Topic: Dark Net Weapons Bust Leads To 17 Arrests and a $80,000 Bitcoin Seizure - page 2. (Read 2375 times)
May 17, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
Bitcoin helped some Australians be able to exercise their infringed human right to self-defense? WAH! Imprison them all!
May 17, 2015, 09:37:01 PM
While on it's face this kind of headline does make bitcoin look bad (it makes it look like it is only used for trading in illegal things), I think if you read between the lines that you will see that this demonstrates that commerce can be transacted without any kind of geographical limit, and that without putting in a lot of effort, it is difficult to determine the identity of someone using bitcoin by just looking at the blockchain
May 17, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
A recent series of busts has shaken the world of dark net weapons commerce. A six-month joint investigation between law enforcement in Australia and the United States, which involved law enforcement going undercover as weapons dealers, has resulted in 17 arrests internationally.
In September 2014, the US Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) identified a 33-year-old US-based dark net seller of weapons to a “worldwide client base,” according to a press release from the Australian Federal Police (AFP).
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dark-net-weapons-bust-leads-17-arrests-80000-bitcoin-seizure/
These things will not help bitcoin to go mainstream, I also know you can (maybe) do these things also with all the FIAT currencies... but people like to use bitcoin....
In September 2014, the US Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) identified a 33-year-old US-based dark net seller of weapons to a “worldwide client base,” according to a press release from the Australian Federal Police (AFP).
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dark-net-weapons-bust-leads-17-arrests-80000-bitcoin-seizure/
These things will not help bitcoin to go mainstream, I also know you can (maybe) do these things also with all the FIAT currencies... but people like to use bitcoin....
Why aren't those guys using Monero? they would be more anonymous for their criminal shit and would leave us non-criminals that just want to enjoy the benefits of Bitcoin or the fiat scam free of negative press. How many more arrests until they learn?
Brash generalization, Monero being private/anonymous doesn't mean it's for illegal use only(You can also be transparent).
May 17, 2015, 12:59:13 PM
Only $80,000? Either these guys were small time or the feds didn't get the entire stash. I'm thinking the latter.
Makes me think, when they bust criminals and get fiat, they don't post the bills up for auction... I'm wondering how long until they decide to stop auctioning off seized bitcoins.
Makes me think, when they bust criminals and get fiat, they don't post the bills up for auction... I'm wondering how long until they decide to stop auctioning off seized bitcoins.
May 17, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
So who's the ATF agent that was in charge of this op? Check his financials I bet he stole a few thousand BTC and tried to set up the dealer for murder-for-hire. You know that's how they do 
That was only because Curtis Green is Afro-American.
May 17, 2015, 12:44:47 PM
It seems that adding "Bitcoin" to the title of an article makes it all the more exciting and dangerous.
I think these guys enjoying giving bad press with Bitcoin with this kind of shit. Bitcoin next to negative thing = average joe ignores it and hurts BTC. I myself got scammed by the mainstream media in the early days when they said BTC was a coin for criminals, which made me ignore it, so I ended up missing the low price, all thanks to them. May 17, 2015, 12:19:28 PM
maybe that bitcoins they will use for an auction. Its the new model of fudding them pockets. Meow!
May 17, 2015, 12:08:39 PM
I'm not surprised at all. Eventually almost everyone gets caught (I said almost). They definitely aren't doing enough to keep themselves safe.
Actually the only problem here is that they are getting caught, else it would be helping Bitcoin go mainstream.
Actually the only problem here is that they are getting caught, else it would be helping Bitcoin go mainstream.
Quite the contrary. I doubt if LE can catch more than 10% of criminals. (which is on the level of drug bust estimates)
May 17, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
$2,500 for a Walther PPK/S .380 calibre pistol and a silencer! The guy didn't know how to shop, you can get a decent gun for way less.
The sale was made in Australia which virtually has a complete gun ban. It takes 6 months of a sport shooting club membership to be eligible to purchase a handgun that will be strictly used for sport shooting.
May 17, 2015, 11:25:09 AM
A recent series of busts has shaken the world of dark net weapons commerce. A six-month joint investigation between law enforcement in Australia and the United States, which involved law enforcement going undercover as weapons dealers, has resulted in 17 arrests internationally.
In September 2014, the US Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) identified a 33-year-old US-based dark net seller of weapons to a “worldwide client base,” according to a press release from the Australian Federal Police (AFP).
....
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dark-net-weapons-bust-leads-17-arrests-80000-bitcoin-seizure/
These things will not help bitcoin to go mainstream, I also know you can (maybe) do these things also with all the FIAT currencies... but people like to use bitcoin....
