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crocko

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Quote from: AFox on June 15, 2013, 04:41:01 PM

Its pretty hard to see the topics that are actually talking about the hardware. There are plenty of group buys.
My opinion would be to split the Hardware section and rearrange like this (I think it would be the easiest way of doing it) :
|--Mining
   |--Computer Hardware (CPU, GPU, Rig ....)
   |--Custom Hardware (FPGA, ASIC, ...)
   |--Group-Buy, Services

It would be a hassle but it would be nice to have something like this :
|--Mining
   |--Computer Hardware (CPU, GPU, Rig ....)
   |--Custom Hardware (FPGA, ASIC, ...)
   |--AsicMiner
   |--Avalon
   |--BFL
   |--KNCMiner
   |--Group-Buy, Services

+1

Transisto

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Sorry I had missed this discussion, Here's my view on it.

Sort by chip producer.

The many BFL chips integrator
The many Avalon chips integrator
ASICMINER
... To come.
......

Quote from: Transisto on June 22, 2013, 03:54:54 AM

Given how important mining is to the bitcoin ecosystem, how hard of a task it is to produce ASIC chips and how much discussion is being generated by each of them I think the community could only benefits from allowing company specific boards.

Requirements :

Being requested by company owner
Produce own chips
Proven working devices

Benefits vs creating own website :

Clean the parent /Custom hardware/ sub, making place for new development
Benefits from bitcointalk's reputation system.
Lower barrier of entry for customer support.

(not all business have the resources available to run a safe and functional forum)

-> FriedCat ...

CoinHoarder

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Thank you guys!!!!

We can now discuss custom hardware options without the clutter of group buys for them... perfect.

Thanks again!

BadBear

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Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 11:41:12 AM

I'll just create a Group Buys section for now.

That works, will at least make it readable so we can evaluate it better. I moved most of them, left some redirects so people will notice.

theymos

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I'll just create a Group Buys section for now.

Raize

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Quote from: BadBear on June 18, 2013, 01:31:24 AM

Sounds good, I'm still thinking about whether we need a mining marketplace forum to separate that stuff out. I'd rather see actual discussion about hardware, and not companies advertising, like the difference between services and service discussion. Using the current marketplace works, but that stuff is very specific and probably isn't interesting to the rest of the forum. Computer hardware is already flooded with asic/FPGA stuff.

I agree there almost needs to be some form of a "mining marketplace", even though what those companies and group buys are doing isn't really "marketing". They are just providing specifics on how their board layouts are going to be, who who is coordinating the group buys. These discussions often get too technical for "marketplace" but too spammy for "Custom Hardware".

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Why not widen group buys to mining BST?

BadBear

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Quote from: theymos on June 16, 2013, 10:19:43 PM

Sections need to be vendor-neutral. What do you think of:

Mining
Hardware
[directly in Hardware: ASIC, etc.]
Low-performance hardware (CPU, GPU, etc.)
Group buys

I'll move everything currently in Hardware directly to Low-performance and everything in Custom Hardware to Hardware.

Are more sections than this needed?

Sounds good, I'm still thinking about whether we need a mining marketplace forum to separate that stuff out. I'd rather see actual discussion about hardware, and not companies advertising, like the difference between services and service discussion. Using the current marketplace works, but that stuff is very specific and probably isn't interesting to the rest of the forum. Computer hardware is already flooded with asic/FPGA stuff.

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Quote from: theymos on June 16, 2013, 10:19:43 PM

Sections need to be vendor-neutral. What do you think of:

Mining
   Hardware
   [directly in Hardware: ASIC, etc.]
   Low-performance hardware (CPU, GPU, etc.)
   Group buys

I'll move everything currently in Hardware directly to Low-performance and everything in Custom Hardware to Hardware.

Are more sections than this needed?

This sounds perfect.

Having a separate sub forum for group buys will clear out most of the clutter. Make sure to put up a notice like in the securities subforum that you don't remove likely scams, etc... bound to be some scammers that pop up in there. Cheers, and thanks!

Raize

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Instead of "Low-performance", how about just "Other"? I could see some discussion on a wide range of things (GPU arrays?) in the future, and obviously the alt-coin folks are going to be viewing it pretty regularly...

