Current best powered risers available?

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Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 12, 2018, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 12, 2018, 08:13:46 AM

Like I said. No there isn’t any problem with temp. There are 6 fans surrounding the cards that pull air across them.

I just saw it before I didn't realize it. Does it use VPM like delta and that frame like CPU in general? If true I will try to assemble it like that.

I usually assemble a rig from wood and aluminum.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to ask. I don’t know what VPM is or what you mean in reference to the CPU.

But the fans are Noctua iPPC 2000 rpm fans.

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Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 12, 2018, 08:13:46 AM

Like I said. No there isn’t any problem with temp. There are 6 fans surrounding the cards that pull air across them.

I just saw it before I didn't realize it. Does it use VPM like delta and that frame like CPU in general? If true I will try to assemble it like that.

I usually assemble a rig from wood and aluminum.

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Quote from: dragonmike on September 12, 2018, 08:53:06 AM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 12, 2018, 08:13:46 AM

Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 12, 2018, 12:07:09 AM

your Mining Rig looks very neat dude, usually, a frame like that when placed on the floor using a carpet or your floor looks from wood. by the way, I see the distance between each card is too close together, is there a problem with the temperature on each card.

Like I said. No there isn’t any problem with temp. There are 6 fans surrounding the cards that pull air across them.

What GPUs are these? 6-pin connector only means probably RX 560's?
I always find myself cursing the PSUs because they never seem to have enough cables to feed all PCI-E's or Molex or both...

They are RX570s and 580s. They both have 8-pin connectors. The only thing that has 6-pin is the riser itself.

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Quote from: dragonmike on September 12, 2018, 08:53:06 AM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 12, 2018, 08:13:46 AM

Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 12, 2018, 12:07:09 AM

your Mining Rig looks very neat dude, usually, a frame like that when placed on the floor using a carpet or your floor looks from wood. by the way, I see the distance between each card is too close together, is there a problem with the temperature on each card.

Like I said. No there isn’t any problem with temp. There are 6 fans surrounding the cards that pull air across them.

What GPUs are these? 6-pin connector only means probably RX 560's?
I always find myself cursing the PSUs because they never seem to have enough cables to feed all PCI-E's or Molex or both...

Or rx470/480s. I dunno, 6 cards on an evga 1300, 9 on a 1600, leaves some overhead and nothing melts...

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Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 12, 2018, 08:13:46 AM

Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 12, 2018, 12:07:09 AM

your Mining Rig looks very neat dude, usually, a frame like that when placed on the floor using a carpet or your floor looks from wood. by the way, I see the distance between each card is too close together, is there a problem with the temperature on each card.

Like I said. No there isn’t any problem with temp. There are 6 fans surrounding the cards that pull air across them.

What GPUs are these? 6-pin connector only means probably RX 560's?
I always find myself cursing the PSUs because they never seem to have enough cables to feed all PCI-E's or Molex or both...

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Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 12, 2018, 12:07:09 AM

your Mining Rig looks very neat dude, usually, a frame like that when placed on the floor using a carpet or your floor looks from wood. by the way, I see the distance between each card is too close together, is there a problem with the temperature on each card.

Like I said. No there isn’t any problem with temp. There are 6 fans surrounding the cards that pull air across them.

I set the software to keep the cards at 65C, and each card modulates it’s fan to maintain that with fan speeds varying from 25-70% fan speed depending on the ambient temp

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your Mining Rig looks very neat dude, usually, a frame like that when placed on the floor using a carpet or your floor looks from wood. by the way, I see the distance between each card is too close together, is there a problem with the temperature on each card.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 11, 2018, 03:18:25 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 11, 2018, 12:55:31 PM

This is because you can put the cards closer together without having anything between the cards. The V008 risers are nice with multiple connection types, but having the SATA front facing and the 6-pin on the side is pointless. When using the 6-pin connector on V008, it causes clearance issues between cards when you want to push the cards tightly together.

Personally I’m most cases, I use a splitter to split a single 8-pin PCIe connector to 2x 6+2 pin connectors. I then plug one into the riser and one into the cards PCIe connector. Allowing me to reduce cable clutter and power both the card and the riser from the same single 8-pin PCIe. Works great.

If you are pushing the cards THAT close together, they're not getting air and overheating.
The triple-power risers are NOT all that wide.

Most multi-card rigs need all the PCI-E power connections to power CARDS with, it's uncommon for there to be enough "spare" PCI-E connections to power more than 1 or 2 risers with them.
Splitting an 8-pin to a pair of 6-pin connectors shouldn't be an issue though, if you use a high quality splitter.

False. I’ve done this. The cards run just fine. I’m talking about a similar spacing that is in use on the Octominer boards. They don’t have any problems. You don’t know what you’re talking about in a real world situation, just your speculation.

8 cards with very small spacing between cards in a Rosewill RSV-L4500 case with 3 fans on both sides. The cards basically exist in a wind tunnel here and all the hot air is immediately exhausted. And only possible when using a riser with front facing power connections. And since SATA connectors are not reliable, are inferior. My concern isn’t that there is 3 connectors. My concern is that the 6 pin should be the one that is front facing. Using the 6pin is the best option. And if the 6pin is on the side then it puts limits on how close the cards can be. Look at the picture at the bottom of the first page to see what I mean about the power connection being on the side

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Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on September 11, 2018, 12:55:31 PM

This is because you can put the cards closer together without having anything between the cards. The V008 risers are nice with multiple connection types, but having the SATA front facing and the 6-pin on the side is pointless. When using the 6-pin connector on V008, it causes clearance issues between cards when you want to push the cards tightly together.

