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legendary
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December 22, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
#27
I have nothing of value to contribute to this conversation  Smiley

True, and now you're ignored.
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
#26
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



 

How many people have you talked to in person that found the same appeal in the name as you? How many merchants have your brought on to accept Darkcoin as is? You preach that it's well known, but you're losing focus on how large a market there is out there. Just because it has recognition in crypto realms doesn't mean it has any recognition for mass adoption. Simply put, I'd wager there will be significant hurdles in finding venture capital willing to invest in the coin as is. I'd wager trying to sell the technology and brand as is to Joe Smith down the street is going to be an uphill battle, one that very well could be achievable but most definitely difficult.

I like the Darkcoin name, but Mary down the street thinks it's all about illegal activities and nefarious acts. There is nothing inherently illegal about maintaining privacy, but privacy is just one aspect of the coin now--InstantX when completed will be the other side of the coin.

All i see in here is a couple of people who are really really trying to press this matter no matter what (and its pretty much the same people on BCT, Darkcointalk and now this seperate BTC talk topic). The reason i voted in the first place is to not let my vote get lost, tbh i find the whole voting nonsense right now.
 
Furthermore putting this topic up in the altcoin section will probly end up doing more damage as it sends out an wrong signal to everyone in the altcoin community, that the Darkcoin community is deeply devided about this while we are most certainly not. Great marketing strategy guys.. well done.
We should have kept this internal, on our own forums.

   
       




It doesn't matter where we have this discussion, it is the internet, anyone can find it no matter where it is held. I welcome the opinions of outsiders, who have a totally different perspective from us.

I hope that any future branding talk will be kept here, and off the main thread.

This has gone on for too long. My stance is pro-name change, but I respect the valued opinions of my fellow Darkcoiners, and will support whatever decision is made.

Discussion, and the ideas that come from them, don't need to be hidden.

This does not need to be fought out in the altcoin section either, it was never necessary before so why start it now ? This is degrading Darkcoin and the community
it stands for. And by the way this is not a discussion, this is a select group of people rejecting everything thats being said about keeping the name Darkcoin, there is a difference.

I'm done with this topic and i'm deeply displeased with how you handled this Tao ! Good luck with those opinions of the outsiders ..

     



 
I reiterate, this is just a discussion, and a place to have opinions displayed that don't have to clutter the main thread.
Like I said before, I respect everyone's opinion, even ones that differ from mine.

If we decide to keep the name Darkcoin, I will still work as tirelessly as before, because I strongly believe in the tech!
Thanks again to everyone for their opinions here.
sr. member
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December 22, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
#25
We should stick to our bag holding roots  Smiley
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
#24
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



 

How many people have you talked to in person that found the same appeal in the name as you? How many merchants have your brought on to accept Darkcoin as is? You preach that it's well known, but you're losing focus on how large a market there is out there. Just because it has recognition in crypto realms doesn't mean it has any recognition for mass adoption. Simply put, I'd wager there will be significant hurdles in finding venture capital willing to invest in the coin as is. I'd wager trying to sell the technology and brand as is to Joe Smith down the street is going to be an uphill battle, one that very well could be achievable but most definitely difficult.

I like the Darkcoin name, but Mary down the street thinks it's all about illegal activities and nefarious acts. There is nothing inherently illegal about maintaining privacy, but privacy is just one aspect of the coin now--InstantX when completed will be the other side of the coin.

All i see in here is a couple of people who are really really trying to press this matter no matter what (and its pretty much the same people on BCT, Darkcointalk and now this seperate BTC talk topic). The reason i voted in the first place is to not let my vote get lost, tbh i find the whole voting nonsense right now.
 
Furthermore putting this topic up in the altcoin section will probly end up doing more damage as it sends out an wrong signal to everyone in the altcoin community, that the Darkcoin community is deeply devided about this while we are most certainly not. Great marketing strategy guys.. well done.
We should have kept this internal, on our own forums.

   
       




It doesn't matter where we have this discussion, it is the internet, anyone can find it no matter where it is held. I welcome the opinions of outsiders, who have a totally different perspective from us.

I hope that any future branding talk will be kept here, and off the main thread.

This has gone on for too long. My stance is pro-name change, but I respect the valued opinions of my fellow Darkcoiners, and will support whatever decision is made.

Discussion, and the ideas that come from them, don't need to be hidden.

This does not need to be fought out in the altcoin section either, it was never necessary before so why start it now ? This is degrading Darkcoin and the community
it stands for. And by the way this is not a discussion, this is a select group of people rejecting everything thats being said about keeping the name Darkcoin, there is a difference.

