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Quote from: rdbase on April 23, 2021, 02:37:44 PM

I don't know why anyone would reference something close to reliable when it comes to that website.
You know that user was perma-banned from using alt accounts and shitposting on the forums for several sites using this license.
I am suspecting this is the same account registering on the site so to put forward so to continue their agenda on campaign swearing these sites on the forums further.

Furthermore, game-protect was a count and a trust abuser I wouldn't forget how he trash my trust page. That site review from the OP isn't a reliable one and not to be taken seriously and I hope that will be permabanned as well for evading his ban.

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Many Bitcoin sites have licenses through Curacao due to the fact that you cannot obtain most other licenses if you accept cryptocurrency deposits and withdrawals. Also, FWIW, Curacao does a good job protecting the player and any time there has been a complaint to them about us, we have had to prove justification of the resolution. Thanks and best of luck to all!

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I don't know why anyone would reference something close to reliable when it comes to that website.
You know that user was perma-banned from using alt accounts and shitposting on the forums for several sites using this license.
I am suspecting this is the same account registering on the site so to put forward so to continue their agenda on campaign swearing these sites on the forums further.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 23, 2021, 02:07:08 PM

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 22, 2021, 08:11:20 AM

a reputable gambling site will not use a fake Curacao license, whatever effort to make their site reputable will go to waste once they found out that they are using a fake Curacao license

I doubt that their efforts would go to waste just because they have a curacao license, if you check most of the reputable casinos around here in the forum they also have these license.

Sure there are better license out there but to discredit the reputation of most casinos is an exaggeration, a lot of crypto casinos back then didn't have a license.

I guess coin-investor refers to gambling sites with fake Curacao license when he/she said that there are sites which are not safe to play on. I think coin-investor does not refer to gambling sites with genuine Curacao license.

A casino's reliability is not to be judged on where its license is obtained. It is understandable for a gambling site to seek a place where circumstances are favorable. Curacao, with its cheap and fast licensing processes and a mere 2% tax on the gambling site's net profit, seems to be the perfect place.

Definitely, because if we say that Curacao License is scam, then it's only tantamount to saying that this country is corrupt. Gambling sites will get their license to the provider that they think will not give them a hard time and that they will maximize their profit, so we can understand why most of the crypto casinos here are getting license from Curacao.

imo, there's no problem using a curacao license. what has been presented by the OP are those sites using fake curacao license. also, whether you have an authentic curacao license or not, your reputation still depends on how you manage the casino. and that will take time before you can earn your credibility from the gambling community.
true, there are better gambling licenses than curacao, but we cant deny the fact that it is the go-to license of most casinos because it is quite easy to acquire. but you will only be tested by time. and the reviews and feedbacks from the players are also equally important, because that will affect if you can gain or sustain players in the long run.

Agree into that word about on how you do handle up the casino because license isnt really an assurance that a certain platform wont really turn out to be a scam.
Gaining reputation and trust isnt something that can be acquired in a short span of time thats why getting your own license if its to be real wont really be enough
but at least people do make out to have some trust when they do saw a certain site does able to secure or comply one.

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Quote from: Questat on April 23, 2021, 01:03:59 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on April 22, 2021, 10:49:50 PM

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 22, 2021, 08:11:20 AM

a reputable gambling site will not use a fake Curacao license, whatever effort to make their site reputable will go to waste once they found out that they are using a fake Curacao license

I doubt that their efforts would go to waste just because they have a curacao license, if you check most of the reputable casinos around here in the forum they also have these license.

Sure there are better license out there but to discredit the reputation of most casinos is an exaggeration, a lot of crypto casinos back then didn't have a license.

I guess coin-investor refers to gambling sites with fake Curacao license when he/she said that there are sites which are not safe to play on. I think coin-investor does not refer to gambling sites with genuine Curacao license.

A casino's reliability is not to be judged on where its license is obtained. It is understandable for a gambling site to seek a place where circumstances are favorable. Curacao, with its cheap and fast licensing processes and a mere 2% tax on the gambling site's net profit, seems to be the perfect place.

