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Quote from: probitcrypto on October 25, 2017, 04:11:27 PM

This question have its answer itself,
everyone who holds bitcoins and want to buy illigal things buys with bitcoin.
Reason is simple no one can trace you.
I once tried to buy in dark web but actually i was ripped over there.
So yeah think before you buy almost 99% asre sacms

That's simply not true, though. You think you're totally safe from the cops when you use bitcoin? That's a big LOL.

Hell no, I've never bought anything on the dark web. I've never even used or seen what's there. I'm aware that TOR exists, but that's the extent of my knowledge of such things. Been down the drug use route before and have no plans for that again, or anything else that's illegal. Bitcoin makes buying illegal things quicker, but I don't think it makes it any safer for the buyer. You'd be much better off paying with cold, hard cash. That's probably not possible on the internet, but you know what I'm saying. Cash is way more anonymous than bitcoin. The police would be able to trace you somehow, believe me. Plus if you got the postal service involved, yeah.

Bitcoin gets an undeserved bad rap because of the dark marketeering, and it's unfortunate, but everyone in real life that I've mentioned bitcoin to, and got a response that they knew about it, it's always been connected in their minds to Silk Road or buying drugs in some manner. It's too bad.

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Quote from: rjefferson on October 27, 2017, 06:26:34 PM

Why would anyone want to admit on this platform that they do illegal things? Cheesy

Regardless currency will always touch illegal substances/activity. There's probably a blockchain out there about to come out to prevent that anyways

exactamundo. value is require to purchase substances, illegal or not. doesnt matter if you are buying cotton candy or heroin. bitcoin is a store a value; a profitable one, but nothing more than that. so its unfair to conflate all illicit fundage with bitcoin. there is a shitton more fiat than there is btc, the entire crypto capitalization for that matter.

bitcoin is convenient. try to move more than 5k usd at a time from a bank. you will fill out form, they will ask you questions. and they will report to the government. if all that doesnt appeal to you, then bitcoin!

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Why would anyone want to admit on this platform that they do illegal things? Cheesy

Regardless currency will always touch illegal substances/activity. There's probably a blockchain out there about to come out to prevent that anyways

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This is such a funny question.

I personally don't buy anything illegal with bitcoin or fiat. But any currency will be used for evil. There's really no way to control that

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

i think, the most important thing is 'what is your intention'. if your intention is to buy illegal things then no one can prevent you from doing it [if you use money or crypto like btc whatever] so the question is not about the currency, it is all about your intention.

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

I think most of the people use this digital currency to buy illegal stuff and to launder there money. Recently the hackers who hacked the Game of Thrones episodes demanded the ransom in bitcoins as it is not traceable.

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Looks like Monero has became most used crypto for buying on dark web, anonimity is more important than with bitcoin.

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Bitcoin may be used for money laundering, that's why exchange platforms have placed in an AML and KYC system in their business model. Same with fiat money, you can always use it for illegal ways if done underground.

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For me I use bitcoin for buy legal stuffs. I'm not interest to purchase any illegals stuffs.
Usually I buy stuffs for my family and friends and bitcoin really answer my need all this time.

Because of bitcoin, I have another chance to purchase something that I can't buy before

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Quote from: migolmigol on October 27, 2017, 06:58:34 AM

The main dark of Bitcoin is by using it into illegal transactions. Bitcoin is not evil. The idea of Bitcoin is simply to transact freely that no one can track. And the currency itself is not regulated by the government. But because of this, some people took this as advantage to have safe transactions into illegal services like drugs or prostitutes etc.

Bitcoin would really be used on these kind of transactions because this is the perfect thing not to be traced by the government or any other people who do chase criminality.Bitcoin do have the perfect solution and this is why its famous regarding on its negative effects and usage too. It isnt bad at all since bitcoin is just being used but still other people do really make generalization to be consider as a bad thing.

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

First, I dont want to because it is against my principles in life but to be on that situation is something we can’t predict, we can’t be sure or even we don’t like it.

Second, most transaction with paper money/fiat isn’t much more untraceable because of no documentation, not like Blockchain. Most corrupt officials does it “bagman” thing. I hope most of us understand that.

This is not about what illegal used of bitcoin that others painted it to be but because they are insecure to what bitcoin has become.

