her office to the point it cannot be ignored. Waffling about Class Actions will take too much time.
Fill in the form with all your details and send it off for the quickest action, it is provided specifically to fight fraud:
http://www.myfloridalegal.com/Contact.nsf/Contact?OpenForm&Section=Consumer_Protection_Division
Fill in the form with all your details and send it off for the quickest action, it is provided specifically to fight fraud:
http://www.myfloridalegal.com/Contact.nsf/Contact?OpenForm&Section=Consumer_Protection_Division
January 29, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
No mal intent here :stop bitching.
Gather evidence.
DESKTOP RECORD ALL YOUR CRYPTSY USER PAGES, ALL YOUR BALANCES.
Desktop record all your conversations with Cryptsy.com that prove they were eating shit about any type of blockchain/wallet issue in the last 6 months, witholding your property and abusing trust
I am speaking outside the issue of BTC and LTC which they will have the ability to defend against in court by transffering blame on the supposed thieves. It is not certain that their defense will hold, but we must strike where they cannot exact any defense whatsoever
Of course everything they have done is illegal. It is YOUR PROPERTY. Heads up, patience, detective work and in the end a well made class action.
You must not give up. We will go hard against them, in all spaces, civil and penal.
They got the BTC and LTC. Small chance of recovering that, however they cannot defend embezzeling, witholding and basically stealing the property of their users, which they cannot any longer falsely prove that it has been stolen by someone else. On top of that, once they will lose this action, the people who lost BTC and LTC will be able to use the decision against them and the evidence there to call for dauna. They will point to the thieves, but they will also have precedent of fraud in the altcoins case.
I have longely conversed with them and while i've written entire pages pointing to all their illegal activities all i've received in return were links to their blog. I know the e-mails will have weight, i know the videos will have alot of weight and i know any digital evidence will have alot of weight against them, if the people recording it will be brought as participants in the lawsuit.
They will try to use lawyer gimmicks and they will buy for time as long as they can but in the end, if they do not lose one they will lose another.
Now know this : The first thing we need to do is get together. Use any means to do so. Obtain contact with as many participants as possible, ideally in the number of thousands.
I am willing to put my money into this, be it only 1 BTC, but i expect amongst those thousands we can raise at least a few hundred BTC to pay a good, internet-insightful lawfirm to handle this affair.
If there are any U.S lawyers amongst you, do say so, even if you only lost altcoins in the range of 0.1 BTC, you will get paid alot more than that.
Very important : If you are able, create a short video showing the transactions from Cryptsy.com of the DASH and DOGE and any other coin made in this period, showing in short but undeniable detail that they were moved from the Cryptsy wallet to an active exchange. This is gold in my humble opinion and i truly believe we can get this asshole for everything he has, in spite of whatever guarantees he obtained from whoever he did. All his actions show that he is extremely stupid. Do not falter in the front of such stupidity. Patience, unity and some work and Godwilling we will get this guy for everything he owns, and more.
+100% i like your attitude on the matter Gather evidence.
DESKTOP RECORD ALL YOUR CRYPTSY USER PAGES, ALL YOUR BALANCES.
Desktop record all your conversations with Cryptsy.com that prove they were eating shit about any type of blockchain/wallet issue in the last 6 months, witholding your property and abusing trust
I am speaking outside the issue of BTC and LTC which they will have the ability to defend against in court by transffering blame on the supposed thieves. It is not certain that their defense will hold, but we must strike where they cannot exact any defense whatsoever
Of course everything they have done is illegal. It is YOUR PROPERTY. Heads up, patience, detective work and in the end a well made class action.
You must not give up. We will go hard against them, in all spaces, civil and penal.
They got the BTC and LTC. Small chance of recovering that, however they cannot defend embezzeling, witholding and basically stealing the property of their users, which they cannot any longer falsely prove that it has been stolen by someone else. On top of that, once they will lose this action, the people who lost BTC and LTC will be able to use the decision against them and the evidence there to call for dauna. They will point to the thieves, but they will also have precedent of fraud in the altcoins case.
I have longely conversed with them and while i've written entire pages pointing to all their illegal activities all i've received in return were links to their blog. I know the e-mails will have weight, i know the videos will have alot of weight and i know any digital evidence will have alot of weight against them, if the people recording it will be brought as participants in the lawsuit.
They will try to use lawyer gimmicks and they will buy for time as long as they can but in the end, if they do not lose one they will lose another.
Now know this : The first thing we need to do is get together. Use any means to do so. Obtain contact with as many participants as possible, ideally in the number of thousands.
I am willing to put my money into this, be it only 1 BTC, but i expect amongst those thousands we can raise at least a few hundred BTC to pay a good, internet-insightful lawfirm to handle this affair.
If there are any U.S lawyers amongst you, do say so, even if you only lost altcoins in the range of 0.1 BTC, you will get paid alot more than that.
