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legendary
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June 17, 2016, 04:10:46 PM
#46
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
June 17, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
#45
BTC is 7 years old, decentralized and never had a rollback because of stolen coins, never had satoshi acting like a dictator frozing funds on an exchange to avoid panic selling.

ETH is fucked beyond salvation, only 1 year after.

and..

Bitcoin is a currency ..Ethereum is NOT !

and..

Bitcoin was not launched as an ICO scam !

and..

Ethereum was bought up by scammy millionaires for a P&D later back on launch day.

and..

Satoshi never dumped 25% million+ of ETH on the masses like V. Butterin did !



..game over .

Indeed, this is looking really, really bad for ETH holders. Im so lucky I was able to sell my ETH right before Poloniex frozen them.

DAO will likely not recover from this , even eth is dropping like a stone
hopefully there is not more hacks they have not found out about yet .........
legendary
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legendary
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June 17, 2016, 11:11:02 AM
#43
BTC is 7 years old, decentralized and never had a rollback because of stolen coins, never had satoshi acting like a dictator frozing funds on an exchange to avoid panic selling.

ETH is fucked beyond salvation, only 1 year after.

and..

Bitcoin is a currency ..Ethereum is NOT !

and..

Bitcoin was not launched as an ICO scam !

and..

Ethereum was bought up by scammy millionaires for a P&D later back on launch day.

and..

Satoshi never dumped 25% million+ of ETH on the masses like V. Butterin did !



..game over .

Indeed, this is looking really, really bad for ETH holders. Im so lucky I was able to sell my ETH right before Poloniex frozen them.
member
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Merit: 10
June 17, 2016, 11:09:24 AM
#42
It's only until he rolls back the chain, then it'll be us bitcoin holders' turn to start panicking. Undecided
No. As soon as they do something like that, it proves that the statement of this coin being beyond the influence of 'governments' and whatnot was a lie.

looks like DAO is going to simply open for withdrawals thats it. Or is that just fud?
If by simply you mean doing a change that is the equivalent to coin control (which is frowned upon) in a decentralized system (which isn't decentralized anymore), then yes.

Remember when bitcoin hard forked multiple times because someone created 9 billion bitcoins?  Oh you don't? That's because you're a pesky noob

Hahaha you're... you're crazy, man. I like you, but you're crazy..



Eth is fucked.  Proof-of-Vitalik centralized fail, scam, ipo, its all facts.  All principles go out the door when you reverse transactions from theft. They should take the hit in the market, and rebuild like the system was designed for. Don't reverse transactions and tarnish the entire meaning of crypto. hahaha fail.
Fiat fail, fedcoin fail, hehehe
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
June 17, 2016, 11:01:36 AM
#41
BTC is 7 years old, decentralized and never had a rollback because of stolen coins, never had satoshi acting like a dictator frozing funds on an exchange to avoid panic selling.

ETH is fucked beyond salvation, only 1 year after.

and..

Bitcoin is a currency ..Ethereum is NOT !

and..

Bitcoin was not launched as an ICO scam !

and..

Ethereum was bought up by scammy millionaires for a P&D later back on launch day.

and..

Satoshi never dumped 25% million+ of ETH on the masses like V. Butterin did !



..game over .
legendary
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Merit: 1028
June 17, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
#40
BTC is 7 years old, decentralized and never had a rollback because of stolen coins, never had satoshi acting like a dictator frozing funds on an exchange to avoid panic selling.

ETH is fucked beyond salvation, only 1 year after.
legendary
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Merit: 1048
June 17, 2016, 10:15:12 AM
#39
btc UP because money does need to go somewhere when the air is being let out from ETH

There are high volume btc/eth markets that have been see sawing the price of both coins. If eth goes down bitcoin often goes up because of those markets. If eth hard forks those eth locked in the DAO will get released around about the bitcoin block halving date. If they get dumped for bitcoin it could pump bitcoin much higher.