I'm done with this topic and i'm deeply displeased with how you handled this Tao ! Good luck with those opinions of the outsiders ..

     



 
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 07:07:28 PM
#23
It's not so much about "sticking to our roots" Tao, it's about the name's ability to instantly (InstantXly?) define that Darkcoin addresses the entire realm of ever increasing  government and big business incursion into the financial transactions of everyone. Its name is an immediate differentiator to Bitcoin and sets it apart from virtually everything else. While many people are very worried about the name's almost total (in perception) connection to the world of nefarious human activity, that's one way of defining the word "dark" and doesn't mean it will always be seen this way. The name carries connotations that are both positive and negative.

I've voted to keep it as Darkcoin; I don't think it could have a better name that ruffles feathers so much and gives it such an edge. There just isn't another name that comes close to cutting  through rhetoric and making it clear as to exactly what it achieves. So many businesses won't touch it, but many others will and as attitudes to the "I'm from the government. I'm here to help" assurance start to wane towards the realisation this is often a facade, there'll be greater widespread understanding as to what anonymity is really all about and the lights will start to come on in people's thinking.

Darkcoin; forever Dark!

Agreed, "Dark" is marketing nirvana, it provides a blank canvass for people to see what they want to see when they think of the brand.
You don't think there's more potential in a name that doesn't alienate large swaths of people?
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 07:04:34 PM
#22
No I'm not trying, I've compared them.
Go ahead change the name and see what happens.

Might as well compare apples to oranges then. No one is saying a name change will happen, but it's worth discussing as adults vs just blindly following the herd.
Why wouldn't one compare apples with oranges? Unless oranges are a vegetable for you.  Smiley
Wasting time discussing a possible, yet useless name change isn't helping. Either learn how to code or contribute via some other way. That would benefit the coin more than changing its name.
Perhaps you've heard of TAO's MASTERNODE SETUP GUIDE FOR DUMMIES? DARKCOIN WORLDWIDE? The DARKCOIN CHAMELEON with over 1,100 followers? I'm doing plenty for Darkcoin, yet I STILL favour a name change...
Don't belittle other's opinions this way...
sr. member
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www.dashpay.io
December 22, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
#21
It's not so much about "sticking to our roots" Tao, it's about the name's ability to instantly (InstantXly?) define that Darkcoin addresses the entire realm of ever increasing  government and big business incursion into the financial transactions of everyone. Its name is an immediate differentiator to Bitcoin and sets it apart from virtually everything else. While many people are very worried about the name's almost total (in perception) connection to the world of nefarious human activity, that's one way of defining the word "dark" and doesn't mean it will always be seen this way. The name carries connotations that are both positive and negative.

I've voted to keep it as Darkcoin; I don't think it could have a better name that ruffles feathers so much and gives it such an edge. There just isn't another name that comes close to cutting  through rhetoric and making it clear as to exactly what it achieves. So many businesses won't touch it, but many others will and as attitudes to the "I'm from the government. I'm here to help" assurance start to wane towards the realisation this is often a facade, there'll be greater widespread understanding as to what anonymity is really all about and the lights will start to come on in people's thinking.

Darkcoin; forever Dark!

Agreed, "Dark" is marketing nirvana, it provides a blank canvass for people to see what they want to see when they think of the brand...

legendary
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December 22, 2014, 06:44:21 PM
#20
No I'm not trying, I've compared them.
Go ahead change the name and see what happens.

Might as well compare apples to oranges then. No one is saying a name change will happen, but it's worth discussing as adults vs just blindly following the herd.
Why wouldn't one compare apples with oranges? Unless oranges are a vegetable for you.  Smiley
Wasting time discussing a possible, yet useless name change isn't helping. Either learn how to code or contribute via some other way. That would benefit the coin more than changing its name.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1014
Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
December 22, 2014, 06:06:57 PM
#19
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



 

How many people have you talked to in person that found the same appeal in the name as you? How many merchants have your brought on to accept Darkcoin as is? You preach that it's well known, but you're losing focus on how large a market there is out there. Just because it has recognition in crypto realms doesn't mean it has any recognition for mass adoption. Simply put, I'd wager there will be significant hurdles in finding venture capital willing to invest in the coin as is. I'd wager trying to sell the technology and brand as is to Joe Smith down the street is going to be an uphill battle, one that very well could be achievable but most definitely difficult.

I like the Darkcoin name, but Mary down the street thinks it's all about illegal activities and nefarious acts. There is nothing inherently illegal about maintaining privacy, but privacy is just one aspect of the coin now--InstantX when completed will be the other side of the coin.

