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legendary
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July 20, 2017, 04:21:51 PM
#11
Definitely an endless game of cat and mouse.
Compare it to a hydra, you cut one of its heads off and multiple ones will appear in its place.

I was already thinking that the current markets have been around for too long, you just can't expect to avoid justice forever.

Agora did it the right way, they stayed for a couple of months, maybe a year and made a gracious exit without scamming anyone.
That's how it should be done, don't stay in the game too long!

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Is there a decentralised one yet?
Openbazaar? Wouldn't that be suitable for illicit purposes? Is TOR support already implemented? Sorry haven't really been following development for the last couple of months.
full member
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July 20, 2017, 04:21:18 PM
#10
And here's an interesting titbit -

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/business/dealbook/alphabay-dark-web-opioids.html?mcubz=1

'Officials said they had found Mr. Cazes because he posted his personal email address, [email protected], in some early messages from AlphaBay.'

Exactly the same balls up as Ross Ulbricht. What is it with these people?



Ulbricht was slightly different.They found one of his achived messages.Who checks every site and archive services for their private information? But this guy signed up on AlphaBay with his e-mail and I guess he noticed after months that password recovery pages sends a mail with an header includes his adress. I mean both should have been more carefull ofcourse but Ulbricht was unlucky, Cazes was stupid ( the guy's email adress is [email protected] which it speaks for it self.).
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July 20, 2017, 03:56:50 PM
#9
there will always be a cat and mouse game between the feds and people who need to buy drugs and other stuff. while I don't get how people order drugs on the web... I mean the records eventually stay and you always have to worry about the feds kicking your door in, but well as long there is demand people will try to create a webshop for it
hero member
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July 20, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
#8
Yeah, well I say there's not enough bullshit tokens made on the Ethereum blockchain, so we need a decentralised dark net market on it.  We should raise about $100 million dollars for the ICO, then mysteriously disappear under the guise of being taken down by law enforcement.
Anyways, I don't really think this is Bitcoin discussion or that it will have an effect on Bitcoin...
A large amount of BTC adoption is on dark net markets.  It's not all of BTC's adoption, but that's the only major place I can think of where everyone accepts BTC and no one accepts fiat.

The "war on drugs" doesn't work anyway.  All this means is that more people move over to Dream Market or something.  Then if Dream Market gets taken down, they'll go somewhere else.

If the situation for dark net market users becomes so dire that they have to leap between markets ten times a day, that's when a decentralised market will pop up.  I'm sure it's possible if people are desperate enough.  In the meantime, dark net markets will just be losing credibility because of states seizing everyone's coins.



legendary
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Welt Am Draht
July 20, 2017, 03:19:30 PM
#7
And here's an interesting titbit -

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/business/dealbook/alphabay-dark-web-opioids.html?mcubz=1

'Officials said they had found Mr. Cazes because he posted his personal email address, [email protected], in some early messages from AlphaBay.'

Exactly the same balls up as Ross Ulbricht. What is it with these people?

sr. member
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July 20, 2017, 02:17:28 PM
#6
This is no issue, when two of these sites close down, four pop up... With some "luck" even these websites pop up with the same name again in a few days or their staff create another one. Pretty usual in these kinds of things, just have a look at Silk Road and its numerous spinoffs.

Anyways, I don't really think this is Bitcoin discussion or that it will have an effect on Bitcoin...

You are quite right. I think too, that it will not effect BTC Price, but actually this thread can be discussed here, cause even through BTC is still much used at black markets. So it is relevant
legendary
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July 20, 2017, 01:41:21 PM
#5
When silkroad was taken down alphabay pops up to be the number one marketplace on darkweb. And now when it also got turned off there will be few more that will take place of alphabay soon.

I think it is endless chase between cat and mouse.  Grin
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July 20, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
#4
All there is a black market to be discussed by bitcoin, because there is an effect that approximates bitcoin
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
July 20, 2017, 12:08:35 PM
#3
Anyways, I don't really think this is Bitcoin discussion or that it will have an effect on Bitcoin...

I think it is relevant. Even though they're a lot quieter than they once were, and wisely so, they must still be driving a fair amount of BTC volume. Somewhere like Alphabay must've had several hundred thousand users and that means Bitcoin users.
legendary
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July 20, 2017, 12:04:23 PM
#2
This is no issue, when two of these sites close down, four pop up... With some "luck" even these websites pop up with the same name again in a few days or their staff create another one. Pretty usual in these kinds of things, just have a look at Silk Road and its numerous spinoffs.

Anyways, I don't really think this is Bitcoin discussion or that it will have an effect on Bitcoin...
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
July 20, 2017, 11:36:10 AM
#1
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/massive-blow-to-criminal-dark-web-activities-after-globally-coordinated-operation

So Alphabay is a well known goner. As above the Dutch police took control of Hansa for a while before nabbing as many details as possible and closing it down.

Is this going to majorly disrupt dark markets or will it be an endless game of cat and mouse? Is there a decentralised one yet?
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