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sr. member
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We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People all us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....
We come back to the Ponzi discussion. Being insolvent, makes you just like a Ponzi. You will be able to accept withdrawal request and also will be able to make some. But at the end , you will be insolvent, and there will be some users who won't get their money back.



Again, maybe English is your third or fourth language. We are solvent and honor all withdrawal request just on-time, small and large ones. I have asked earlier if I can prove it here.
sr. member
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leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

So if I invest 1 BTC then divest it, and repeat 1000 times, it will show that I have invested 1000 BTC?

That's retarded. Why would you design it like that?

All anyone cares about is the amount people currently have invested, not a sum of all their comings and goings.

It's hard to believe that anyone would design a stats page that shows the total of all invests without also showing the total of all divests. What would be the point? What would it mean?

It seems more likely to me that those two users are still invested and you have been caught in another lie when you said they aren't.

I believe leen is actaully a bitcointalk member and can confirm about the invested amount. Unless he is involved with dadice , I think he will tell the truth.
legendary
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I might be being dumb here but somebody help me out.....
Da Dice have now disabled the investor option so it's all a moot point but even if they have had people invest & some of the money invested has gone on paying for website development, signature campaigns to help the site grow why is that a problem?

The problem is that what happens on dice sites isn't really "investing". I picked a bad name for it. A better name would be "bankrolling". My bad.

When you invest in a company, you're typically giving them some funds in exchange for part ownership of that company. They're free to use that money to build the company, and you reap the rewards since you own a share of it.

When you "invest" in a dice site, you're merely providing funds for the bankroll. The agreement is that your coins will be used to bankroll the site, and in exchange you get a share of the profits and losses according to the size of the amount you risk. You're meant to be able to divest your coins at any time and withdraw them. There's an expectation that the site will hold the coins for you and have them available for withdrawal should you want them. If they spend a bunch of them on bombarding forums with advertising (say) then they no longer have enough coins to cover their liabilities. They still have enough coins to let some of the investors pull out, but if they all wanted out at the same time there wouldn't be enough coins to pay them all.

Do you see the difference? The typical dice-site deal is that the site isn't meant to be spending the customer funds. It should only use them as the bankroll that other customers play against. Maybe DaDice have a special arrangement with their investors that means it's fine if they spend their coins on just anything. In which case there's no problem at all. The investors might not be able to withdraw, and that's OK because that's what they agreed to. I didn't look at the DaDice 'invest' page to see what they agreed to.
sr. member
Activity: 252
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DaDice Administration
leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

So if I invest 1 BTC then divest it, and repeat 1000 times, it will show that I have invested 1000 BTC?

That's retarded. Why would you design it like that?

All anyone cares about is the amount people currently have invested, not a sum of all their comings and goings.

It's hard to believe that anyone would design a stats page that shows the total of all invests without also showing the total of all divests. What would be the point? What would it mean?

It seems more likely to me that those two users are still invested and you have been caught in another lie when you said they aren't.

Ask leen what happened mate, she is known on the forum as leen93, you can PM her. As I said earlier the other investor - who opposed publishing the address - is still with us, but a few others withdrew as well.

As for the stats I agree with you, should we open the investment part again in the future, we will take care of showing current investments and divests and not accumulated results.
legendary
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Merit: 1333
leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

So if I invest 1 BTC then divest it, and repeat 1000 times, it will show that I have invested 1000 BTC?

That's retarded. Why would you design it like that?

All anyone cares about is the amount people currently have invested, not a sum of all their comings and goings.

It's hard to believe that anyone would design a stats page that shows the total of all invests without also showing the total of all divests. What would be the point? What would it mean?

It seems more likely to me that those two users are still invested and you have been caught in another lie when you said they aren't.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People all us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....
We come back to the Ponzi discussion. Being insolvent, makes you just like a Ponzi. You will be able to accept withdrawal request and also will be able to make some. But at the end , you will be insolvent, and there will be some users who won't get their money back.

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
DaDice Administration
how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.
most probably they dont have even half of it thats why they cant show it, there are no other reasons i can think of

At least we have enough to honor all our payments due.

Just prove it. It's not that hard..

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People call us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....
sr. member
Activity: 252
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DaDice Administration
how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.
legendary
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how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.
most probably they dont have even half of it thats why they cant show it, there are no other reasons i can think of

At least we have enough to honor all our payments due.

Just prove it. It's not that hard..
sr. member
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Merit: 250
DaDice Administration
Da Dice, Never played at your site, but it seems silly and will ultimately lead to ur demise that you dont make certain things public. Especially when the likes of dooglus and stunna suggest you make cold storage public.

My wild guess is they used invertor funds to bankroll sig campaigns and other such advertising. I also believe this was a long term scam from the start.

Why ppl play away from the 2 or 3 most trusted sites is beyond me.