Methinks people that saw a safe haven in eth and it's dao tokens, may want to rethink that strategy ATM. Btc is king of the roost for the moment, eth just blew it for a while with this.
Remember when bitcoin hard forked multiple times because someone created 9 billion bitcoins?  Oh you don't?
False analogy. Stop defending altcoin which don't deserve defending. In this specific hack, no additional coins were created (which was the case with Bitcoin), neither were the specifications altered. Read:



Amen. This is directed governance. To hell with a distributed, anonymous version of this.
legendary
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Terminated.
June 17, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
#38
Remember when bitcoin hard forked multiple times because someone created 9 billion bitcoins?  Oh you don't?
False analogy. Stop defending altcoin which don't deserve defending. In this specific hack, no additional coins were created (which was the case with Bitcoin), neither were the specifications altered. Read:


That's because you're a pesky noob
Resorting to ad hominem when you don't have proper arguments?
newbie
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Merit: 0
June 17, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
#37
btc UP because money does need to go somewhere when the air is being let out from ETH

There are high volume btc/eth markets that have been see sawing the price of both coins. If eth goes down bitcoin often goes up because of those markets. If eth hard forks those eth locked in the DAO will get released around about the bitcoin block halving date. If they get dumped for bitcoin it could pump bitcoin much higher.
sr. member
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FREEDOM RESERVE
June 17, 2016, 10:01:11 AM
#36
It's only until he rolls back the chain, then it'll be us bitcoin holders' turn to start panicking. Undecided
No. As soon as they do something like that, it proves that the statement of this coin being beyond the influence of 'governments' and whatnot was a lie.

looks like DAO is going to simply open for withdrawals thats it. Or is that just fud?
If by simply you mean doing a change that is the equivalent to coin control (which is frowned upon) in a decentralized system (which isn't decentralized anymore), then yes.

Remember when bitcoin hard forked multiple times because someone created 9 billion bitcoins?  Oh you don't? That's because you're a pesky noob
hero member
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June 17, 2016, 09:23:26 AM
#35
btc UP because money does need to go somewhere when the air is being let out from ETH
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 09:11:29 AM
#34
So the DAO is getting drained as we speak. 150 million investment into crypto gone just like that.

So how will this effect the bitcoin price?

It won't help the bitcoin price. Bitcoin needs other coins to remain high and then sold into bitcoin. Also, any mention of hacking puts off members of the general public off all cryptos.
legendary
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Terminated.
June 17, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
#33
It's only until he rolls back the chain, then it'll be us bitcoin holders' turn to start panicking. Undecided
No. As soon as they do something like that, it proves that the statement of this coin being beyond the influence of 'governments' and whatnot was a lie.

looks like DAO is going to simply open for withdrawals thats it. Or is that just fud?
If by simply you mean doing a change that is the equivalent to coin control (which is frowned upon) in a decentralized system (which isn't decentralized anymore), then yes.
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 08:59:04 AM
#32
looks like DAO is going to simply open for withdrawals thats it. Or is that just fud?
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 06:51:09 AM
#30
I don't want to laugh at their misfortune, but that is exactly why I don't like altcoins. They are too unstable, too unpredictable and too risky.
It is sad that people instead of focusing on making the best digital currency even better want to waste time and effort on possible pump and dump altcoin schemes.

More Info about this case here: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ether-price-plumets-ethereum-dao-may-be-hacked/


Gulden is the only real project I see but in crypto it's only scams and ponzi schemes that get pushed. This is why the central bank fiat system will still win even with it's flaws because the people pushing these alt scams are worse then the central banksters.

Anyways if Gulden ends up failing I will just keep the btc I have and rather invest in physical Gold and Silver.
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
June 17, 2016, 06:43:53 AM
#29
they maybe able to hard fork so the hacker can not spend the funds ive just read ..........
maybe all hope is not lost yet .......but still a nervous time for DAO/ETH users all the same...
some threads on reddit say the DAO is still being drained ...........
sr. member
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June 17, 2016, 06:36:11 AM
#28
So the DAO is getting drained as we speak. 150 million investment into crypto gone just like that.

So how will this effect the bitcoin price?

Why do all the OP starting new threads on the DAO exploit mention Ethereum? - there are no exploits or attacks ongoing with Etherium.




u should probably check the news ...........eth/dao took a beating aboput 2hrs ago worth about 50 mil usd

I have checked the news and I understand that as Eths biggest smart contract DAO is dragging on price of ETH. However when starting new threads on DAO hack it is disingenuous to talk of an Eth hack.

Not that I have any ETH - but an ETH catastrophe would set the ALTs back years - even if it is caused by market sentiment due to the DAO issue and not any inherent problem with Eth itself.
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
June 17, 2016, 06:28:46 AM
#27
So the DAO is getting drained as we speak. 150 million investment into crypto gone just like that.

So how will this effect the bitcoin price?

Why do all the OP starting new threads on the DAO exploit mention Ethereum? - there are no exploits or attacks ongoing with Etherium.




u should probably check the news ...........eth/dao took a beating aboput 2hrs ago worth about 50 mil usd
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