Hi,
I'm really interested in this project, is there any updates on this? Website, telegram, slack?
Thanks
Topic: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency (Read 1246 times)
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)
There are people accused of rebellion without any kind of violence. Multitudinary concentrations of peacefully people are considered as the beginning of the crime.
Doesn't sound like a free society. When I think of Spain I think of a country like the US, or England. But it's nice to know. I'm sure it is in every other way.
And in certain way it isn't. If you are agree with central administration politics, there is no problem. The problem comes when a majority of a region wants to decide their own future as a society. Even the referendum wasn't a crime, spanish law doesn't forbid it. Rule of law is partially broken in Spain.
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)
There are people accused of rebellion without any kind of violence. Multitudinary concentrations of peacefully people are considered as the beginning of the crime.
Doesn't sound like a free society. When I think of Spain I think of a country like the US, or England. But it's nice to know. I'm sure it is in every other way.
So the foundatio is already develping the apps before crowdfunding?
How many days for windows wallet?
if you are really want to participate just install oracle virtual box and download ubuntu image
the issue you will not be able to mine until someone setup a public pool, and for me it is quite strange that devs are not providing it.
Due the number of requests we will prioritize windows's builds, hope that tomorrow them will be uploaded, note that gui wallet won't be available at the same time as cmd binaries but is also intended to bring to you soon.
Of course who wants can mine without a pool, by now hr is low and you can mine without pool, doing it directly with daemon or included miner, there are also some miners that ara capable of solo mining.
Once the chain is launched all requests will be read and processed.
Important to mention that there are a beta pool in test stage. Foundation will launch the support pool as fast as possible.
To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.
so - where do I lie? I said you originally promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night, did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to everyone start at the same time.
This is not the same as
1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?
Ok, is obvious, and symbolic, block 1 is mined by devs. While source and binary are being uploaded we start our seed nodes.
again - promised at 16:28, but provided sources after midnight - is there is a single word not true?
And this leads to the fact that most of the night only dev team was able to mine, as the rest was already sleeping without an update.
Not after midnight, sources was available just after genesis tx was included. I was referencing the fair launch, not the delay of the launch.
Note that most of us have a different timezone and I speacilly work when the moon is up.
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)
There are people accused of rebellion without any kind of violence. Multitudinary concentrations of peacefully people are considered as the beginning of the crime.
To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.
so - where do I lie? I said you originally promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night, did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to everyone start at the same time.
This is not the same as
1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?
Ok, is obvious, and symbolic, block 1 is mined by devs. While source and binary are being uploaded we start our seed nodes.
again - promised at 16:28, but provided sources after midnight - is there is a single word not true?
And this leads to the fact that most of the night only dev team was able to mine, as the rest was already sleeping without an update.
To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.
so - where do I lie? I said you originally promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night, did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to everyone start at the same time.
This is not the same as
1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?
Ok, is obvious, and symbolic, block 1 is mined by devs. While source and binary are being uploaded we start our seed nodes.
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)
How many days for windows wallet?
if you are really want to participate just install oracle virtual box and download ubuntu image
the issue you will not be able to mine until someone setup a public pool, and for me it is quite strange that devs are not providing it.
I don't understand why would Spanish government want to do something bad about cryptocurrency developer, even when they name there coin Catalonia Coin. We already have Navajo coin, and US government don't care about it.
What we are doing is completely legal and allowed by spanish law, but due recently scenarios where some people was reported to the courts and some of them jailed preventively when the only thing that they done was organizing a referendum or cloning websites with information about it, we decided don't announce who we are at the moment, but not being anonymous, to avoid undesired circumstances.
I also recommend read about sept-oct-nov 2017 Catalonia referendum, Spain.
Due a mistake with caton's config parameters, we must announce that the launched chain on 21/12 isn't valid, adopters can continue running their nodes but we will support the new chain with 14M of total supply only. Those who mined some catons on the broken chain, before height 593, will be credited proportionally with some catons in new chain (not all mined units) be sure to keep a copy of daemon folder (renamed, in order to run new chain), do not delete your wallet files to perform the mined accreditation (do not use in new blockchain).
Stay tuned, new launch will be soon.
Current state: Announce datetime for launch (CONFIRMED genesis print UTC 21:14 22/12/2017).
Next state: Genesis build + Upload Source code & linux binaries 64bits
||||||||| CATON |||||||||
Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Catalonian based - Private - Fair
Catalonian based - Private - Fair
Initially made with a bare cryptonote fork, Caton aims to be used in Catalonia but not limited to.
