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With all these happening, I suggest we should be reminded as bitcoiners on what we are made for and should not loose focus on how we can achieve our target with the use of bitcoin for our financial economy in all modules of it's applications Privacy should be our heritage with bitcoin, using centralized exchanges is the weakest means to have it, because the governments will be after you when you're under a centralized exchange, they have all your details with them.

Every bitcoiners should understand why they need to have in custody their own digital financial asset and not with third parties like exchange ss, they can be attacked, hacked and if any of these happens, our asset with them are gone, we should learn to avoid the use of exchange, hold our bitcoin on cold storages and remember that not your keys not your coins still ever remains verdict in bitcoin network.

Light sentence for him, and he is lucky, although he had cough up billions already and cooperate with the authorities that's why the sentence is just 4 months, a slap on the wrist.

As for our Bitcoin, yes, although I don't see any connection as he already step down at Binance and so he don't have access to our Bitcoin. Nevertheless, it's bull run already and so it's better to have our BTC in our wallet in which we have total control, private keys and mnemonic phrase.
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I don't see the connection of privacy and CZ's sentence to 4 months in prison. And if using centralized exchanges is the weakest means on this community, then most of us have been weak but it's likely that everyone has used centralized exchanges. Anyway, as I am telling that there's no connection about privacy and CZ sentence and to add the fact, CZ is no longer part of Binance in paper as what he's told before because he had already resigned from his post on the company.
I've also read and re-read what the OP wrote and I don't see any connection between CZ's ruling and our privacy rights. And CZ doesn't even have any connection to Binance anymore and users of this leading exchange have nothing to fear with this news.

What's more confusing is that many people were gloating when CZ was convicted and had to spend 4 months in prison. CZ hasn't done anything wrong to anyone nor stolen anyone's bitcoins like SBF did but why are so many people hostile towards him? It is true that talented and wealthy people are always envied and hated by petty people for whatever reason.
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Already the reason for creating Bitcoin was to stand as a decentralized means of exchange among Bitcoin holders and not for using centralized exchanges to exchange Bitcoin for fiat because if we keep exchanging Bitcoins to fiat that means we are still giving fiat value and the quest to achieve a Bitcoin adoption policy in our monetary system may will take much longer time.
There is no mass adoption for BTC yet, and we cannot yet spend BTC on a lot of things, so people have to trade BTC for fiat when they need to. BTC is a 'free' currency, so do not tell people what to do with their coins.
Centralized exchanges is very risky because before you are allowed to use centralized exchanges you will be required to undergo KYC which includes your personal information which can be traceable
There are p2p exchanges that you can use to trade BTC to fiat or to other cryptocurrencies without undergoing kyc. Here are some of them: https://kycnot.me/?t=exchange
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Already the reason for creating Bitcoin was to stand as a decentralized means of exchange among Bitcoin holders and not for using centralized exchanges to exchange Bitcoin for fiat because if we keep exchanging Bitcoins to fiat that means we are still giving fiat value and the quest to achieve a Bitcoin adoption policy in our monetary system may will take much longer time.
Centralized exchanges is very risky because before you are allowed to use centralized exchanges you will be required to undergo KYC which includes your personal information which can be traceable and since the government is not completely in support of cryptocurrency means that everyone needs to be very careful when giving out personal data about themselves more especially those of us in the crypto industry because all the eyes of the government are focused on any loophole they will use to clampdown cryptocurrency though it is rather too late for them now because the awareness have gone beyond their imagination.
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Oh man, your bitcoin in their custody? Whose bitcoin are you talking about though, everyone's? Or just the Binance users? Either way, that is false. Binance has not been seized or anything.

On Tuesday, the Binance CEO CZ was sentenced to four months imprisonment all on the charges of allowing for the participation of illegal money laundry from his exchange Binance, the US government gile a lawsuit against him and charged him, same way they habe been clamping down of other privacy means in which bitcoiner can use to achieve thier goals, i don't wa t to mention the keyword bit we all know about the recent ban thst took effect since January 1st of this year 2024.

What is this, now people think they are not even allowed to say the word "mixer" on Bitcointalk.org? Guys, this is not Bitcointalk.ru. The forum's mission is "to be as free as possible", you can still talk about mixers. Not that it's relevant to this topic though.
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The funny thing is they only tell you what they wanna tell you, not what you wanna hear. This is just another strategy for the governments to make it look like they're intolerable but, CZ isn't serving time in jail, don't be a p***y y'all!
Although if we think about it more broadly this is part of an attack on privacy, for which it seems to be money laundering anything that has to do with protecting it. And the bad news is that it seems to me that this has only just begun.
There's no privacy guarantee on CEXs - atleast away from the gov after inducing the KYCs - so I'd say, it's unimaginably a route that has been charged of several money laundering cases [just like you said], since they never had layeddown rule. $4 billion was enough to make the gov wheel away their initial penalty, as it is with every other criminal cases!
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Well, if I compare Cz to SBF, Cz will be more innocent than SBF, so the only thing that happened is that this US government seems to be using their power to harass whoever they want to harass. It's like I can't see that Cz has been abused.

