Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 43. (Read 1006931 times)
September 17, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
For pennies on the BTC, no thanks.
September 17, 2017, 12:03:40 AM
Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
I would NEVER fill out that form.
I don't think anyone wants to. But from the wording of the email filling it out is a must. So either receive nothing or allow the US govt to put their sticky fingers on a percentage of it, whatever that may be.
September 16, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
I would NEVER fill out that form.
September 16, 2017, 01:19:54 PM
Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
We're dealing with Lawyers acting within the Law. Who knows if the IRS will take a chunk of our little settlements.
On a positive note, Perhaps there are some Large Legitimate Claimants who drop out of the Settlement Pool as they don't want the IRS on their ass.
The Fewer the Claimants, the Bigger the Pool.
September 16, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
I also wonder if the claims that are being denied will add to the pool of monies the lawyers get to take... Just thinking out loud here...
No...The Lawyers get 30% Max. They even reduced some fees to Maintain that.
September 16, 2017, 01:11:16 PM
I also wonder if the claims that are being denied will add to the pool of monies the lawyers get to take... Just thinking out loud here...
September 16, 2017, 01:08:02 PM
Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
September 16, 2017, 10:13:23 AM
My Claim form has been accepted too.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.
Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?
On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be? Reference number for what??
I had to get the W 8BEN Instructions as well : https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-8ben-certificate-of-foreign-status-of-beneficial-owner-for-united-states-tax-withholding
Great, thanks TommyD!
Edit: so basically I understand that #7 can be left blank and is only used if you have some special situation and need to link to another document.
You're welcome. I only read it quickly so far and #7 can be left Blank
September 16, 2017, 10:03:30 AM
My Claim form has been accepted too.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.
Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?
On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be? Reference number for what??
I had to get the W 8BEN Instructions as well : https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-8ben-certificate-of-foreign-status-of-beneficial-owner-for-united-states-tax-withholding
Great, thanks TommyD!
Edit: so basically I understand that #7 can be left blank and is only used if you have some special situation and need to link to another document.
September 16, 2017, 09:12:31 AM
My Claim form has been accepted too.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.
Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?
On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be? Reference number for what??
I had to get the W 8BEN Instructions as well : https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-8ben-certificate-of-foreign-status-of-beneficial-owner-for-united-states-tax-withholding
September 16, 2017, 04:53:01 AM
My Claim form has been accepted too.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.
Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?
On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be? Reference number for what??
September 16, 2017, 02:23:36 AM
Hello.. I didn't received confirmation email for my claim form.. I wonder why still not received? I submitted screen shoot of my balance and few transactions
September 16, 2017, 02:01:28 AM
My Claim form has been accepted too.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
Non US resident.
I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.
I had 7.6 btc over there.
4Power.
September 15, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
Confirmation
September 15, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
Who else beside Tommy got accepted? I don't get it I am the ONLY person here who actually took a video with my phone of my account (over 2 minutes of content!)+ the screen shots + the emails and I got rejected.
"Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period."
"You also have the right to a review by the Court. Please indicate in your submission if you are requesting a review by the Court."
How can I get the Court to review my papers and evidence instead? Do I have to be in the US?
"Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period."
"You also have the right to a review by the Court. Please indicate in your submission if you are requesting a review by the Court."
How can I get the Court to review my papers and evidence instead? Do I have to be in the US?
All I can think of is that everyone in the know (including Silver Law), knew people could get "out" of Cryptsy at a huge premium through some coins.
Where your screenshots from January 2016?
If not, maybe that's why you were denied?
The answer to your question may be here: http://www.cryptsysettlement.com/
September 15, 2017, 06:25:48 PM
Who else beside Tommy got accepted? I don't get it I am the ONLY person here who actually took a video with my phone of my account (over 2 minutes of content!)+ the screen shots + the emails and I got rejected.
"Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period."
"Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period."
Sounds like you did more than your Due Diligence to me.
Get ready for another huge scam-a-thon, everyone.
September 15, 2017, 06:07:28 PM
Who else beside Tommy got accepted? I don't get it I am the ONLY person here who actually took a video with my phone of my account (over 2 minutes of content!)+ the screen shots + the emails and I got rejected.
"Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period."
"You also have the right to a review by the Court. Please indicate in your submission if you are requesting a review by the Court."
How can I get the Court to review my papers and evidence instead? Do I have to be in the US?
"Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period."
"You also have the right to a review by the Court. Please indicate in your submission if you are requesting a review by the Court."
How can I get the Court to review my papers and evidence instead? Do I have to be in the US?
September 15, 2017, 01:53:05 PM
I just received Cryptsy Settlement – Deficiency Notice.
I'm surprised as I submitted all available documentation.
Anyone with BTC claim been accepted?
What did you provide as documentation for your claim?
How did you document the BTC account balance?
All I had to work on was my "Confirm Your Withdrawal" emails from Cryptsy, which provide withdrawal amount and address. I assumed that with this mail containing the unique confirmation URI they would have proof of withdrawal attempt, that ultimately failed, as we all know.
My Cryptsy BTC account balance I have no idea how to document.
I'm surprised as I submitted all available documentation.