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The main dark of Bitcoin is by using it into illegal transactions. Bitcoin is not evil. The idea of Bitcoin is simply to transact freely that no one can track. And the currency itself is not regulated by the government. But because of this, some people took this as advantage to have safe transactions into illegal services like drugs or prostitutes etc.

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

If you use bitcoin in illegal activities by using it to buy illegal things then you will caught up by the authorities you will just give your nation a chance to think twice about the legality of the bitcoin or to recall its adoptation and provide a very strict regulations resulting to decrease the freedom you have enjoyed of using the digital currency. Although the fiat was already use in illegal means but at least the government can see a good difference.

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Well, i have never bought anything illegal, not with bitcoin nor with fiat.
I actually don't have much knowledge about this, but people say that Bitcoin is traceable too. So it doesn't really make a difference if you buy something illegal with Bitcoin or any other currency as you are gong to be tracked down if that is how it is supposed to be. Maybe it is a more anonymous buying it with Bitcoin, but if people think they are totally anonymous using Bitcoin for something illegal, i think they are completely wrong.

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Bitcoin may be used by malicious people, but this does not make Bitcoin worse. Bitcoin international and wordwide.

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

You can use bitcoin to buy illegal stuffs if you want to do so and in fact bitcoin has been famous before because of the buying and selling of drugs and the FBI was able to caught the culprit behind it. As for me, I don't intend to use bitcoin the illegal way because I just want to earn to supplement my income and lucky for me that I was able to find an online income which can be done anytime so that I can do it after my day job. For the payment option, I use fiat instead of bitcoin because almost all my needs are only payable through fiat like groceries and since bitcoin is not yet that famous, for those people that I owe, I pay them fiat because they don't know about bitcoin.

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Quote from: leonair on October 25, 2017, 09:30:07 PM

Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

You can buy legal and illegal stuff with your own paper moneys/Fiat moneys and it is the same with Bitcoin as it is not an exemption to the rule of money, as long as you can spend valuable things in exchange of other things whether it is good or bad. It is just a matter of who will gonna use the money though and we all know the saying 'Money is the root of all evil' so meaning it is evil but if you use it in a good way then it is not. It just happened that Bitcoin is an international digital currency but it is still 'Money'.

Just like how money may be used to buy legal and illegal things, the same goes with bitcoin.

I believe that it would all boil down on the morality of a person. To answer your question, I haven't bought anything illegal with the use of bitcoin however it is very possible to be done by others. Bitcoin and money are simply the means to an end - and it may be an illegal or legal end. This does not necessarily mean that money or bitcoin is illegal or evil as well. For me, I think that both may be used to buy legal things however fiat money is accepted more globally.

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

No. I haven't used my bitcoin to buy illegal stuff. But it can be used in the dark web or deep web to purchase illegal thing like drug. But if you haven't heard before, the authorities took down 2 dark web market, Alpha Bay and Hansa already. So it is already discourage to used those illegal dark web markets to buy illegal stuff.

Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

I don't understand you question, but if you are asking if bitcoin can be used to buy legal thing then the answer is Yes. Although it is not yet accepted as global payment, but there are few pharma that accepts bitcoin. You search the forum I remember their was one who have been deliver legal drugs. Of course since bitcoin has not yet widely accepted, it is better to used Paypal or Payeer or COD on the market. But once bitcoin is accepted, then you can used it freely to but legal things online.

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I buy Bitcoin using legal means and I only use Bitcoin for investment purposes. People or states can use Bitcoin to do dark things, but I do not believe that Bitcoin is completely anonymous and completely untraceable. In addition, those who want to do dark jobs can use any existing money and payment channel, digital money is not the only way to pay for dark jobs.

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Quote from: Forts1946 on October 25, 2017, 04:08:09 PM

1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

i am not using bitcoin to buy illegal stuff because i don't want to risk my life to the something that i don't know. i think if the seller using bitcoin, you can use bitcoin too for the payment but if you want to buy in store online like amazon, ebay and something like that, then i suggest you to use paypal because paypal have a good security and paypal care with their customer. i don't have any experience using payeer, so i don't know how the works but i think its the same like paypal. if necessary, you can use cash to transfer your money to the third party service like escrow agents that will hold your money until you have the stuff then you make a report to that agents that you receive the stuff.

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