Because if there is, then what happened to FTX should be the same with Binance? But this is not what is happening in Binance; instead, the community users of Binance are still numerous and, to be honest, So maybe his imprisonment is only 4 months; it seems like he is really just harassing Cz, and then the size of 4 billion dollars is already given for payment.
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I Like CZ. with his honest words "I'm sorry,"

Looking at the current market conditions and listening to some mainstream news that the Federal Reserve pauses interest rate hikes, remains at 5.25% - 5.50% but I have an assumption that the correction is still large, the potential can even touch 50K again or even deeper.

For the last point I agree because it involves our investment desires and it all comes back to us how much we care about our assets. So it will be very interesting to see what happens next in the market. Cheesy.
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Every bitcoiners should understand why they need to have in custody their own digital financial asset and not with third parties like exchange ss, they can be attacked, hacked and if any of these happens, our asset with them are gone, we should learn to avoid the use of exchange, hold our bitcoin on cold storages and remember that not your keys not your coins still ever remains verdict in bitcoin network.
Of course I agree with not leaving your bitcoins on exchanges but I don't see what this has to do with CZ's sentence, like if now that he's been sentenced the US government will confiscate all Binance users' funds... And talking about CZ, probably at the end his situation wasn't that serious because 4 months is pretty much nothing, usually in the US they go pretty heavy for this type of crimes, I guess they didn't have such a solid case after all.
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I don't see the connection of privacy and CZ's sentence to 4 months in prison. And if using centralized exchanges is the weakest means on this community, then most of us have been weak but it's likely that everyone has used centralized exchanges. Anyway, as I am telling that there's no connection about privacy and CZ sentence and to add the fact, CZ is no longer part of Binance in paper as what he's told before because he had already resigned from his post on the company.

For sure, he already prepared for the worst, hence, he resigned from the company last Nov 2023. So it won't interfere from their business. He has new CEO so business will be the same for them.

Also, his lawyers are insisting to receive no prison time at all as he is coming from UAE, his family is living in this middle eastern country. And this country has no extradition treaty with the US. I guess, CZ knows where to live... Grin
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He seemed to be well prepared with all of the possible consequences and I think that coming from a possible 3 years in jail, the lawyers were able to put it down to 4 months. That's actually a great job for them and they're able to do it legally. Some potential changes to Binance will come after he's got released from there and that's another story that we have to tune in but basically, an impact for the market is what I am waiting at that time.
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I don't see the connection of privacy and CZ's sentence to 4 months in prison. And if using centralized exchanges is the weakest means on this community, then most of us have been weak but it's likely that everyone has used centralized exchanges. Anyway, as I am telling that there's no connection about privacy and CZ sentence and to add the fact, CZ is no longer part of Binance in paper as what he's told before because he had already resigned from his post on the company.

For sure, he already prepared for the worst, hence, he resigned from the company last Nov 2023. So it won't interfere from their business. He has new CEO so business will be the same for them.

Also, his lawyers are insisting to receive no prison time at all as he is coming from UAE, his family is living in this middle eastern country. And this country has no extradition treaty with the US. I guess, CZ knows where to live... Grin
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I don't see the connection of privacy and CZ's sentence to 4 months in prison. And if using centralized exchanges is the weakest means on this community, then most of us have been weak but it's likely that everyone has used centralized exchanges. Anyway, as I am telling that there's no connection about privacy and CZ sentence and to add the fact, CZ is no longer part of Binance in paper as what he's told before because he had already resigned from his post on the company.
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The former CEO of the popular central exchange Binance, C Z, has been sentenced to four months in prison. Since the sentence is only four months, there will be no change in the rules of the exchange and no negative impact on the exchange. Since CZ has already resigned as CEO, I don't think his prison sentence will have any negative impact on Binance Exchange.
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Binance by far, the biggest crypto exchange in the world so they are able to soak that hit. Think about a smaller exchange, they would have to go out of the business!