Definitely, because if we say that Curacao License is scam, then it's only tantamount to saying that this country is corrupt. Gambling sites will get their license to the provider that they think will not give them a hard time and that they will maximize their profit, so we can understand why most of the crypto casinos here are getting license from Curacao.

imo, there's no problem using a curacao license. what has been presented by the OP are those sites using fake curacao license. also, whether you have an authentic curacao license or not, your reputation still depends on how you manage the casino. and that will take time before you can earn your credibility from the gambling community.
true, there are better gambling licenses than curacao, but we cant deny the fact that it is the go-to license of most casinos because it is quite easy to acquire. but you will only be tested by time. and the reviews and feedbacks from the players are also equally important, because that will affect if you can gain or sustain players in the long run.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 22, 2021, 10:49:50 PM

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 22, 2021, 08:11:20 AM

a reputable gambling site will not use a fake Curacao license, whatever effort to make their site reputable will go to waste once they found out that they are using a fake Curacao license

I doubt that their efforts would go to waste just because they have a curacao license, if you check most of the reputable casinos around here in the forum they also have these license.

Sure there are better license out there but to discredit the reputation of most casinos is an exaggeration, a lot of crypto casinos back then didn't have a license.

I guess coin-investor refers to gambling sites with fake Curacao license when he/she said that there are sites which are not safe to play on. I think coin-investor does not refer to gambling sites with genuine Curacao license.

A casino's reliability is not to be judged on where its license is obtained. It is understandable for a gambling site to seek a place where circumstances are favorable. Curacao, with its cheap and fast licensing processes and a mere 2% tax on the gambling site's net profit, seems to be the perfect place.

Definitely, because if we say that Curacao License is scam, then it's only tantamount to saying that this country is corrupt. Gambling sites will get their license to the provider that they think will not give them a hard time and that they will maximize their profit, so we can understand why most of the crypto casinos here are getting license from Curacao.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 22, 2021, 09:32:30 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on April 22, 2021, 08:11:20 AM

a reputable gambling site will not use a fake Curacao license, whatever effort to make their site reputable will go to waste once they found out that they are using a fake Curacao license

I doubt that their efforts would go to waste just because they have a curacao license, if you check most of the reputable casinos around here in the forum they also have these license.

Sure there are better license out there but to discredit the reputation of most casinos is an exaggeration, a lot of crypto casinos back then didn't have a license.

I guess coin-investor refers to gambling sites with fake Curacao license when he/she said that there are sites which are not safe to play on. I think coin-investor does not refer to gambling sites with genuine Curacao license.

A casino's reliability is not to be judged on where its license is obtained. It is understandable for a gambling site to seek a place where circumstances are favorable. Curacao, with its cheap and fast licensing processes and a mere 2% tax on the gambling site's net profit, seems to be the perfect place.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 22, 2021, 08:11:20 AM

a reputable gambling site will not use a fake Curacao license, whatever effort to make their site reputable will go to waste once they found out that they are using a fake Curacao license

I doubt that their efforts would go to waste just because they have a curacao license, if you check most of the reputable casinos around here in the forum they also have these license.

Sure there are better license out there but to discredit the reputation of most casinos is an exaggeration, a lot of crypto casinos back then didn't have a license.

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Quote from: webdream on April 20, 2021, 11:38:46 AM

Hello friends,

I'm shocked Shocked

about the number of crypto casinos using the same gaming license from Curacao! Please take a look at this post: https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/

They are scam or not? Can we play safe and withdrawal our winnings or not?

What do you think about?
Thank you.

Have a nice day!

They aren't safe the fact that they are using a fake Curacao license, if you are active in gaming and gambling and you only want to play in a legit and licensed gambling site, better check their license if it is genuine, a reputable gambling site will not use a fake Curacao license, whatever effort to make their site reputable will go to waste once they found out that they are using a fake Curacao license

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Quote from: MrcMrc on April 22, 2021, 01:05:45 AM

Sometimes gambling platform owners choose to use the same logic to operate, that does not make them scam. The reasons a Curacao license is preferred e.g. government regulation/policy, taxes, and privacy 🔐.

So you can call it a scam until you have reason and proof to do so.

That's right. There are many reputable casinos in the forum that has Curacao license also. Though it is easier to acquire, sometimes it is considered one step ahead if you have a gambling license especially for newcomers. For those that don't have, it means, they earn their credibility thru time. And a lot of them here don't have their respective license. So whether you have curacao license or not, it is how you manage to operate in this gambling business. And only time will test your credibility in this gambling business.

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This reminds me of an old thread that covered the same topic about casino licenses since they're commonly found in most crypto casinos.

I agree with what notblox said as well, once you've tried so many sites and notice that most of them have the same license you'll eventually realize that the license isn't the best way to measure their reputation. Just because they're easy to get doesn't mean it's a scam, if you try to picture yourself in the shoes of a crypto casino owner you'd probably do the same.

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Sometimes gambling platform owners choose to use the same logic to operate, that does not make them scam. The reasons a Curacao license is preferred e.g. government regulation/policy, taxes, and privacy 🔐.