With ecology in mind developers team are implementing a diff target limit that will decrease the block reward proportionally when the difficulty is bigger than the target diff. Target Diff is updated with a fork every winter solstice, having in mind the current hardware hashrate and its power consumption. Initial limit will be the diff equivalent to 2.1GH/s
At the moment developers aren't being announced due the possible Spanish state repression. Depending on the government response developers will be revealed. (Check 1st October 2017 catalonian referendum news to know what happened to people who want to vote. Government seized domains, reported to the courts people who organized a referendum and jailed preventively who defended the independence peacefully, catalonian government was dissolved by the prime minister Mariano Rajoy).
Launch date:
Specs:
POW: Cryptonight
block target time: 180s
Total supply: 14.000.000 CTN
Fair launch
High diff block reward penalty
(Visit cryptonote.org to know more about cryptonote technology)
Source code and binaries:
Linux x86 binaries: Next days
Windows binaries: Next days
Twitter: @catonfoundation
Hello!
How many days for windows wallet?
have Airdrop our bountie?
Best regards!
To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.
so - where do I lie? I said you originally promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night, did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to everyone start at the same time.
Isn't country coins passe'? We had Auroracoin for Iceland, mazacoin for the Navajo nation in the USA, Spaincoin, Asiacoin, etc. I don't think country coins will ever work unless the government is the one minting the coins.
Is based on and intended to be used in Catalonia but not limited to. We don't want any central administration managing our coin, only and fully p2p.
I don't understand why would Spanish government want to do something bad about cryptocurrency developer, even when they name there coin Catalonia Coin. We already have Navajo coin, and US government don't care about it.
Isn't country coins passe'? We had Auroracoin for Iceland, mazacoin for the Navajo nation in the USA, Spaincoin, Asiacoin, etc. I don't think country coins will ever work unless the government is the one minting the coins.
Other affirmations are simply a lie.
tell me at least one which is a lie?
and it is true, I do not show respect to you, because respect needs to be deserved, and you've failed.
I spend few hours mining this shitty coin, before I fully understood how bad dev team is.
you say you were focused on launching on 21. But why? Good devs first prepare for launch, than do good announce and launch. Bad devs telling tales about ISP problems. and finally - where you spent the time? You didn't developed anything, just fork, change few lines, that's it. You can release 10 coins per day like that
To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.
make sure u release gui wallet....
they promised Linux binary ) Performing last tests on binaries and listing dependencies. In few minutes will be available on our github.
Source code is already available to be built.
Other affirmations are simply a lie.
tell me at least one which is a lie?
and it is true, I do not show respect to you, because respect needs to be deserved, and you've failed.
I spend few hours mining this shitty coin, before I fully understood how bad dev team is.
you say you were focused on launching on 21. But why? Good devs first prepare for launch, than do good announce and launch. Bad devs telling tales about ISP problems. and finally - where you spent the time? You didn't developed anything, just fork, change few lines, that's it. You can release 10 coins per day like that
First of all, this is not a competition with croat in any way.
We will start requesting exchange inclusion when we have an enough network strength and coin popularity.
Of course gui wallet is in our list of TODOS but there are with more preference.
how do you explain that info you provide about your coin so wrong?
1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?
2. Coin should have 14 кк total supply. 10 times more will be in fact reached tomorrow or next day.
3. Just estimate cost of your currency, with a price 1 sat = 1CTN. By the time generated around 50-60 kk CTN. Do you really believe you (and miners, even me) earned 0.5-0.6 BTC since midnight? That's ridiculous. Just in case you believe - provide me my part of 1000 000 sat for an exchange to 1 000 000 CTN. Please note - that such amount will be generated every day. Means no way it could be traded on btc market, simply NEVER. only DOGE, that's if coin ever reached exchange, which I personally doubt.
4. The code simply came untested. Otherwise I can't imagine how did you missed calculation of maximum supply.
5. what this coins has innovative comparing to 2 year old code? Change of the coin name and change of the CRYPTONOTE_NETWORK constant?
6. just think about all above, and stop your nodes, as this is a parody to good cryptocoin.
7. Say sorry to bitcointalk community.
P.S. original post even does not have any info about mining setup - ports, solo mining configs, etc. No pool were provided. Means the only chance to mine it from start - you are already half professional in crypto, otherwise you can not participate. Or I miss something and Catalonian people setup cryptonight pool on linux just like prepare paella ?
P.P.S You are so lazy, so still did not changed maximum supply in the first message, although 14kk coins were generated before sunrise
Sorry, from now, you will be treated as a troll because you are not respecting us. You can read again and some questions will be answered. Max supply will be 14.000.000. Other affirmations are simply a lie. We are to lazy to demonstrate anything to you in particular.
Till you respect us as a team we won't answer any comment you do.
Again thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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