Very important : If you are able, create a short video showing the transactions from Cryptsy.com of the DASH and DOGE and any other coin made in this period, showing in short but undeniable detail that they were moved from the Cryptsy wallet to an active exchange. This is gold in my humble opinion and i truly believe we can get this asshole for everything he has, in spite of whatever guarantees he obtained from whoever he did. All his actions show that he is extremely stupid. Do not falter in the front of such stupidity. Patience, unity and some work and Godwilling we will get this guy for everything he owns, and more.
January 29, 2016, 02:59:02 PM
I'm not your attorney, but it could be prudent, to hire an attorney in Florida and seek injunctive relief to essentially 'lock' cryptsy down pending an investigation. Your issue more likely than not is dealing with the fact that you signed an arbitration clause. However, now you've got fraud involved and attorneys cost money :/
in the alternative, if you know anyone who is in the class action and a member of the class, it could be beneficial to see if any similar relief has been requested. the fact that their are also personal and possibly business bankruptcy proceedings all going on at the same time makes it a nice mess... which is great, if he's in china lol
in the alternative, if you know anyone who is in the class action and a member of the class, it could be beneficial to see if any similar relief has been requested. the fact that their are also personal and possibly business bankruptcy proceedings all going on at the same time makes it a nice mess... which is great, if he's in china lol
That would require the servers to be in Florida. I don't believe that's the case.
Cryptsy's data center is in Miami it would take Mullick or Paul about an hour or 2 to get there.
January 29, 2016, 02:50:20 PM
I'm not your attorney, but it could be prudent, to hire an attorney in Florida and seek injunctive relief to essentially 'lock' cryptsy down pending an investigation. Your issue more likely than not is dealing with the fact that you signed an arbitration clause. However, now you've got fraud involved and attorneys cost money :/
in the alternative, if you know anyone who is in the class action and a member of the class, it could be beneficial to see if any similar relief has been requested. the fact that their are also personal and possibly business bankruptcy proceedings all going on at the same time makes it a nice mess... which is great, if he's in china lol
in the alternative, if you know anyone who is in the class action and a member of the class, it could be beneficial to see if any similar relief has been requested. the fact that their are also personal and possibly business bankruptcy proceedings all going on at the same time makes it a nice mess... which is great, if he's in china lol
That would require the servers to be in Florida. I don't believe that's the case.
January 29, 2016, 02:47:42 PM
I'm not your attorney, but it could be prudent, to hire an attorney in Florida and seek injunctive relief to essentially 'lock' cryptsy down pending an investigation. Your issue more likely than not is dealing with the fact that you signed an arbitration clause. However, now you've got fraud involved and attorneys cost money :/
in the alternative, if you know anyone who is in the class action and a member of the class, it could be beneficial to see if any similar relief has been requested. the fact that their are also personal and possibly business bankruptcy proceedings all going on at the same time makes it a nice mess... which is great, if he's in china lol
in the alternative, if you know anyone who is in the class action and a member of the class, it could be beneficial to see if any similar relief has been requested. the fact that their are also personal and possibly business bankruptcy proceedings all going on at the same time makes it a nice mess... which is great, if he's in china lol
January 29, 2016, 12:54:08 PM
Class action only benefits lawyers. Plus they only work against deep pockets.
If its gone class action won't help.
If its not gone class action bankrupts the plaintiff.
Sorry fellas, SOL
If its gone class action won't help.
If its not gone class action bankrupts the plaintiff.
Sorry fellas, SOL
We are looking for a criminal conviction and liquidation of all his physical assets. We are not going only against Cryptsy.com but against the man behind the company. The man is moving our property in front of our eyes and lying on his blog, in support tickets and on Cryptsy webpage about it. There are tens of people with solid evidence and testimony against them.
When this begins, it must do so following an immaculate course.
Before this commences,however, alot of noise must be made, in order for the evidence to reach the public's eye, via YouTube, Facebook and other accessible media channels. This will solidify a position when state attorney's become involved. We must have made everything known fact by then.
Much tactic is needed.
If 100 of us put 0.1 BTC we have 4000 dollars. That's 4400 with my 1BTC. Remember the 4400 ?
I will think of a way to create a public pool for this fight. No mining involved, just legal consulting and the actual fees of the carefully chosen legal representatives.
It should be hosted by someone old and greatly trusted within the community. Awaiting suggestions on this matter.
Roland Ionescu, Romania
January 29, 2016, 11:11:10 AM
Class action only benefits lawyers. Plus they only work against deep pockets.
If its gone class action won't help.
If its not gone class action bankrupts the plaintiff.
Sorry fellas, SOL
If its gone class action won't help.
If its not gone class action bankrupts the plaintiff.
Sorry fellas, SOL
Don't you have your own scam to troll about? Although I can see how a person of your intelligence can confuse scrypt.cc with Cryptsy, similar names and all.
January 29, 2016, 11:05:18 AM
No mal intent here :stop bitching.