All i see in here is a couple of people who are really really trying to press this matter no matter what (and its pretty much the same people on BCT, Darkcointalk and now this seperate BTC talk topic). The reason i voted in the first place is to not let my vote get lost, tbh i find the whole voting nonsense right now.
 
Furthermore putting this topic up in the altcoin section will probly end up doing more damage as it sends out an wrong signal to everyone in the altcoin community, that the Darkcoin community is deeply devided about this while we are most certainly not. Great marketing strategy guys.. well done.
We should have kept this internal, on our own forums.

   
       




It doesn't matter where we have this discussion, it is the internet, anyone can find it no matter where it is held. I welcome the opinions of outsiders, who have a totally different perspective from us.

I hope that any future branding talk will be kept here, and off the main thread.

This has gone on for too long. My stance is pro-name change, but I respect the valued opinions of my fellow Darkcoiners, and will support whatever decision is made.

Discussion, and the ideas that come from them, don't need to be hidden.
legendary
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Merit: 1018
December 22, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
#18
There is no need to go into this deeply. The matter is yet simple and complicated at the same time.
Here is an example: if Bitcoin was to be renamed this second to xxxcoin, it would be way to damaging for the coin and it would eventually die instead of progress.
You have your answer. Darkcoin was pretty well known over the course of the year.

You're seriously trying to compare changing the name of something that has been established since 2008-2009 to something that is almost a year old. Further, Bitcoin having far more exposure, invested infrastructure and branding behind it? Please tell me this is not the basis of your argument... that's just silly. It would be far easier and productive trying to change the name now in Darkcoin than trying to change it years down the road.
No I'm not trying, I've compared them.
Go ahead change the name and see what happens.

Might as well compare apples to oranges then. No one is saying a name change will happen, but it's worth discussing as adults vs just blindly following the herd.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1018
December 22, 2014, 05:52:02 PM
#17
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



  

How many people have you talked to in person that found the same appeal in the name as you? How many merchants have your brought on to accept Darkcoin as is? You preach that it's well known, but you're losing focus on how large a market there is out there. Just because it has recognition in crypto realms doesn't mean it has any recognition for mass adoption. Simply put, I'd wager there will be significant hurdles in finding venture capital willing to invest in the coin as is. I'd wager trying to sell the technology and brand as is to Joe Smith down the street is going to be an uphill battle, one that very well could be achievable but most definitely difficult.

I like the Darkcoin name, but Mary down the street thinks it's all about illegal activities and nefarious acts. There is nothing inherently illegal about maintaining privacy, but privacy is just one aspect of the coin now--InstantX when completed will be the other side of the coin.

All i see in here is a couple of people who are really really trying to press this matter no matter what (and its pretty much the same people on BCT, Darkcointalk and now this seperate BTC talk topic). The reason i voted in the first place is to not let my vote get lost, tbh i find the whole voting nonsense right now.
 
Furthermore putting this topic up in the altcoin section will probly end up doing more damage as it sends out an wrong signal to everyone in the altcoin community, that the Darkcoin community is deeply devided about this while we are most certainly not. Great marketing strategy guys.. well done.
We should have kept this internal, on our own forums.

    
      

I'll be the first to admit, every other name change suggestion till now (and it seems to happen every couple of months) I have been against, but with recent developments of InstantX, it seems now there is much more potential in usage than just those focusing on privacy. I think it's worth at least discussing. There is a very real possibility that nothing comes about, but at least it is discussed from those at have vested interests in the coin itself and to those that MIGHT be future users down the road. Having an educational discussion about pros and cons is good for the coin. Anyone that thinks having these sorts of things will negatively impact the coin only further proves that the community and market as is, is too small and impressionable.
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 05:50:05 PM
#16
There is no need to go into this deeply. The matter is yet simple and complicated at the same time.
Here is an example: if Bitcoin was to be renamed this second to xxxcoin, it would be way to damaging for the coin and it would eventually die instead of progress.
You have your answer. Darkcoin was pretty well known over the course of the year.

You're seriously trying to compare changing the name of something that has been established since 2008-2009 to something that is almost a year old. Further, Bitcoin having far more exposure, invested infrastructure and branding behind it? Please tell me this is not the basis of your argument... that's just silly. It would be far easier and productive trying to change the name now in Darkcoin than trying to change it years down the road.
No I'm not trying, I've compared them.
Go ahead change the name and see what happens.
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 05:48:25 PM
#15
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



 

How many people have you talked to in person that found the same appeal in the name as you? How many merchants have your brought on to accept Darkcoin as is? You preach that it's well known, but you're losing focus on how large a market there is out there. Just because it has recognition in crypto realms doesn't mean it has any recognition for mass adoption. Simply put, I'd wager there will be significant hurdles in finding venture capital willing to invest in the coin as is. I'd wager trying to sell the technology and brand as is to Joe Smith down the street is going to be an uphill battle, one that very well could be achievable but most definitely difficult.