Also if I may add we no longer offer the investment option to the public as stated earlier today and has been repeated at numerous times since. As such that argument cannot hold any weight
how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right? If so then the argument is just as valid as it was previously. You stopping accepting additional investments is a moot thing to do because no one in their right mind would invest additional money with you at this point.

No we don't have, check our bankroll. Apart from what is called dust investors here and the one I've mentioned yesterday who was opposed to publishing any cold wallet address, the rest withdrew already.
The last time your hit wallet sent a transaction was yesterday at 3:04 PM GMT which is roughly 27 hours ago. The last time the wallet containing customer deposits sent a transaction was yesterday at ~11:30 AM GMT.

I don't see any signs of processing any withdrawals (even from small investors) in the last day unless you processed them from addresses that are not public/known.

You are again and again are posting fud here. Mate, realize it, you are not having all our wallet addresses. We are receiving deposits and are processing withdrawals many times every hour. Why don't you stop trolling here and find the truth. Go to our chat and asked people there if they withdrew or deposited. You might get a shock dude....
newbie
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Why is it that if they do not give into your demands that they are labeled as a scam site. Surely the opinion of the investor is more important to any business than the public opinion. If you walk into any major casino and demand proof of their solvency they will laugh at you.

You say that you gave them a chance, but you have in actual fact not done so. Give them the opportunity to do so in their own way and in their own time, not based on your demands. No one was coerced into investing there. No one is coerced to play there. The people who continue to use this site are doing it of their own free will.

This is a very new site, problems will crop up and I am sure they will deal with those problems when they crop up. Digging up the same old bone to inspect will not give you answers. It will make anyone dig their heels in.

As for the competition that keeps coming here to give their two cents worth, you should be ashamed. Go to your own threads and focus on your advertising there. Stop trying to throw your weight around and prance around like little lordlings. Everyone has had the chance to give their negative/positive opinions. Leave it at that now. DaDice will show their colours in due time. Not, on your demand


sr. member
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DaDice Administration
how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.
most probably they dont have even half of it thats why they cant show it, there are no other reasons i can think of

At least we have enough to honor all our payments due.
newbie
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Merit: 0
how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS
see you think this is proof. What you don't see is how many times these players withdrew there investments and reinvested. I could invest 20btc and divest it and invest another 40btc and divest it. This would show my investment as 60btc. Stop trying to find your so called proof from nothing.
copper member
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how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS
It looks like their stats reflect that leen did in fact cash out. The other investor most likely did not.
hero member
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how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

Come on, your English is really bad, English is my second language but I am sure my English is even better than you, I guess you are a native speaker, right?

it's "invested", not "investing", it is past sense, dude. You said they invested right now? You mean they are investing 100 btc now?? LMAO.

So it means they invested or have invested 100btc, so they invested, withdrew, and invested again and again.

Your proof is illogical and you were very careless, dude. Grin
legendary
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how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS
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I might be being dumb here but somebody help me out.....
Da Dice have now disabled the investor option so it's all a moot point but even if they have had people invest & some of the money invested has gone on paying for website development, signature campaigns to help the site grow why is that a problem?
If that was the case then investors who maybe made a deal for 10% of profits will benefit in the long run any way.
I don't understand what else an investor would be needed for any way.

Fledgling businesses always spend investors money on developing their business.
The investors benefit in the long run.
Have you guys ever seen 'Dragons Den' TV show in the UK?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/hsz0Z9sRDbrgL6Bs6BLpdK/the-dragons
Check in on youtube too.

Investment wise what are we talking about any way, what sort of quantity?
Like Da Dice have said no withdrawals have ever failed or been refused, I think everybody needs to calm down & leave them to get on with running their business.


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Da Dice, Never played at your site, but it seems silly and will ultimately lead to ur demise that you dont make certain things public. Especially when the likes of dooglus and stunna suggest you make cold storage public.

My wild guess is they used invertor funds to bankroll sig campaigns and other such advertising. I also believe this was a long term scam from the start.

Why ppl play away from the 2 or 3 most trusted sites is beyond me.

Also if I may add we no longer offer the investment option to the public as stated earlier today and has been repeated at numerous times since. As such that argument cannot hold any weight
how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right? If so then the argument is just as valid as it was previously. You stopping accepting additional investments is a moot thing to do because no one in their right mind would invest additional money with you at this point.

No we don't have, check our bankroll. Apart from what is called dust investors here and the one I've mentioned yesterday who was opposed to publishing any cold wallet address, the rest withdrew already.
The last time your hit wallet sent a transaction was yesterday at 3:04 PM GMT which is roughly 27 hours ago. The last time the wallet containing customer deposits sent a transaction was yesterday at ~11:30 AM GMT.

I don't see any signs of processing any withdrawals (even from small investors) in the last day unless you processed them from addresses that are not public/known.
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