Personally I’m most cases, I use a splitter to split a single 8-pin PCIe connector to 2x 6+2 pin connectors. I then plug one into the riser and one into the cards PCIe connector. Allowing me to reduce cable clutter and power both the card and the riser from the same single 8-pin PCIe. Works great.

If you are pushing the cards THAT close together, they're not getting air and overheating.
The triple-power risers are NOT all that wide.

Most multi-card rigs need all the PCI-E power connections to power CARDS with, it's uncommon for there to be enough "spare" PCI-E connections to power more than 1 or 2 risers with them.
Splitting an 8-pin to a pair of 6-pin connectors shouldn't be an issue though, if you use a high quality splitter.

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In my opinion, the best risers are the Blue V006c risers that have a single 6-pin power connection that is front facing.

This is because you can put the cards closer together without having anything between the cards. The V008 risers are nice with multiple connection types, but having the SATA front facing and the 6-pin on the side is pointless. When using the 6-pin connector on V008, it causes clearance issues between cards when you want to push the cards tightly together.

Personally I’m most cases, I use a splitter to split a single 8-pin PCIe connector to 2x 6+2 pin connectors. I then plug one into the riser and one into the cards PCIe connector. Allowing me to reduce cable clutter and power both the card and the riser from the same single 8-pin PCIe. Works great.

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Yes, I know.
Until now I use it because I like to use various types of USB Risers to find out every performance. I have enough SATA / Molex connectors from the PSU. I intentionally did it not only saw the rig run smoothly but tried to learn every component in the Rig even though it took extra time.

The most important are these points:

Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 11, 2018, 10:49:09 AM

The best USB riser is that has (IMO):

Lots of capacitors
some types only have 1 or 2 of these components
Led indicator
IC component
because some types do not have this component
Voltage Regulator Protect
because some types do not have this component

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Quote from: jillscarbrough on September 11, 2018, 10:49:09 AM

The best USB riser is that has (IMO):

Lots of capacitors
some types only have 1 or 2 of these components
Led indicator
IC component
because some types do not have this component
Voltage Regulator Protect
because some types do not have this component

I have used these type:

VER008C
VER008S
VER006C
VER006

Out of all these you listed, most have SATA power connectors.
That kinda sucks.
Only VER006 has molex (they include SATA adaptors but you don't have to use them - could just connect molex directly from PSU).

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The best USB riser is that has (IMO):

Lots of capacitors
some types only have 1 or 2 of these components
Led indicator
IC component
because some types do not have this component
Voltage Regulator Protect
because some types do not have this component

I have used these type:

VER008C
VER008S
VER006C
VER006

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Quote from: zeef on September 05, 2018, 07:27:05 PM

My doubt is the color of the riser leds, they are permanet red since the beggining, shouldn t be blue, im seeing rigs that is blue for normal functionality ..

Depends on the riser - all of the ones I've used to date that have a "power good" indicator use a red LED, probably because those are more common and less expensive than blue.

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Quote from: Comino on September 10, 2018, 04:00:17 AM

When you choose a riser, consider:

4. solid capacitors not electrolytic

Solid capacitors are A TYPE OF electrolytic.

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No noise. No hustle. Quiet as whisper. Comino.

When you choose a riser, consider:

1. high-quality plugs
2. Gold-fingers in knife connector
3. use a good quality commutation cable
4. solid capacitors not electrolytic
5. use a power converter of a major manufacturer, not Chinese

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Hi guys,

I have one vega 64 rig with this risers: https://miningwholesale.eu/product/pci-express-riser-009s-extender-card-adapter-6-pin/ (PCEN164P-N03)

The rig is rocked stable for months,

My doubt is the color of the riser leds, they are permanet red since the beggining, shouldn t be blue, im seeing rigs that is blue for normal functionality ..

My rig: https://s15.postimg.cc/xk2advqjr/64_rig.png

Thanks

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Limitations on available PCI-E power connections on power supplies is why I prefer MOLEX powered risers - nothing to do with the power connector itself as both are plenty to handle riser power requirements.

I don't like using "splitters" when I can avoid them - and most splitters are too short to WORK anyway.

They're also an added expense, while the power supply comes with MOLEX power leads that generally don't get used otherwise.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on January 06, 2018, 03:24:55 PM

If I could find a GOOD MOLEX riser, I'd go with it - but so far no luck.
The all-in-one risers I've gotten from COBOC via Newegg have been hassle-free.
The Mintcell all-in-one risers worked, but the USB cable was iffy and had to be replaced to work well on one.

whats the reason for choosing Molex over 6PIN riser board?

Is it better to hook them up via Molex instead of single 8pin pcie cable with 6pin piggy tail?

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Quote from: QuintLeo on January 06, 2018, 03:24:55 PM

If I could find a GOOD MOLEX riser, I'd go with it - but so far no luck.
The all-in-one risers I've gotten from COBOC via Newegg have been hassle-free.
The Mintcell all-in-one risers worked, but the USB cable was iffy and had to be replaced to work well on one.

It seems like this riser with the same rev and appearance is available on amazon at a cheaper price:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Z754LT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've used them for a couple of weeks with no problems so far.

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