Topic: Danydee ban "appeal" - Please permaban (Read 1396 times)

If I tell you that is not your business, you are going to claiming what ? 

Grosse ! 

Mine is staying until I see actual improvement.

I simply wanted to document what you witnessed. Can you give me a hint?

Thanks.

I'm told the issue has been resolved so I removed the red trust. Hopefully that means he's growing up but I'm not holding my breath.

You mention another threat in your Feedback, which you reference to this thread. I see some posts have been removed. Did you archive it by any chance?

Or maybe I need to learn how to uses Loyce's viewer one day...

This guy also applied to be merit source in his so called merit source application topic.
Looks to me that his story will not end up so nice here, if he continues like this 

Like I give a shit. Posting a death threat on pastebin or whatever it was doesn't make it any better. If you can't refrain from doing that to other users you need to be labeled accordingly. Ideally by getting a permaban but in this case a red trust rating will have to suffice.

It is. And it's not the topic of that thread. Seriously.

@saint-loup,

I strongly believe you should post in reputation about this matter. This has nothing to do in this topic.

Please stop derailing this thread. It is not meant to discuss your problems.

For what it's worth, looking at the feedback just before yoggs will provide you some information on the why.

Thanks.
Yes it is indeed a good idea.
That won't remove the impression of being a big mess to a 1st time visitor, but heh, not my problem.

I am considering to completely remove the French sub-local from my Bitcointalk view.
It's like a vortex sucking me out of my time and energy.

I care, but in the end it isn't my problem if newbies are misinformed;
nowadays my contributions to Bitcoin are going far beyond any kind of reply to a sub local board.

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Indeed. No comment.
This quote comes from a thread; and is within the flow of replies after this post :



Brandolini law's in practice.

Baseless, personal attack after personal attack. It's happening very regularly.
All I tried to do is to vulgarize concepts for a newbie to get a hold of them.

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Alright, so explaining Bitcoin to newbies on Bitcointalk is being religious.
This guy Yaplatu is among the handful of users shitposting all around the French board.

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Yesterday I cared about the French local section to be relevant, to report off-topic, to remain clear and a good entry points for newcomers to get on their crypto journey.

But that doesn't work, it is impossible.

I do not know the situation in other local boards, but I've had enough.

https://translate.google.fr/#view=home&op=translate&sl=fr&tl=en&text=Je%20m'attend

No comment

Thanks for the context. Looks like "Ignore" could help if/when he comes back after the temp ban. Seems to be shitposting for attention.

You can think that any sequence of words can imply anything, alright. We got it.
That is your right, and it constitutes your own personal opinion.

No need to repeat your point over and over.

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I'll add some more context to how exactly the death threat happened, diving a bit into how the French local section functions.
Every now and then, threads get derailed.

Someone (usually the same handful of users) replies off-topic, and someone else replies to that point, further derailing the thread.

When it gets that far away from OP to become a whole new thread, Halab has been splitting these threads into new ones.
Usually the new-born split threads are in "Off-topic".


That's a screen of the 2nd page from the Off-topic board.
It happens quite often. Just browse through pages.

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Originally the topic was about "Public keys/private keys", in the "Beginner" section : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cles-publiques-cles-privees-5250790

It was started by a Newbie user who just arrived to Bitcointalk. Similar events happened in other threads started by different Newbie users curious about BTC.

What happened after my last reply in that thread can be found here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hs-0-5252074

It starts with Danydee question me about my relationship to "mamache" ? (originally in the Newbie thread about keys)

In the flow of replies, I posted the following : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54526771
Which translates to :



And in the same post came the pastebin with the death threat.

I replied with laughter, we carried on for a few posts. Then Halab split and locked the thread.

Danydee then renamed it, moved it somewhere in US boards, to move it back to "Off-topic", rename it "Your mom the beggar" and now it's named "HS 0".

The following day, the gore image popped, with the poll questioning "What does it inspires you ?".

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Also .. How is the following relevant to Danydee's ban appeal thread ?
Why does it comes first in the post ? Why make his ban appeal a personal thing ? Is it a sick way to further push threats ?


The picture is irrelevant to the thread, but it is relevant to Bitcoin as it has the Bitcoin logo on it.

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I am concerned that with this user roaming around the board freely, it will remain very difficult to converse and get new users interested in the French local board.

Today, as Saint-Loup's contributions show, the french board suffers from the Brandolini's law.
("The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.")

Danydee demonstrates it perfectly and this is why I believe it would be a net benefit not to have him around.

I disagree with you but I don't call you a troll, gentleman. I'm sorry if my point of view offends you, but as I said earlier, it's my point of view.
I don't think the rule only applies to banned members. I think the rule implies that appeal is not open to everybody but is only reserved to banned members
And that it would be unfair if not.

Yes, I think Danydee should be banned for ban evasion. He replied to this thread, which wasn't even in Meta originally. Perhaps nobody reported, or mods didn't think it's worthy of a ban, not sure.


Ok, now you're just taking the piss. The "third person" (asche in this case) is not banned so obviously the rule about banned users doesn't apply to them. They can create any thread about anything they want as long as they don't break any rules.


I'm sorry, I'll stop feeding the troll.

I wasn't talking about that anymore but Suchmoon absolutely wants to talk about this subject and now seems to ask for a ban not for death threats but for ban evasion, as I understand.   At the risk of setting a precedent...

@Suchmoon : the rule doesn't say that a third person has the right to "appeal" either

Which means nothing since it was a pre merit account.

Again you've stated your offtopic opinion. Please start another thread if you want to keep derailing from the topic, which is, does Danydee deserve a permaban for his doings. Period.

Thank you.

Yes, there is a very simple reason. If you're banned you're not allowed to make posts or send PMs, and there is only one exception to that.


By that logic should everyone be allowed to defend themselves when their post is reported before mods make a decision on it? What does this have to do with being a Legendary?

Mods make a decision. The perp can then appeal if they think the decision is wrong. In this case Danydee already has a ban appeal thread so he surely knows the process and there is no excuse for ban evasion.

I've already explained my point of view Suchmoon, and I think it is pretty clear. If this kind of "appeals" are allowed, there is no reason to not allow the accused to be able to defend himself against it. It's an universal democratic principle. Even in North Korea people are allowed to defend themselves, at least in theory.
You say he could defend himself after his 7 days ban, but the "appeal" could also be made after this 7 days...(I'm not talking about random newbie/brand new members here -he's legendary-)

Sounds like you just happened to luck out with this troll, and though your experience with him was relatively benign he obviously likes to poke members with sticks, so to speak.  That's what trolls do, and he seems like a fairly aggressive one at that.  I'm not one of those lawmakers, but I think the dude should be permabanned.  The crap he's pulled justifies it, plus I doubt he's the type of member who would learn anything after just being banned for just a short period of time.

Trolls usually don't.

He can defend himself after his 7-day ban expires or he can defend himself in the thread that he already created. The rule is very clear:


A banned member is not allowed to reply to anything else, involving them or not, good or bad, doesn't matter. Granted the enforcement of ban evasion has always been a bit of a joke when it comes to most egregious trolls so he might be able to avoid the ban here, but it would be quite ridiculous to add to the already very generous rule by disallowing discussion of banned users just because they can't reply.