I like the Darkcoin name, but Mary down the street thinks it's all about illegal activities and nefarious acts. There is nothing inherently illegal about maintaining privacy, but privacy is just one aspect of the coin now--InstantX when completed will be the other side of the coin.

All i see in here is a couple of people who are really really trying to press this matter no matter what (and its pretty much the same people on BCT, Darkcointalk and now this seperate BTC talk topic). The reason i voted in the first place is to not let my vote get lost, tbh i find the whole voting nonsense right now.
 
Furthermore putting this topic up in the altcoin section will probly end up doing more damage as it sends out an wrong signal to everyone in the altcoin community, that the Darkcoin community is deeply devided about this while we are most certainly not. Great marketing strategy guys.. well done.
We should have kept this internal, on our own forums.

   
       



legendary
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December 22, 2014, 05:25:06 PM
#14
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



  

How many people have you talked to in person that found the same appeal in the name as you? How many merchants have you brought on to accept Darkcoin as is? You preach that it's well known, but you're losing focus on how large a market there is out there. Just because it has recognition in crypto realms doesn't mean it has any recognition for mass adoption. Simply put, I'd wager there will be significant hurdles in finding venture capital willing to invest in the coin as is. I'd wager trying to sell the technology and brand as is to Joe Smith down the street is going to be an uphill battle, one that very well could be achievable but most definitely difficult.

I like the Darkcoin name, but Mary down the street thinks it's all about illegal activities and nefarious acts. There is nothing inherently illegal about maintaining privacy, but privacy is just one aspect of the coin now--InstantX when completed will be the other side of the coin.
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 05:20:00 PM
#13
voted for keeping the name darkcoin and seriously hope this will put an end to this discussion once and for all
as this is dragging on way too long.

Reason why i voted for keeping the name is simple, its well-known by now with its current name Darkcoin and
i dont see any problem using this name for now and for in the future. Also it fits with the already developed
technologies like Dark Gravity Wave and Darksend.

The name Darkcoin is already a powerfull branding name on itself, lets not try to fix what dont need fixing.



  
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 05:17:21 PM
#12
if darkcoin changes name, can i make a coin called dark coin?   Huh

Potentially yes (depending on the resources of the Darkcoin Foundation to try and restrict someone back-filling the hole left). And that is another reason why there's considerable risk associated with changing the name.

It's difficult because unlike phone numbers and stock trading symbols, there is no limitation to (example, 6 months) how long a name or symbol is locked up to prevent someone else from using it. The rebranding would need to be immensely thought out from securing domain names, filing appropriate paperwork for the foundation on name change, and keeping exchanges and pools in the loop in order to make it successful. It's not impossible and it will take some effort but it all depends on if this effort is worth it from a pros/cons standpoint. Again, something the foundation and team need to discuss. There is no discounting the fact that Darkcoin as a name and brand has established itself in short order in the crypto world, but that's just one small market in global commerce with tens of thousands of brands. It's shortsighted to exclusively focus on crypto as a marketplace. But if you think small, you'll be small.
hero member
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December 22, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
#11
if darkcoin changes name, can i make a coin called dark coin?   Huh

Potentially yes (depending on the resources of the Darkcoin Foundation to try and restrict someone back-filling the hole left). And that is another reason why there's considerable risk associated with changing the name.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1018
December 22, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
#10
There is no need to go into this deeply. The matter is yet simple and complicated at the same time.
Here is an example: if Bitcoin was to be renamed this second to xxxcoin, it would be way to damaging for the coin and it would eventually die instead of progress.
You have your answer. Darkcoin was pretty well known over the course of the year.

You're seriously trying to compare changing the name of something that has been established since 2008-2009 to something that is almost a year old. Further, Bitcoin having far more exposure, invested infrastructure and branding behind it? Please tell me this is not the basis of your argument... that's just silly. It would be far easier and productive trying to change the name now in Darkcoin than trying to change it years down the road.
full member
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December 22, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
#9
if darkcoin changes name, can i make a coin called dark coin?   Huh
legendary
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Terminated.
December 22, 2014, 04:58:01 PM
#8
There is no need to go into this deeply. The matter is yet simple and complicated at the same time.
Here is an example: if Bitcoin was to be renamed this second to xxxcoin, it would be way to damaging for the coin and it would eventually die instead of progress.
You have your answer. Darkcoin was pretty well known over the course of the year.
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