I agree on avoiding vendor-specific, that could definitely turn into problems.

Seems like people are already using "Hardware" to talk about just the hardware anyway, most are avoiding Custom like the plague now. I'd like to get the link in my signature moved to Hardware, in fact.

EDIT: I think mostly though, the biggest issue is that there's just a crapload of "Group Buy" posts. Even if we just had a section just for that, I think it'd be sufficient.

theymos

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Sections need to be vendor-neutral. What do you think of:

Mining
Hardware
[directly in Hardware: ASIC, etc.]
Low-performance hardware (CPU, GPU, etc.)
Group buys

I'll move everything currently in Hardware directly to Low-performance and everything in Custom Hardware to Hardware.

Are more sections than this needed?

Cablez

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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...

Another twist with the BFL chip codes and the custom hardware sub forum is now unreadable. Please someone sort it out soon.

tysat

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Keep it real

Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 16, 2013, 02:49:31 PM

Come on mods... 2.2% say the subforum is fine the way it is.

It is obvious something needs to be done.....

Mods don't make the decision, admins do.

CoinHoarder

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Come on mods... 2.2% say the subforum is fine the way it is.

It is obvious something needs to be done.....

icebear888

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Quote from: jspielberg on June 15, 2013, 10:52:35 PM

Right now Custom Hardware is a mess... please do something .... ANYTHING!!!

I think subforums for SALES/Marketing/Group Buys would go a long way towards making it a readable subforum.

Yes, I like your layout!

jspielberg

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Right now Custom Hardware is a mess... please do something .... ANYTHING!!!

I think subforums for SALES/Marketing/Group Buys would go a long way towards making it a readable subforum.

AFox

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Its pretty hard to see the topics that are actually talking about the hardware. There are plenty of group buys.
My opinion would be to split the Hardware section and rearrange like this (I think it would be the easiest way of doing it) :
|--Mining
   |--Computer Hardware (CPU, GPU, Rig ....)
   |--Custom Hardware (FPGA, ASIC, ...)
   |--Group-Buy, Services

It would be a hassle but it would be nice to have something like this :
|--Mining
   |--Computer Hardware (CPU, GPU, Rig ....)
   |--Custom Hardware (FPGA, ASIC, ...)
   |--AsicMiner
   |--Avalon
   |--BFL
   |--KNCMiner
   |--Group-Buy, Services

Raize

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Yeah, that sounds good enough for now, anyway. Maybe just rename it to "Hardware Sales" or something? I mean, it's hard to know the direction things will be going in the future for mining, but right now it just doesn't really match what the categories for discussion are. The users have started using the whole of the Mining subcategory differently than it is presently categorized, anyway as evidenced by some of the threads I've linked.

BadBear

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It probably is time to end the custom hardware segregation, it's gotten pretty busy for one subforum buried so deep, and it's not all vaporware anymore. Custom hardware should probably be removed or renamed and the threads there spread out where they belong, they are much more relevant to mining these days, than back when it was first categorized the way it is. Just look at the difference between hardware, and custom hardware (which is it's child board). Doesn't really make sense anymore.

Easiest solution I can think of is to move the general custom hardware threads to hardware (the threads Raize is referring to would mostly be here), support, mining, wherever they go, and then use the custom hardware subforum as a temporary mining marketplace forum (group buys mostly) while we see just how busy it is and whether a separate marketplace for mining is necessary.

Raize

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Sorry to bump again so soon. Felt like this needed to be more than an edit.

How about having things organized like so:

Mining:
* Mining Discussion - By Default anything not otherwise classified goes in here. Could even be formulated to be a "newbie" forum to help clear that one up.
* Mining Support - Specifically posts that end in question marks would generally get moved here, as well as specific product support threads.
* Mining Software - Discussions on firmware and the various mining softwares
* Mining Hardware - General Product discussion, no sales or sales-like threads allowed
* Mining Speculation - Ideally this would be for talking about difficulty as well as miner-specific ideas.
* Mining Sales - Group buys, custom hardware sales. Ideally, companies that have discussion posts elsewhere in the Mining subcategory would link to the threads in here when they are actually exchanging BTC.

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