Topic: Dareq = Scammer - page 2. (Read 7611 times)
Maybe a new tag should be added for those who have allegations of being a scammer, that links to the related thread
I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days. If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.
Assuming that people actually read the other threads on this board.
No, assuming that they would read the thread where he is actually doing the selling though. Nothing but warnings and links to this thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-bitcoins-for-paypal-68006
Rushing to mark people as scammers has resulted in premature judgements in the past.
That thread gives no warning when you go to the user's profile. Nor does that thread give any warning when he PM's users, who didn't first read the thread.
Wouldn't the simple solution be to have some kind of tag next to his profile name so it's quite apparent to everyone dealing with him that he may be untrustworthy ?
Nah...we'll just let this go on for a couple more days and hope no one gets burned. Might as well just get rid of the scammer tag all together then.
Rushing to mark people as scammers has resulted in premature judgements in the past.
What is this. I don't even.
Were your ears burning?
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Rushing to mark people as scammers has resulted in premature judgements in the past.
What is this. I don't even.
I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days. If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.
Assuming that people actually read the other threads on this board.
No, assuming that they would read the thread where he is actually doing the selling though. Nothing but warnings and links to this thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-bitcoins-for-paypal-68006
Rushing to mark people as scammers has resulted in premature judgements in the past.
If I open my kitchen cupboard and find a cockroach scurrying around under there, I can choose to wait until he flits out of sight and pretend the problem has gone away.
Or I can solve the problem. Stomp his little cockroach ass to death, gas him, hit him with a hammer or whatever, just fix the problem. Then my naive little dog who loves to poke his head under kitchen cabinet won't eat the cockroach.
We have a cockroach here. Waiting a couple of days to see if he wants to stop being a cockroach isn't the answer. Let's clean up our kitchen. Label dareq as a scammer, or stomp his little cockroach ass right off the forum, it matters not, but let's not pretend that this scummy little piece of work is going to change his tune because we are waiting.
Protecting our own world is a shared responsibility. We have seen the cockroach, now if we do nothing, we are as guilty as he is.
Or I can solve the problem. Stomp his little cockroach ass to death, gas him, hit him with a hammer or whatever, just fix the problem. Then my naive little dog who loves to poke his head under kitchen cabinet won't eat the cockroach.
We have a cockroach here. Waiting a couple of days to see if he wants to stop being a cockroach isn't the answer. Let's clean up our kitchen. Label dareq as a scammer, or stomp his little cockroach ass right off the forum, it matters not, but let's not pretend that this scummy little piece of work is going to change his tune because we are waiting.
Protecting our own world is a shared responsibility. We have seen the cockroach, now if we do nothing, we are as guilty as he is.
I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days. If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.
Assuming that people actually read the other threads on this board.
Seriously. If someone is naive enough to deal with him, do you really think they are familiar with the way things work here and read EVERY thread?
I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days. If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.
Assuming that people actually read the other threads on this board.
Seriously. If someone is naive enough to deal with him, do you really think they are familiar with the way things work here and read EVERY thread?
I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days. If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.
Assuming that people actually read the other threads on this board.
I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days. If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.
Just get the mods to tag him as a scammer, post his IP and let it be done.
I've already talked to theymos, scammer tag is a certainty, he's just giving it a couple days to see if he changes his mind.
BULLSHIT!
I'm sorry guys, but that is a couple MORE days too late. This was an obvious scammer from day one. It was pointed out by everyone who read his initial threads and participated in his garbage "I have a secret way to make sure only I can lose" thread.
There was not one legit member of this community who accepted dareq's foolishness, and yet our Mods and Admins want to "wait a couple of days"
Why, so some other poor dumb bastard can get taken by this piece of shit? So he can come here with some alternate identity and pull the same shit with Moneybookers or Amazon gift cards or some other technique?HE IS A FUCKING SCAMMER- TAG HIM AS SUCH. Have the stones to actually do something pro-fucking-active for the community, instead of playing to see if dareq's conscience will get the better of him- IT WON'T. If he makes restitution to Potave, and is confirmed by Potave, then consider removing the SCAMMER tag- but do the right thing here.
Or stop pretending that you give a shit and will take action.
Who said anything about the FBI? Are you fucking crazy?
Dareq/Barbara is on Poland, Potave is French I suppose. It's an European matter. WE don't give a fuck about the FBI. Please stop being US-centric. I'm sure there is some EU authority to deal with fraud over the internet.
Dareq/Barbara is on Poland, Potave is French I suppose. It's an European matter. WE don't give a fuck about the FBI. Please stop being US-centric. I'm sure there is some EU authority to deal with fraud over the internet.
Just get the mods to tag him as a scammer, post his IP and let it be done.
I've already talked to theymos, scammer tag is a certainty, he's just giving it a couple days to see if he changes his mind.
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FBI doesn't work in petty crimes.
I wasn't referring to this one in particular.
The FBI will work on cases where the value was over $2000, atleast for credit card fraud. I'm pretty sure many scammers have scammed the community of more than $2000 and got away. Whats the total on the bitcoin london dude? (if he is a scammer)
No clue. I think the saying stays true though:
"One ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
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We really should take a scammer on here to court and send a message to all the others.
Lock 'em up and throw away the key.
Lock 'em up and throw away the key.
Court cases require evidence.
Evidence needs to be classified as evidence by legal representatives of law enforcement (i.e. cyber investigation squad).
FBI doesn't work in petty crimes.
TL;DR: Not gonna happen. In Bitcoin, we decide our own risk.
Just get the mods to tag him as a scammer, post his IP and let it be done.
I am assuming he doesn't have any for sale in the first place. Just another bottom feeding scammer.
Usually an EFT reversal can only be requested within 5 days of the transaction. There are usually fees involved as well.
The amount also has to be the exact amount that was debited.
Some banks won't even do an EFT reversal against Paypal.
I bet he doesn't even have any BTC to sell. Someone should make a verification service for people wanting to sell BTC. They have to transfer X amount of bitcoins in good faith to a trusted member.(at least as many as they are offering for sale) The trusted member would then return the coins and verify that the person offering coins actually has them in stock.
The amount also has to be the exact amount that was debited.
Some banks won't even do an EFT reversal against Paypal.
I bet he doesn't even have any BTC to sell. Someone should make a verification service for people wanting to sell BTC. They have to transfer X amount of bitcoins in good faith to a trusted member.(at least as many as they are offering for sale) The trusted member would then return the coins and verify that the person offering coins actually has them in stock.
Yup, Paypal only does full refunds when the account has no money if it was an ebay purchase.
Potave, wait for paypal resolution, and if they don't give you your money back in full, ask your bank to do a chargeback.
Potave, wait for paypal resolution, and if they don't give you your money back in full, ask your bank to do a chargeback.
PayPal will refund OP the full amount because I already had situation like this and they always do.
Pay up.
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.633446
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