Gather evidence.
DESKTOP RECORD ALL YOUR CRYPTSY USER PAGES, ALL YOUR BALANCES.
Desktop record all your conversations with Cryptsy.com that prove they were eating shit about any type of blockchain/wallet issue in the last 6 months, witholding your property and abusing trust
I am speaking outside the issue of BTC and LTC which they will have the ability to defend against in court by transffering blame on the supposed thieves. It is not certain that their defense will hold, but we must strike where they cannot exact any defense whatsoever
Of course everything they have done is illegal. It is YOUR PROPERTY. Heads up, patience, detective work and in the end a well made class action.
You must not give up. We will go hard against them, in all spaces, civil and penal.
They got the BTC and LTC. Small chance of recovering that, however they cannot defend embezzeling, witholding and basically stealing the property of their users, which they cannot any longer falsely prove that it has been stolen by someone else. On top of that, once they will lose this action, the people who lost BTC and LTC will be able to use the decision against them and the evidence there to call for dauna. They will point to the thieves, but they will also have precedent of fraud in the altcoins case.
I have longely conversed with them and while i've written entire pages pointing to all their illegal activities all i've received in return were links to their blog. I know the e-mails will have weight, i know the videos will have alot of weight and i know any digital evidence will have alot of weight against them, if the people recording it will be brought as participants in the lawsuit.
They will try to use lawyer gimmicks and they will buy for time as long as they can but in the end, if they do not lose one they will lose another.
Now know this : The first thing we need to do is get together. Use any means to do so. Obtain contact with as many participants as possible, ideally in the number of thousands.
I am willing to put my money into this, be it only 1 BTC, but i expect amongst those thousands we can raise at least a few hundred BTC to pay a good, internet-insightful lawfirm to handle this affair.
If there are any U.S lawyers amongst you, do say so, even if you only lost altcoins in the range of 0.1 BTC, you will get paid alot more than that.
Very important : If you are able, create a short video showing the transactions from Cryptsy.com of the DASH and DOGE and any other coin made in this period, showing in short but undeniable detail that they were moved from the Cryptsy wallet to an active exchange. This is gold in my humble opinion and i truly believe we can get this asshole for everything he has, in spite of whatever guarantees he obtained from whoever he did. All his actions show that he is extremely stupid. Do not falter in the front of such stupidity. Patience, unity and some work and Godwilling we will get this guy for everything he owns, and more.
Gather evidence.
DESKTOP RECORD ALL YOUR CRYPTSY USER PAGES, ALL YOUR BALANCES.
Desktop record all your conversations with Cryptsy.com that prove they were eating shit about any type of blockchain/wallet issue in the last 6 months, witholding your property and abusing trust
I am speaking outside the issue of BTC and LTC which they will have the ability to defend against in court by transffering blame on the supposed thieves. It is not certain that their defense will hold, but we must strike where they cannot exact any defense whatsoever
Of course everything they have done is illegal. It is YOUR PROPERTY. Heads up, patience, detective work and in the end a well made class action.
You must not give up. We will go hard against them, in all spaces, civil and penal.
They got the BTC and LTC. Small chance of recovering that, however they cannot defend embezzeling, witholding and basically stealing the property of their users, which they cannot any longer falsely prove that it has been stolen by someone else. On top of that, once they will lose this action, the people who lost BTC and LTC will be able to use the decision against them and the evidence there to call for dauna. They will point to the thieves, but they will also have precedent of fraud in the altcoins case.
I have longely conversed with them and while i've written entire pages pointing to all their illegal activities all i've received in return were links to their blog. I know the e-mails will have weight, i know the videos will have alot of weight and i know any digital evidence will have alot of weight against them, if the people recording it will be brought as participants in the lawsuit.
They will try to use lawyer gimmicks and they will buy for time as long as they can but in the end, if they do not lose one they will lose another.
Now know this : The first thing we need to do is get together. Use any means to do so. Obtain contact with as many participants as possible, ideally in the number of thousands.
I am willing to put my money into this, be it only 1 BTC, but i expect amongst those thousands we can raise at least a few hundred BTC to pay a good, internet-insightful lawfirm to handle this affair.
If there are any U.S lawyers amongst you, do say so, even if you only lost altcoins in the range of 0.1 BTC, you will get paid alot more than that.
Very important : If you are able, create a short video showing the transactions from Cryptsy.com of the DASH and DOGE and any other coin made in this period, showing in short but undeniable detail that they were moved from the Cryptsy wallet to an active exchange. This is gold in my humble opinion and i truly believe we can get this asshole for everything he has, in spite of whatever guarantees he obtained from whoever he did. All his actions show that he is extremely stupid. Do not falter in the front of such stupidity. Patience, unity and some work and Godwilling we will get this guy for everything he owns, and more.
Im prepared to put some money in just to see these ass holes go down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48JNlRIERw
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