So you can call it a scam until you have reason and proof to do so.

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Quote from: panjul07 on April 21, 2021, 10:02:40 AM

As gambler, I have not experienced any uses from the license. Means that it gives me no benefits as a gambler.
I will only use this forum when it comes to crypto gambling and I will never consider to play on casino just because of license.

Yea, that's because most crypto gambling sites use Curacao license, no benefit for gamble. But a proper license, especially on land casinos, means they will close the shop if the regulator finds something wrong. Thus, customers feel safe playing there. For online casinos, MGA license carries more weight than Curacao.

Anyway, game-protect.com is more scammy than the scam sites mentioned in there.

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Quote from: webdream on April 20, 2021, 11:38:46 AM

Hello friends,

I'm shocked Shocked

about the number of crypto casinos using the same gaming license from Curacao! Please take a look at this post: https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/

They are scam or not? Can we play safe and withdrawal our winnings or not?

What do you think about?
Thank you.

Have a nice day!

You can choose your privacy or security but there are lot of gambling websites with curacao license become the most reputed crypto casinos and sportbooks but few others with other license have to ask the KYC details from their customers then this will make lot of gamblers to go less regulated casinos.

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In my experience, Curacao license is definitely better than no license at all. These operators at least tried to get some kind of a license instead of operating without any overseeing authorities. Sure, Curacao license is cheaper and has fewer requirements than getting approved in the UK, Sweden, and Germany soon. However, there are many reliable casino brands that work with this license for years and have a huge fan base. Sure, there may be some bad stories and experiences. But I would definitely think twice before categorizing all Curacao casinos as untrustworthy because that's just not true.

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As I see the site says the mentioned casinos are scammers because:

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1) It is prohibited to transfer the 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ license to other operators.

2) Key conditions of the usage right contract like under its supervision or responsibility are not fulfilled!

Interesting that second point's *key conditions* aren't even explained. What are these conditions, what isn't exactly being fulfilled? Hard to comment without further information.

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Many Curacao license scam operators also do not enforce applicable AML / KYC laws and regulations.

Lol, if a casino doesn't enforce their players to show identity, does it make the casino a scammer for this reason too?

The casinos mentioned on the site's list are many, and some of them definitelly aren't scammers, as they promote their brands in this forum and don't have a negative reputation. In fact it's quite the opposite.
It looks like casinos are being called scammers because they don't fully follow bureaucracy witch is common outside crypto decentralized universe.

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Quote from: harizen on April 21, 2021, 12:06:39 PM

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I don't think the likelihood of a gambling site going bust depends on the licence obtained. If a casino founder knows in advance that his gambling site at some point in time will cease to exist, along with user deposits, it is much easier to use the Costa Rican license, as it is almost twice cheaper than the Curacao license.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 21, 2021, 11:18:38 AM

Many casinos obtain a Curacao license as it is one of the easiest ways to obtain a license for all gambling activities in a very short time compared to obtaining a license in other countries. As far as I know Curacao has very low taxation fees so most gambling venues are keen to get this license.

Not just the fees but applying license from Curacao is less complicated compare to other jurisdictions. The cost is also convenient. They are also crypto-friendly. But with that, there's also a chance that some will take advantage of it - gaining user's trust then will turn into sh*t someday.

Bottom line, while there are lots of benefits to being a licensed gambling site, it's not a basis that the site won't turn into a scam one someday. That's why always be vigilant and careful at those new gambling sites having a Curacao license. Not saying it will turn into a scam but we should see "something" about them that they are here for only legal business and operation and not anything else.

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Quote from: webdream on April 20, 2021, 11:38:46 AM

They are scam or not? Can we play safe and withdrawal our winnings or not?

What do you think about?

I can't really say all curacao licensed places are a scam, but I can say that it also does nothing at all. Sure you are giving very detailed information about the business but you could fake that, just hire someone to be the fall guy, pay them well, and then whatever happens it will be that person in trouble and that is it. This is why I think it is not going to be that much in trouble, it is going to be quite risky and we would really need something much more trustworthy.

This is why I gamble on casinos I trust, been there for years, and I can just gamble without care, that way you do not need a license, some places I gamble do not even have licenses, and I still like them, the point is that they should earn your trust, if you are not sure, if you doubt, then curacao should not be enough to convince you otherwise and get you to actually gamble there.

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Many casinos obtain a Curacao license as it is one of the easiest ways to obtain a license for all gambling activities in a very short time compared to obtaining a license in other countries. As far as I know Curacao has very low taxation fees so most gambling venues are keen to get this license.

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