Anyone with BTC claim been accepted?
What did you provide as documentation for your claim?
How did you document the BTC account balance?
All I had to work on was my "Confirm Your Withdrawal" emails from Cryptsy, which provide withdrawal amount and address. I assumed that with this mail containing the unique confirmation URI they would have proof of withdrawal attempt, that ultimately failed, as we all know.
My Cryptsy BTC account balance I have no idea how to document.
Does the Notice you received allow you to further substantiate your claim or was it an outright rejection?
I'm allowed to contest the rejection, but what additional documentation can I provide? They have the BTC withdrawal amount and the receiving BTC address which they will see never received this amount. Thus I have lost that amount which I claim.
That's too bad if you have nothing else in the way of Supporting Documentation.
I received my "CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT DETERMINATION OF RECOGNIZED CLAIM" e-mail a few hours ago.
I previously submitted screenshots of my Cryptsy account, a spreadsheet of every trade I did on Cryptsy, e-mails, all the info and pics I used for my level 2 etc.
Now all I have to do is read up on filing the IRS Form
The annoying thing is that I hadn't used Cryptsy for a very long time - so long that I had to unlock it. I should have taken it as an omen, but convenience over opening a new account with some inferior UI made me push on.
Submitting a screenshot of account is of course great when you have access to the account, but for those who realised the danger after the site went down have no such opportunity.
A spreadsheet is most definitely a must, but I didn't have it in time to include Cryptsy.
The e-mails - do you mean all of them - like "Confirmation of Registration", "Ticket Received", "Successful Authentication", "Confirm you withdrawal" ? How do they prove wallets/balances?
What do you mean by "info and pics I used for my level 2 etc"? Do you mean two-factor authentication details?
Is there any way to find the origin address of a transaction at all? I have the last incoming transaction from Cryptsy, but as I never deposited BTC to Cryptsy I don't know a way to find my Cryptsy wallet address.
I credit fellow users here on bitcointalk for motivating me to take screenshots back in January 2016 and prior. It was all the talk at the time.
I had always kept a spreadsheet for fun and to total trades, that went through with multiple buys or sells.
The level 2 I referred to is not 2FA. It means I was a registered user (not anonymous).
September 15, 2017, 01:39:43 PM
I just received Cryptsy Settlement – Deficiency Notice.
I'm surprised as I submitted all available documentation.
Anyone with BTC claim been accepted?
What did you provide as documentation for your claim?
How did you document the BTC account balance?
All I had to work on was my "Confirm Your Withdrawal" emails from Cryptsy, which provide withdrawal amount and address. I assumed that with this mail containing the unique confirmation URI they would have proof of withdrawal attempt, that ultimately failed, as we all know.
My Cryptsy BTC account balance I have no idea how to document.
I'm surprised as I submitted all available documentation.
Anyone with BTC claim been accepted?
What did you provide as documentation for your claim?
How did you document the BTC account balance?
All I had to work on was my "Confirm Your Withdrawal" emails from Cryptsy, which provide withdrawal amount and address. I assumed that with this mail containing the unique confirmation URI they would have proof of withdrawal attempt, that ultimately failed, as we all know.
My Cryptsy BTC account balance I have no idea how to document.
Does the Notice you received allow you to further substantiate your claim or was it an outright rejection?
I'm allowed to contest the rejection, but what additional documentation can I provide? They have the BTC withdrawal amount and the receiving BTC address which they will see never received this amount. Thus I have lost that amount which I claim.
That's too bad if you have nothing else in the way of Supporting Documentation.
I received my "CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT DETERMINATION OF RECOGNIZED CLAIM" e-mail a few hours ago.
I previously submitted screenshots of my Cryptsy account, a spreadsheet of every trade I did on Cryptsy, e-mails, all the info and pics I used for my level 2 etc.
Now all I have to do is read up on filing the IRS Form
The annoying thing is that I hadn't used Cryptsy for a very long time - so long that I had to unlock it. I should have taken it as an omen, but convenience over opening a new account with some inferior UI made me push on.
Submitting a screenshot of account is of course great when you have access to the account, but for those who realised the danger after the site went down have no such opportunity.
A spreadsheet is most definitely a must, but I didn't have it in time to include Cryptsy.
The e-mails - do you mean all of them - like "Confirmation of Registration", "Ticket Received", "Successful Authentication", "Confirm you withdrawal" ? How do they prove wallets/balances?
What do you mean by "info and pics I used for my level 2 etc"? Do you mean two-factor authentication details?
Is there any way to find the origin address of a transaction at all? I have the last incoming transaction from Cryptsy, but as I never deposited BTC to Cryptsy I don't know a way to find my Cryptsy wallet address.
September 15, 2017, 01:32:07 PM
CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT
CLAIM DEFICIENCY LETTER
You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv-80060-KAM (the “Lawsuit”). Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period. As a result, you do not have a Recognized Claim and will not receive a payment pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.
CLAIM DEFICIENCY LETTER
You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv-80060-KAM (the “Lawsuit”). Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period. As a result, you do not have a Recognized Claim and will not receive a payment pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.
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