It's the same way the US prosecutors are going after decentralized platforms now like Uniswap. Heck, even the SEC say that ETH is a security. Whether centralized or decentralized, anything that has to do with crypto will always be up for scrutiny by the government. With the way government is moving, I have a feeling that they'd be going after more crypto businesses and firms in the near future as long as they've managed to convict one of the biggest KOLs in crypto (CZ), they'd want to go after others.
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Nowadays, I don't trust much in centralised exchange anymore. They can freeze all the funds for any reason. So you need to be very careful when using centralised exchanges, not just Binance.
You are right, and you have made the right decision about your coins, not your keys; not your coins. Centralized exchanges has never been a trusted and secure way to store coins, they have the keys and they can confiscate your funds anytime or lose your money in fractional reserve 'scam'. If you don't want to lose your coins, then it should be offline and in your own self custody.
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Recently, I left Binance and withdrew all the funds. To be honest, for some reasons, they had frozen my account; later, they unfroze it but did not allow me to trade there. So I moved all the funds to my hardware wallet. Now there are no more funds in Binance, and I have almost secured all my funds with hardware wallets. Nowadays, I don't trust much in centralised exchange anymore. They can freeze all the funds for any reason. So you need to be very careful when using centralised exchanges, not just Binance. 
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The 4-month sentence must have been the reason for panicking that caused the price to go down. Right?

I'm leaning towards no since their BNB should've taken hit the most if so. Further, 4 months ain't exactly bad as we can also see from CZ's happy face lmao -- assuming it's not an old photo taken to spice things up lol.

IDK about btc's price decrease tho, just took it as a post halving dump haha
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What next after four months,

On Tuesday, the Binance CEO CZ was sentenced to four months imprisonment all on the charges of allowing for the participation of illegal money laundry from his exchange Binance, the US government gile a lawsuit against him and charged him, same way they habe been clamping down of other privacy means in which bitcoiner can use to achieve thier goals, i don't wa t to mention the keyword bit we all know about the recent ban thst took effect since January 1st of this year 2024.

With all these happening, I suggest we should be reminded as bitcoiners on what we are made for and should not loose focus on how we can achieve our target with the use of bitcoin for our financial economy in all modules of it's applications Privacy should be our heritage with bitcoin, using centralized exchanges is the weakest means to have it, because the governments will be after you when you're under a centralized exchange, they have all your details with them.

Every bitcoiners should understand why they need to have in custody their own digital financial asset and not with third parties like exchange ss, they can be attacked, hacked and if any of these happens, our asset with them are gone, we should learn to avoid the use of exchange, hold our bitcoin on cold storages and remember that not your keys not your coins still ever remains verdict in bitcoin network.


The Binance CEO has really faced a lot of persecution from the government, he is like a lone sheep in the wilderness facing all the wolves.
This is more like giving a dog a bad name just so that you could kill it, it's purely a fight against the Bitcoin community and considering the fact that Binance is a leading CEX, they are fighting it with all their might. Luckily a four months sentence is not much, but it's a dent on his imagine and that is what they've been looking for, since the last prosecution ended in forfeiture.
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When you are sentenced to 4  months in prison, you do not see a day in prison at all. First of all, I am %100 sure that he would simply just not go to USA and won't see a day in jail let alone prison. However, even in that case this just turns into money and you pay the money and you get out of this judgement, you do not go to actually see inside the prison, not for even a single day.

However, USA is actually making sense with this, normally I would call it a hoax and just say that USA is trying to pressure CZ into something, but yes there was actual proof that Binance as a company (maybe not CZ) was aware of the money laundering on their website and let it happen, which is fully illegal, hence it is normal that there is a crime here that needs to be pointed out.
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Do you know what's most interesting in this whole situation? I'd point at two things.
1. He obviously was accepting bitcoin from shady groups, hackers, sanctioned entities and so on, but never really faced anything besides fines. How many people do you know who are found guilty of something like a fraud or money laundering and don't get at least a mandatory year in prison? IMO this is one big extortion from the US gov. They know he's got money and he's willing to pay them off.

2. I thought he struck a deal last year and they still decided to prosecute him. IMO they wanted more money, or they wanted to suppress the price of bitcoin by going after him. This is obviously much bigger than CZ and Binance. This is about shaking out weak hands and allowing rich people who missed the first ETF wave to accumulate.

CZ is rich and he sees everything has a piece tag. maybe he bought those judges already 4 months after violating the law that will most likely cause a war if it's the sanctioned countries do it.

but i'm also speculating CZ is paying a huge amount for this and most probably he is going to make a deal in snitching those in the market. gonna be a disaster which CZ i can tell that CZ may not really be a friend of crypto. SBF was doing the same to save his ass.
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