In September 2014, the US Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) identified a 33-year-old US-based dark net seller of weapons to a “worldwide client base,” according to a press release from the Australian Federal Police (AFP).
....
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dark-net-weapons-bust-leads-17-arrests-80000-bitcoin-seizure/
These things will not help bitcoin to go mainstream, I also know you can (maybe) do these things also with all the FIAT currencies... but people like to use bitcoin....
Why aren't those guys using Monero? they would be more anonymous for their criminal shit and would leave us non-criminals that just want to enjoy the benefits of Bitcoin or the fiat scam free of negative press. How many more arrests until they learn?
May 17, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
$2,500 for a Walther PPK/S .380 calibre pistol and a silencer! The guy didn't know how to shop, you can get a decent gun for way less.
May 17, 2015, 10:49:05 AM
It seems that adding "Bitcoin" to the title of an article makes it all the more exciting and dangerous.
May 17, 2015, 10:16:35 AM
yeah 80k, is not even 400 bitcoin, if they were planning to dump, the market would have absorbed it without a scratch
those were probably little fishes, i'm still waiting the announcement about the arrest of hackers like the one of bitstamp, or the one of bter
those were probably little fishes, i'm still waiting the announcement about the arrest of hackers like the one of bitstamp, or the one of bter
May 17, 2015, 10:12:02 AM
Bitcoin barely used in black market compared to other currencies
So, why people said bitcoin is bad thing ? How about dollar, it's being used for black market
Also, $80,000 is small volume
So, why people said bitcoin is bad thing ? How about dollar, it's being used for black market
Also, $80,000 is small volume
May 17, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
It makes me laugh when people say bitcoin is a bad thing because of stories like this.
Bitcoin is used to buy weapons & drugs?
What % of weapon trading & the worldwide drug market is bitcoin involved in?
I don't have facts & figures but the answer will be absolutely minimal.
I'd say to people trying to discredit bitcoin because of the above, 'lets ban fiat because people use it to buy weapons & drugs'.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
I just can't get my head around it, as long as guns & drugs exist people will buy them with any store of value they have available to them.
Bitcoin is used to buy weapons & drugs?
What % of weapon trading & the worldwide drug market is bitcoin involved in?
I don't have facts & figures but the answer will be absolutely minimal.
I'd say to people trying to discredit bitcoin because of the above, 'lets ban fiat because people use it to buy weapons & drugs'.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
I just can't get my head around it, as long as guns & drugs exist people will buy them with any store of value they have available to them.
I still don't get it, why do most of the people in the world believe that bitcoin is more evil compared to its fiat counterpart when in fact, illegal tradings and activity are heavily present in fiat compared to bitcoin. Funny how they throw stones in a thing that could help them and they look blindly upon a thing that's been enslaving them for almost a long time now. When will people realize the difference between the two?
It is normal for us to say bitcoin is a good thing, because we know & use it. This thing it is for everything, If you do not know a thing then you are worried by it... for example : religions, culture, politics, etc.. (everything in this life) that makes you to think a thing is a 'bad' thing, it is a normal "thought' (and these news don't really help to go mainstream).
May 17, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
I still don't get it, why do most of the people in the world believe that bitcoin is more evil compared to its fiat counterpart when in fact, illegal tradings and activity are heavily present in fiat compared to bitcoin. Funny how they throw stones in a thing that could help them and they look blindly upon a thing that's been enslaving them for almost a long time now. When will people realize the difference between the two?
May 17, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
It makes me laugh when people say bitcoin is a bad thing because of stories like this.
Bitcoin is used to buy weapons & drugs?
What % of weapon trading & the worldwide drug market is bitcoin involved in?
I don't have facts & figures but the answer will be absolutely minimal.
I'd say to people trying to discredit bitcoin because of the above, 'lets ban fiat because people use it to buy weapons & drugs'.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
I just can't get my head around it, as long as guns & drugs exist people will buy them with any store of value they have available to them.
Bitcoin is used to buy weapons & drugs?
What % of weapon trading & the worldwide drug market is bitcoin involved in?
I don't have facts & figures but the answer will be absolutely minimal.
I'd say to people trying to discredit bitcoin because of the above, 'lets ban fiat because people use it to buy weapons & drugs'.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
I just can't get my head around it, as long as guns & drugs exist people will buy them with any store of value they have available to them.
May 17, 2015, 09:32:07 AM
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This is not about making bitcoin mainstream but using bitcoin as a bad thing. People who are blind about bitcoin will now think that bitcoin is currency for criminal thing. The reason people like to use bitcoin is that it is easier and no question ask when you are doing large value transaction. In my country if you are making transaction which is large enough there will be a lot of question to be ask on what will the money use for
Exactly, but a lot of people are still associating bitcoin only to bad or better illegal things (as drug, trade of weapons, etc). So yes, it is a problem for bitcoin but the problem is not BTC itselft but always the people.This is not about making bitcoin mainstream but using bitcoin as a bad thing. People who are blind about bitcoin will now think that bitcoin is currency for criminal thing. The reason people like to use bitcoin is that it is easier and no question ask when you are doing large value transaction. In my country if you are making transaction which is large enough there will be a lot of question to be ask on what will the money use for
Like when computer is a new thing for the world and some bad guy use computer to hack the system, It was then considered that computer is a bad thing . This is happening as well for bitcoin right now
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I think there are some people that are still thinking this thing so it is normal, maybe we should only wait and continue to spread 'bitcoin' to our friends and relatives (and one day the mentality will change).
May 17, 2015, 06:07:45 AM
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This is not about making bitcoin mainstream but using bitcoin as a bad thing. People who are blind about bitcoin will now think that bitcoin is currency for criminal thing. The reason people like to use bitcoin is that it is easier and no question ask when you are doing large value transaction. In my country if you are making transaction which is large enough there will be a lot of question to be ask on what will the money use for
Exactly, but a lot of people are still associating bitcoin only to bad or better illegal things (as drug, trade of weapons, etc). So yes, it is a problem for bitcoin but the problem is not BTC itselft but always the people.This is not about making bitcoin mainstream but using bitcoin as a bad thing. People who are blind about bitcoin will now think that bitcoin is currency for criminal thing. The reason people like to use bitcoin is that it is easier and no question ask when you are doing large value transaction. In my country if you are making transaction which is large enough there will be a lot of question to be ask on what will the money use for
Like when computer is a new thing for the world and some bad guy use computer to hack the system, It was then considered that computer is a bad thing . This is happening as well for bitcoin right now
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For hundreds of years FIAT dominated these markets and that did not stop people using FIAT in mainstream. So, why on earth, the use of bitcoin in these businesses hinder bitcoin's mainstream growth ? Rather, I think, because of bitcoin's use law enforcement are getting trails of these businesses.
For hundreds of years FIAT dominated these markets and that did not stop people using FIAT in mainstream. So, why on earth, the use of bitcoin in these businesses hinder bitcoin's mainstream growth ? Rather, I think, because of bitcoin's use law enforcement are getting trails of these businesses.
Because people will think that bitcoin is a currency for criminal and people who dont have knowledge about it will now avoid in using it that is why it will hinder bitcoin's mainstream growth
May 17, 2015, 05:49:10 AM
I'm not surprised at all. Eventually almost everyone gets caught (I said almost). They definitely aren't doing enough to keep themselves safe.
Actually the only problem here is that they are getting caught, else it would be helping Bitcoin go mainstream.
I hope bitcoin will go mainstream, but I think BTC have not been made to go "mainstream" but to be a valid alternative and can maybe coexist with the actual economic system.Actually the only problem here is that they are getting caught, else it would be helping Bitcoin go mainstream.
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This is not about making bitcoin mainstream but using bitcoin as a bad thing. People who are blind about bitcoin will now think that bitcoin is currency for criminal thing. The reason people like to use bitcoin is that it is easier and no question ask when you are doing large value transaction. In my country if you are making transaction which is large enough there will be a lot of question to be ask on what will the money use for
Exactly, but a lot of people are still associating bitcoin only to bad or better illegal things (as drug, trade of weapons, etc). So yes, it is a problem for bitcoin but the problem is not BTC itselft but always the people.This is not about making bitcoin mainstream but using bitcoin as a bad thing. People who are blind about bitcoin will now think that bitcoin is currency for criminal thing. The reason people like to use bitcoin is that it is easier and no question ask when you are doing large value transaction. In my country if you are making transaction which is large enough there will be a lot of question to be ask on what will the money use for
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For hundreds of years FIAT dominated these markets and that did not stop people using FIAT in mainstream. So, why on earth, the use of bitcoin in these businesses hinder bitcoin's mainstream growth ? Rather, I think, because of bitcoin's use law enforcement are getting trails of these businesses.
I do not know what should I reply but read above... For hundreds of years FIAT dominated these markets and that did not stop people using FIAT in mainstream. So, why on earth, the use of bitcoin in these businesses hinder bitcoin's mainstream growth ? Rather, I think, because of bitcoin's use law enforcement are getting trails of these businesses.
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